Skip to comments.Question for the day.
Posted on 03/15/2011 7:29:33 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
What does anyone/everyone think was the genesis of the "Decline" of the Republic in the Americas known as the "United States"?
I’d say it was when the Bill of Rights was included as mere amendments instead of immutable laws.
I blame it on Elvis.
The Civil War permanently inverted the relationship between the central government and the states.... and from then on, people considered that to be the normal way of things.
Losing the Vietnam war and letting the Commies control our schools. If we would have won the War, then the commies at the time would have been fully discredited, but they weren’t and were allowed to infiltrate our institutions, the Education establishment being the most crucial!
I don’t think it’s in decline. It’s just natural progression. Nothing stays the same forever.
The Illinois Butcher destroyed the republic.
Any document, any constitution, any form of government can ultimately be corrupted by it’s citizens.
I blame the 1960s. The parents of those kids indulged them, allowed them to become me first. Allowed them to trample the flag and ignore any sort of patriotism. Allowed a whole generation of American youth to openly embrace communism. This generation of American youth was taught it was ok to break the rules and do your own thing.
As those malformed young adults aged, they got their hands on the levers of power. How can you possibly expect such a useless bunch to actually respect what came before them, or revere the constitution?
The social unrest of the 1960s and the aftermath got us to this point.
Yes, egghead atheists which naturally evolved into Communism.
The Western world had success because of Judeo-Christian values. You take that away and the society will always crumble into thuggery.
I’m actually pretty optimistic. Obama has done more for the conservative cause than anyone since Reagen. People are starting to see the mess that has been created with our politically correct, free spending society and there seems to be a return to more conservative days.
Unfortunately, I think that it may be too little, too late.
Ok, I’ll bite.
One of my favorite quotes of T. Austin-Sparks is: “Origin determines destiny.”
Perhaps the seeds of our nation’s fall are in its foundation: “the pursuit of happiness.”
Many of our earliest colonists came here because of their pursuit of God.
The pursuit of happiness is empty and vain at best, as happiness is not a goal, but a result. When it is a goal that is pursued, it always results in the opposite: misery.
Happiness is the result of a man or woman being at peace with God, himself, and others, and having a sense of self-worth from being a productive giver in this life.
Something to ponder.
Scumbag Dhims more than anything else.
When the communists began to infiltrate our government.
They figured out how to subvert and weaken from within. Contributing factors:
Woodrow Wilson and his ivy league, elitist world view
The creation of the federal reserve
The 17th amendment
Control of the media
Judicial activism i.e, ban on school prayer, abortion
The birth control pill (we then got the sexual revolution and subsequently, AIDS, herpes, gonorrhea, genital warts, et al)
Destruction of the family structure through divorce, welfare, homosexuality, etc.
Weakening of the education system through teachers’ unions, the Dept of Education, affirmative action, etc
...to name a few
To 'Appetite Pleasin'
Woodrow Wilson tested the water, but it was FDR’s new deal and Social Security that really did US in.
I agree. When it peaked in the colleges and PC became the norm, soon spreading via the teacher’s unions to our entire public school system. Now people like van jones (ohbama’s recent green czar, oh puke) hold seminars to teach kids how to fight back against the police and gay groups teach children how to ‘fist’ with full approval of the sick teacher’s unions.
Whaaat? He was the greatest of our founders.
The American taxpayer was saddled with the socialist programs of the 1930s, combined with the burden of policing up the planet after WWII during the Cold War.
The commies controlled our schools way before that. I agree with the pister who said fdr.
I agree that that was a mistake.
Banning the 5 gallon flush toilet.
There’s this dog at the dog park I’ve come to find out is not named Bird (figured it was some breed used for bird hunting). I’m told the dog is named Burr, because he shot Hamilton. That makes a lot more sense.
Removal of God from the school systems.
Slavery was at the top of my list as well.
“The Civil War permanently inverted the relationship between the central government and the states.”
1. Surrender of Lee at Appomatox.
2. New Deal.
3. Great Society.
Pride. . . And MTV
Marbury v Madison case - the court arrogated to itself the power to decide political questions under the guise of law.
While the decision may have been necessary, it has become the only branch of government that can through out the acts of the other two branches of government.
This concept can and has been abused, and while the Court could be the last bastion of freedom, it may also now be used to destroy that freedom.
Otherwise, I believe the real turning point came when the banking system was created, since money rules all, and in the nation, only a few unregulated individuals rule the money. Don’t know when that was, but suspect in early part of the 20th century, possibly prior to WWI.
The civil war determined that states are not autonomous except in unimportant things, and that the Feds will find a way to force compliance on a nationwide basis. This was also a turning point.
the election of Woodrow Wilson, the passage of the 16th Amendment, and the dawn of the Progressive Era
Theodore Roosevelt(WHAT a FIRST CLASS A$$H*LE!) started the “Progressive Era”.
It allowed government to become a cancer feeding on the productivity of the people and turned us all into livestock on a tax farm.
What is the “Equal Credit Opportunity Act of 1974” please explain?
Someone already said it, and better than I would have because they listed precedents that led to it, but ‘The Great Society’. Its effects didn’t begin a general nationwide downward trend until the time of the Nixon administration which eventually resulted in his loss of office, despite Nixon’s best efforts.
The peak of American civilization was at the time of the Apollo program, as I see it. It’s not going to be easy but we can be great again. We might have to first think about who ‘we’ are though.
Lack of will, resolve, and spine. Period.
So true however we now call them congressmen and senators.
I’m certainly not the historian that you are but I think the collusion that was needed to start the United Nations was a big stepping stone. The Communists realized their mistakes from the League of Nations, corrected that and haven’t slowed down since.
The American adult generations between 1960 and 1980.
Ah... but they weren't.
Those rights were NOT granted by the Constitution or any government.
They were simply added in writing to explicitly remind the megalomaniacly bent.
That is has failed its purpose is a failure of language and will.
Same as all great civilizations.
We got fat and happy.