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Why Liberals Want Gun Shows Stopped
Human Events ^ | 03/15/2011 | Mike Piccione

Posted on 03/15/2011 9:27:27 AM PDT by neverdem

A fundamental principle of a free people is the ability to transfer property to someone else without government intervention. In the case of firearms, it is often a tradition to pass on a gun from one generation to another.

Recently a group called Mayors Against Illegal Guns co-chaired by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, commissioned a poll to determine how the public felt about tightening background checks on people that bought guns. It will come as little surprise that a group called Mayors Against Illegal Guns wants additional restrictive legislation on the already restrictive process and they even bought the research that indicates the public agrees.

The target of liberal legislators is the gun show. If you are a licensed gun dealer you hold a Federal Firearms License and are required by law to perform a background check before you can release the gun to the buyer. That makes good sense and often there is a waiting period. A waiting period makes good sense too unless you are someone being threatened or harassed and you happen to need a way to defend yourself. The attacker will be reassured that the government will deny you, the potential victim, an immediate opportunity to purchase a tool to defend yourself. When an attack is going to happen in seconds the police, if called, will respond in minutes to take the crime report.

Here is the controversial aspect of a gun show: the unlicensed seller. This is a person that wants to sell his personal property to another individual. It is the equivalent of you saying “Mike, you want to sell that .22?” And then me telling you I’ll take 50-bucks for it. We have a deal and I’m the unlicensed seller. But, I don’t need a license to sell you my .22. That is the “gun show loophole.”

Closing the “gun show loophole” enables the government to curtail person to person sales. That is what is really behind the attack on gun shows. Every gun would have to be turned into a gun dealer so that it could be tracked by the Federal Government and then the transfer process would be monitored by the Federal Government. The right you have now to sell your neighbor your shotgun will be gone, forever.

What is even more disturbing is the loss of the right to pass on your gun to a family member. The tradition of passing on grandpa’s gun to his grandson will be legislated out of existence. Gramps will have to pass the gun to a federally authorized entity that will then register it and pass it on to the recipient. Often the gifting of the first firearm is to someone thirteen or fourteen years old. Because they can not legally own a gun at that age it would have to be transferred to someone who would then hold the gun until it could be then transferred to the final owner when legal age is reached. That’s a lot of red tape to give someone your squirrel rifle.

Anti-gun liberals know that more bureaucracy on law abiding citizens is the easiest form of gun control and hidden under the label of ‘common sense gun measures.” If the government can make criminals out of people that have never committed a criminal act with administrative measures then people will avoid buying, owning and transferring guns altogether. Then they accomplish what they set out to do; stop legal citizens from owning guns.

New York City has some of the toughest gun laws in the United States but they have not eliminated crimes committed with guns. Why? Because going after gang members is dangerous, expensive and more often than not the criminal ends up back on the street. Mayors Against Illegal Guns should take a closer look at those that are committing the crimes and focus on punishing the perpetrators rather than building a bureaucracy that is targeted at legal gun owners.

I remember when I was a teenager walking down the street with an Ithaca Model 37 pump 12 gauge in the rural Adirondack mountain town where I grew up. I had purchased the gun from a friend and there wasn’t any paperwork, background check, state or federal government involved. A police car pulled up next to me and the officer asked “Are you coming or going? I get off in a few minutes and if you want to go hunting together hop in and I’ll give you a ride.” It turns out I was walking home and after I told that to the officer, he just said “Ok then, next time” and drove off. To me, that officer exercised common sense gun control. An anti-gun liberal would have had me, the gun seller and probably the officer up on federal charges and locked us up for a long time. It’s a pity that the left doesn’t understand the relationship between gun ownership and crime but it will be a tragedy if we let the Bloomberg lead coalition erode the gun rights of a free people.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloomberg; democrats; guncontrol; gunregistration; gunshowloophole; liberalfascism; liberals; maig; progressives; socialistdemocrats
Unless it's some weird or perverse sort, "liberals" hate liberty.
1 posted on 03/15/2011 9:27:31 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Leftists just want our lives stopped.


2 posted on 03/15/2011 9:30:57 AM PDT by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: neverdem

...not just guns, property, whatever—they want to control every facet of the spirit, minds, and bodies of others—but liberty for ME!


3 posted on 03/15/2011 9:32:03 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: neverdem
>"liberals" hate liberty.<

I'm sure all the freedoms that we still enjoy drive them crazy; can't wait to cut them all down.

4 posted on 03/15/2011 9:32:50 AM PDT by Jerrybob
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To: neverdem

It is always the urban muck politicians trying to control their urban muck subjects and inmates.


5 posted on 03/15/2011 9:36:22 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans - Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: neverdem

When I buy a second hand gun I get a hand written bill of sale.


6 posted on 03/15/2011 9:38:37 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Memphis and the Midsouth miss you, Bad Dog)
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To: neverdem
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
7 posted on 03/15/2011 9:39:34 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: neverdem

Think the lib politicians are concerned with citizens being shot ?

They are worried about their own skins !


8 posted on 03/15/2011 9:40:41 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Jerrybob

Liberal
Progressive
Democratic

...used for the same reasons that the “Bolshevik” party was named so, bolshevik meaning, “the majority”, although they were actually the minority.

Also, the name of any bill put forth in Congress in recent years will give you a clue as to what the bill will NOT do or is NOT for or will NOT promote.


9 posted on 03/15/2011 9:42:22 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Soothesayer

When are we going to get around to returning that favor?


10 posted on 03/15/2011 9:48:37 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: DTogo

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Well, there you go. It is as obvious as the nose on your face, and it is all about interpretation. You are assuming an individual right when this is all about “the People” and the militia, both cover lots of people, and those lots of people are not being prohibited from carrying weapons. The police, the Army the National guard, the armed services in general, the FBI etc etc. See, fits like a glove. /sarc


11 posted on 03/15/2011 9:52:53 AM PDT by wita
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Good article.

I recall events like he describes where police and other folks had no problem with the rifle you had slung over your shoulder. We brought rifles to school because we hunted before the day began. This was mid-1970s, folks... not that long ago.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

12 posted on 03/15/2011 9:55:58 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower
We brought rifles to school because

We had a rife team, and we all brought our rifles (those who had them - those who didn't used the school's remington 513T's) to school on practice and competition days. We had a rife range in the basement of the gym

13 posted on 03/15/2011 10:02:06 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Joe Brower
We brought rifles to school because we hunted before the day began. This was mid-1970s, folks... not that long ago.

I graduated HS in '74, and what was in my car on any given day in the HS parking lot, would be considered a large arsenal by todays bedwetting standards.

14 posted on 03/15/2011 10:03:21 AM PDT by digger48
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To: neverdem
Closing the “gun show loophole” enables the government to curtail person to person sales. That is what is really behind the attack on gun shows. Every gun would have to be turned into a gun dealer so that it could be tracked by the Federal Government and then the transfer process would be monitored by the Federal Government. The right you have now to sell your neighbor your shotgun will be gone, forever.

Plus, it's a liberty-oriented venue where liberty-minded people gather. Associating with your own kind keeps morale up, especially when people see that the MSM's been lying to them, and how many like them there are. (Too many, sometimes -- you can't wedge your way up to a table!) So, from a liberals point of view, nothing good can come of this, at least once O's brownshirts have cruised the parking lot and taken down all the tag numbers.

15 posted on 03/15/2011 10:07:59 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Joe Brower
We brought rifles to school because we hunted before the day began. This was mid-1970s, folks... not that long ago.

1978 Junior High School - I brought my rifle to school once per week for the gun club meeting. Nobody batted an eye.

To top it off, this was in Garden City, Long Island NEW YORK.

Now, forget about a gun club, if you even draw a picture of a gun in that school you'd likely be suspended.

16 posted on 03/15/2011 10:08:12 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: neverdem
The tradition of passing on grandpa’s gun to his grandson will be legislated out of existence. Gramps will have to pass the gun to a federally authorized entity that will then register it and pass it on to the recipient.

Initially, it would be no problem. If Gramps just gives Junior the gun anyway, there would be no way for them to prove he did so after the effective date of the law. The problem will come down the road when potential recipients are born after the law. Pretty hard to claim you gave someone a gun before he was born. I wonder if there would be any rules about what Junior would have to do if he FOUND a rifle just laying around.

17 posted on 03/15/2011 10:11:21 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: The Antiyuppie
In 1952 at the XIX Party Congress Stalin declared: "There are no more Mensheviks."

Of course not. They were exterminated by then, along with other peoples The Party had no plans for.

All those rights for the people to have arms gets in the way of state planning.

18 posted on 03/15/2011 10:20:28 AM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: neverdem

I know, perhaps private firearms could be transfered to the ATFE for smuggling into Mexico?

That would solve a couple of pesky little problems, and of course what Agency does not desire “plausible deniability”?


19 posted on 03/15/2011 10:22:20 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Still Thinking

I think any registered weapons you now have should be sold or traded for the same model, caliber and quality. That way none of the weapons you will posses will be in their files under your name.

I have not bought a registered weapon in over twenty years, I insist on private sales. I don’t keep track of who I buy or sell to and I’ve never had the cops knock on my door asking any questions about previously owned weapons. I will not participate in this registration game.


20 posted on 03/15/2011 10:28:26 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: wita

If we could ever safely do so, the Second Amendment needs to be cut in half so as to avoid ambiguity. In these times, it should just read “The Right of the People to keep and bear Arms shall NOT BE INFRINGED.” The emphasis should be written on paper as well, as a reminder to government.


21 posted on 03/15/2011 10:43:05 AM PDT by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: Joe Brower
We brought rifles to school because we hunted before the day began.

Same here. I use to bring my 22 to school in a backpack so I could hunt squirrels and rabbits after school.

22 posted on 03/15/2011 10:48:51 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: neverdem; All
Posted on another site:

Bear in mind that that this is yet ANOTHER “commonsense” Disarmament initiative designed to be the foundation for a Registration system.

Once they fooled enough people to once again go along with such a measure they will simply collect sales information in a database and Hello! Gun Registration database.

As soon as they’ve achieved this, all they need is another excuse to require people to register their guns that may not be in the database and confirm the information already in the database.

Meanwhile they will be subjecting people to yet another bureaucratic hoop to jump though for mere gun ownership in their ongoing quest to disarm the law-abiding.

In addition, never forget that if the government is granting you “Permission” to defend yourself, they can easily withdraw that permission and “Recall” your private property and have it melted down.

23 posted on 03/15/2011 11:03:01 AM PDT by GYL2 (Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson)
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To: Soothesayer
Leftists just want our lives stopped.

No, not stopped, just crushed under an infinitely heavy harness hooked up to whatever crackpot burden they dreamed up last night after seeing Michael Moore's latest dorkumentary, watching us crawl through life, thanking them for giving us such a light payload and demanding they place more weight on everyone else.

24 posted on 03/15/2011 11:05:12 AM PDT by Dr. Sheldon Cooper (If Mohammed were alive today, he wouldnÂ’t be allowed to live within 1000 yards of a school.)
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To: GYL2

Always remember that they have limited resources,
and there is absolutely NO WAY they could get all the guns and gunowners in the “first wave”.

The second wave will be met with a hail of bullets.


25 posted on 03/15/2011 11:07:37 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: The Antiyuppie
Progressive
Oppressive works better
26 posted on 03/15/2011 11:08:14 AM PDT by StaffiT (New Year, New Name)
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To: MrB

Which is why they like to employ the divide and conquer strategy – only go after a small segment of the population each time.

Consider that while most people think that confiscation is the ultimate goal of the gun grabbers their holly grail has to be Federal control over all transfers.

Because once they have achieved that, and they can get enough people to “register” to be on the list, they will have an emergency confiscation mechanism in place.

They can short circuit the whole process and go straight to Confiscation – that is why they never stop trying to push this issue.


27 posted on 03/15/2011 11:27:27 AM PDT by GYL2 (Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson)
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To: neverdem

28 posted on 03/15/2011 11:40:57 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: B4Ranch; All

You are exactly correct. Legal private sales are the safety valve that prevents licensing of gun dealer from becoming a national registration system. Here is a good essay explaining that registration equals confiscation:

GUN REGISTRATION IS GUN CONFISCATION (old but good):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608785/posts


29 posted on 03/15/2011 11:45:26 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain; All
Yes, As soon as Private sales are outlawed it’s only a matter of a few executive orders to have the system maintain sales data instead of it being erased.

Question: What’s to stop them from trying to make the Federal purview over private transactions retroactive?

Parenthetically, what’s to prevent the government from ordering that ALL previous transactions to be run through the NICS system?

IF they could get that sort of thing passed somehow, people would only have two choices: Either submit (in more ways than one) your old information, effectively registering your weapons that were previously off the radar screen.

OR, you automatically become a lawbreaker.

{Yes, I know I may have given the Marxists a new idea, but you can bet dollars to donuts they have thought of it themselves}

30 posted on 03/15/2011 12:50:29 PM PDT by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: neverdem

“Every gun would have to be turned into a gun dealer so that it could be tracked by the Federal Government and then the transfer process would be monitored by the Federal Government. The right you have now to sell your neighbor your shotgun will be gone, forever.”

I suspect the compliance rate with this, particularly here in Montana, would be rather low.


31 posted on 03/15/2011 1:09:34 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (The pendulum is swinging back.)
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To: Rennes Templar
“I suspect the compliance rate with this, particularly here in Montana, would be rather low.”

You are correct, but it would not matter much. The key is to make unregistered possession illegal. It makes transfer of the “gun culture” much more difficult and provides a lever to create lots of new “criminals” who can be forced to do what the government wants, one at a time.

You stand up against the new laws against government ownership of all food animals? The Feds simply find a snitch that says you have an unregistered firearm, and they raid your farm and destroy your livelihood. Of course, if they wish, they can always find a convenient unregistered firearm.

32 posted on 03/15/2011 1:27:54 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Joe Brower

Re: “We brought rifles to school because we hunted before the day began.”

Me too: I once borrowed the high school principal’s car to go home during lunch and get my shotgun [and leave it in the trunk of his car till school was out] so I could go hunting with several other students and one of the teachers after school. His only warning to me was, “Don’t forget to give me my keys back before you leave to go hunting!”


33 posted on 03/15/2011 1:54:21 PM PDT by LoneStarC
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To: Joe Brower

Re: “We brought rifles to school because we hunted before the day began.”

Me too: I once borrowed the high school principal’s car to go home during lunch and get my shotgun [and leave it in the trunk of his car till school was out] so I could go hunting with several other students and one of the teachers after school. His only warning to me was, “Don’t forget to give me my keys back before you leave to go hunting!”


34 posted on 03/15/2011 1:54:32 PM PDT by LoneStarC
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To: Joe Brower

Re: “We brought rifles to school because we hunted before the day began.”

Me too: I once borrowed the high school principal’s car to go home during lunch and get my shotgun [and leave it in the trunk of his car till school was out] so I could go hunting with several other students and one of the teachers after school. His only warning to me was, “Don’t forget to give me my keys back before you leave to go hunting!”


35 posted on 03/15/2011 1:54:38 PM PDT by LoneStarC
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To: LoneStarC

Oops - sorry about the multiple post — thought my computer wasn’t responding....


36 posted on 03/15/2011 1:55:36 PM PDT by LoneStarC
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To: Voice of Reason88

To even come up with such an idea I would presume that you reside in the NorthEast. That’s not something an Independent thinking Westerner would think of.


37 posted on 03/15/2011 2:20:43 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: B4Ranch

Having studied the enemy (oh no! how could you use such a word) I have a fair idea how they think.

Hopefully I didn’t give them any ideas they wouldn’t have developed on their own.

That one would most likely be unconstitutional, but hey what do they do that actually is constitutional?


38 posted on 03/15/2011 2:46:01 PM PDT by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: neverdem

There has never been and there will never be a free socialist society.


39 posted on 03/15/2011 2:59:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: marktwain

Perhaps somebody could tell them folks what to expect when you back a man into a corner. No, we’re not liberals so we won’t get down on our knees. We’re more than likely going to come out swinging and if they squeeze too tight we’ll come out shootin.


40 posted on 03/15/2011 4:03:40 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Voice of Reason88

I think it’s been a long time since they studied the Constitution and attempted to follow it.


41 posted on 03/15/2011 4:05:58 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: B4Ranch
I have not bought a registered weapon in over twenty years, I insist on private sales. I don’t keep track of who I buy or sell to and I’ve never had the cops knock on my door asking any questions about previously owned weapons. I will not participate in this registration game.

Hear, hear!

42 posted on 03/15/2011 5:46:07 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Jerrybob
I'm sure all the freedoms that we still enjoy drive them crazy; can't wait to cut them all down.
Libs are generally nuts. Try taking one shooting like I did about 25 years ago. The reason they don't trust us with guns is they don't trust themselves with guns.
43 posted on 03/15/2011 9:38:36 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: neverdem
[Art.] Mayors Against Illegal Guns should take a closer look at those that are committing the crimes and focus on punishing the perpetrators rather than building a bureaucracy that is targeted at legal gun owners.

Fatal incomprehension.

The target isn't, has never been, criminals. The target is the People and their rights. The People are the Main Enemy of this Marxist strategic campaign.

44 posted on 03/16/2011 3:03:59 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Voice of Reason88
OR, you automatically become a lawbreaker.

Those "gotcha" provisions don't work ..... a similar California provision in re assault rifles was held to be unconstitutional by a federal court because it pretended to force assault-rifle owners to give incriminating testimony against themselves. So out it went.

The Framers had very little patience with those kinds of games and went out of their way, as in their narrow definition of treason, to frustrate them. The British used to like to try to drive political behavior with the threat of capital punishment under a doctrine of "constructive treason" -- so the Framers drove a stake through its heart with Article III's narrow definition of treason, to take a notorious tool of compulsion away from future authorities. They did the same with self-incrimination.

45 posted on 03/16/2011 3:18:04 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

>>OR, you automatically become a lawbreaker.
>
>Those “gotcha” provisions don’t work .....

Unfortunately we’re we’re creeping up on one “gotcha” which many people tend to laud: the deprivation of the right to keep & carry firearms, and to vote, by those who would best be described as “ex-felons” {those felons who have served their sentences} and [even] straight-up felons themselves.

In 2014 ObamaCare becomes active and makes it a FELONY for someone to not have qualifying insurance; there are, IIUC, no exceptions for the unemployed or those who experience a “break in coverage” due to switching betwixt “qualifying” plans. This in conjunction with the extreme unemployment will have the effect of legally disarming huge sections of the population.


46 posted on 03/16/2011 7:34:15 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: neverdem
I remember when I was a teenager walking down the street with an Ithaca Model 37 pump 12 gauge in the rural Adirondack mountain town where I grew up. I had purchased the gun from a friend and there wasn’t any paperwork, background check, state or federal government involved. A police car pulled up next to me and the officer asked “Are you coming or going?

I remember riding down an arterial street in my home town, actually the second largest city in the state, then about 100,000, with several friends. We all had shotguns across the handlebars, some in cases, some not. We were headed out for pheasant hunting. Today we'd all be run in, ladies would a get a case of the vapors at the sight. But then, no problem. This would have been 1965.

Even earlier I used to take my Daisy right through the business district of one of the little towns that been incorporated into the city in the '20s or earlier. I'd often stop at the drug or hardware store for more BB's. I was stopped by a foot patrol officer one time. He asked where I was going to shoot, I said, "My great Uncles place just across the highway". He said, "OK, be careful", and that was that. I never shot my eye out, so I guess I was careful enough

.....

Well, I did manage to implant a BB in my older cousin's temple. It bounced off a tree when I tried to shoot a twig. I was in the back seat of a '53 Pontiac, he was in the front. (too muddy to go mucking around on our grandparents farm that day). A little lesson in knowing what is beyond your target. But he never ratted on me. Heck it didn't break the skin. :)

47 posted on 03/16/2011 9:48:10 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: from occupied ga
We had a rife range in the basement of the gym

I never knew my High School had one, or had in the past, until well after I and my brother had graduated. My dad was a grad of the school's first year of operation ('42) , and he told me it did. It was tucked rather out of the way though.

48 posted on 03/16/2011 9:52:40 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: neverdem

bttt


49 posted on 12/18/2012 10:41:22 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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