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Fiddling with gun led to fatal shot
southtownstar chicago ^ | Mar 15, 2011 | CASEY TONER

Posted on 03/15/2011 10:12:58 AM PDT by KeyLargo

Chicago Hts. cops: Fiddling with gun led to fatal shot

BY CASEY TONER

ctoner@southtownstar.com

Last Modified: Mar 15, 2011 08:48AM

Ryan Fantasia couldn’t figure out why his 9mm handgun wasn’t firing correctly, so he was fiddling with it Friday night in the bedroom of his Chicago Heights home, police said.

His girlfriend entered the room and told him to stop playing with the gun, but he pulled the slide back and the gun then fired, killing the 19-year-old woman, police said.

Haley Pelock, of the 3100 block of Courtney Lane in South Chicago Heights, died from a gunshot wound in the chest, according to the Cook County medical examiner’s office.

Fantasia, 20, of 43 W. 26th St., was charged with felony obstruction of justice for hiding the gun and originally telling police a different story, police said. Cook County Circuit Judge Darren Bowden set bail at $5,000 Sunday at the Markham courthouse, and Fantasia is next due in court April 4.

While trying to figure out why the weapon wasn’t working, Fantasia put a loaded magazine into the gun and began pulling the trigger, police said. It still wasn’t shooting until Pelock entered the room.

Chicago Heights police received a 911 call about the shooting about 7:30 p.m., police said, and when they arrived, Fantasia told them Pelock had been shot and was lying on the floor of his second-floor bedroom. Officers went to the room and saw Fantasia’s brother, John Fantasia, 30, attempting to give Pelock CPR, police said. Chicago Heights police Detective Art Robles said Ryan Fantasia, who hid the gun in the back of the house, initially claimed someone else had shot into the house.

Robles said Fantasia and Pelock had been seeing each other for about two years and there was no argument between them before the shooting, which they ruled accidental.

“You shouldn’t be playing with guns,” Robles said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; handgun; shooting; shot
Sounds like a Mr. Fantasia's story is somewhat of a fantasy? Maybe the gumshoes in Chicago Heights believe the story I guess.


1 posted on 03/15/2011 10:13:04 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
While trying to figure out why the weapon wasn’t working, Fantasia put a loaded magazine into the gun and began pulling the trigger, police said. It still wasn’t shooting until Pelock entered the room.

How convenient.

2 posted on 03/15/2011 10:15:03 AM PDT by edpc (Tagline under construction: Your American Recovery and Reinvestment Act dollars at work.)
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To: KeyLargo

It’s his story, and he’s sticking to it.


3 posted on 03/15/2011 10:15:59 AM PDT by Lazamataz (NPR is the ACORN of the media world.)
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To: KeyLargo

I see two scenarios possible:

#1 - this idiot has no business even touching a gun because he is so mentally defective as to be a danger to the world around him.

#2 - this guy is an idiot who committed murder and then made up a lie to cover himself.

either way - he is responsible for this death.


4 posted on 03/15/2011 10:17:02 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: KeyLargo
The proper headline should read:

PLAYING with gun led to fatal shot.

5 posted on 03/15/2011 10:19:10 AM PDT by Tupelo (The Boudicca from Wasilla supporter)
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To: KeyLargo

Hang him. Next case?


6 posted on 03/15/2011 10:20:01 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: KeyLargo
"That's NOT how you do it, son!"

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7 posted on 03/15/2011 10:22:07 AM PDT by digger48
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To: KeyLargo

I like how they accept the perp’s alibi as the unvarnished truth.

It couldn’t POSSIBLY be murder.

/s


8 posted on 03/15/2011 10:22:20 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Most local law enforcement in the know believe that the Chicago Heights police are Keystone cops.

“Sgt. Tom Rogers explained, in detail, what police believe happened in Fantasia’s upstairs bedroom in the first block of West 26th Street.

“What happened was, the victim just came back from school and went to visit her boyfriend [Fantasia],” Rogers said. “The boyfriend was on the bed allegedly trying to make and put together his gun that he had purchased. He was trying to be a gun guy, so to speak. As it was jamming on him he drew the slide back and it discharged. Unfortunately, his girlfriend was standing in the doorway, which was a couple of feet away, and it struck her in the abdomen area on the right side.”

Fantasia’s brother, John, then came upstairs and tried to administer CPR. After 911 was called, the police were told a different story than what had actually happened, Rogers added.

“The initial story was someone shot through the bedroom window, and that wasn’t the case,” Rogers said. “When we were able to get the boyfriend to the police station, his conscience just took over and he said, ‘I have to tell the truth about what truly happened.’”

Ryan Fantasia also initially hid the gun before the police arrived, which is partially what led to his charges, Rogers added.

“Because the gun was hidden in the back yard and he lied at first to us, he did get charged with felony obstructing,” Rogers explained. “There was no first-degree murder charge. The State’s Attorney’s office is ruling it as an accidental death.”


9 posted on 03/15/2011 10:28:17 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
but he pulled the slide back and the gun then fired

Certain that a very negligent act occurred between those two items...

10 posted on 03/15/2011 10:28:50 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: KeyLargo
but he pulled the slide back and the gun then fired

Certain that a very negligent act occurred between those two items...

11 posted on 03/15/2011 10:28:56 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: KeyLargo

Murder, plain and simple.


12 posted on 03/15/2011 10:29:24 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Lazamataz
"It’s his story, and he’s sticking to it."

Sounds like the Jason Williams defense. She would have committed suicide with just a little more time to work on his story.

Dam those cops!!!

13 posted on 03/15/2011 10:31:34 AM PDT by wmileo
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To: KeyLargo

And what was HIS test score?


14 posted on 03/15/2011 10:32:34 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: KeyLargo
His girlfriend entered the room and told him to stop playing with the gun, but he pulled the slide back and the gun then fired, killing the 19-year-old woman, police said.

He was simply checking if it was still loaded by pointing it at her heart and making it fire. Nothing to see here folks. Case closed. I hope the cops grabbed a beer after this solid police work.


15 posted on 03/15/2011 10:33:34 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: KeyLargo

I’ve never seen a slo-mo video of a Glock before that showed such frame flex.


16 posted on 03/15/2011 10:34:46 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: KeyLargo

Sounds like a murder made to look like an accident.


17 posted on 03/15/2011 10:35:12 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: KeyLargo

Good shot, Mr. Chicago man, but not really a very good story.

Center mass on the GF an accident?

Cherchez la femme, I say. Wonder what the new GF’s name is?


18 posted on 03/15/2011 10:35:51 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I'd crawl over broken glass for her. Alea iacta est.)
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To: KeyLargo

must be an ex-cop to be getting such incredible benefit of the doubt


19 posted on 03/15/2011 10:37:05 AM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many younger conservative Christians out there? __ Click my name)
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To: TheBattman

Every article I’ve seen goes out of their way to excuse him. Those are huge red flags. Check the relatives and/or to whom they contribute.


20 posted on 03/15/2011 10:38:09 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: KeyLargo

Sounds like he bought the pistol, tried to figure how it worked, slammed into it a loaded magazine and pulled the trigger. Nothing happened.

The girl walks into the room just as he pulls the slide back, releases it and pulls the trigger.

Boom.

Dum bass.


21 posted on 03/15/2011 10:39:49 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Visit the TOMMY FRANKS MILITARY MUSEUM in HOBART, OK. I did, well worth it!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

>>Sounds like he bought the pistol, tried to figure how it worked, slammed into it a loaded magazine and pulled the trigger. Nothing happened.

The girl walks into the room just as he pulls the slide back, releases it and pulls the trigger.

Boom.<<

Sure it sound like that’s what happened. If we just sit back like idiots and believe everything we’re told.


22 posted on 03/15/2011 10:43:01 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: Charles Martel
"I’ve never seen a slo-mo video of a Glock before that showed such frame flex."

All other things being equal, how accurate are they compared to a Beretta Model 92?

23 posted on 03/15/2011 10:45:28 AM PDT by wmileo
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To: KeyLargo

Two thoughts..

Don’t you have to pull the trigger on a Glock to remove the slide?

If you are just getting a handgun to have around the house.. Get. A. Revolver.


24 posted on 03/15/2011 10:46:22 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: KeyLargo

This exact same thing happened to friends of friends.

The guy was “fiddling” with his shotgun, and it “accidentally” fired, hitting the girlfriend center mass.

Of course, being true brainiacs, the rural cops immediately bought the story and the perp was not charged.

So, to paraphrase O.J. Simpson, “If you do it, here’s how you do it.”

Amazing.


25 posted on 03/15/2011 10:46:31 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

It killed the girl in my story, too.


26 posted on 03/15/2011 10:47:29 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: KeyLargo

I’m glad my career Army dad and the Boy Scouts taught me gun safety at a young age. I still remember the principles. Always assume every gun is loaded. Always check for yourself. Always control the direction of your muzzle. Keep your finger off of the trigger until you are ready to fire.

I have a healthy respect for guns.


27 posted on 03/15/2011 10:52:14 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of "liberals, Islam and illegal immigration.)
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To: KeyLargo
Because the gun was hidden in the back yard and he lied at first to us, he did get charged with felony obstructing,” Rogers explained. “There was no first-degree murder charge. The State’s Attorney’s office is ruling it as an accidental death.
Why the rush to make such a questionable ruling? After all, he's already a proven liar, and now they're accepting his Story 2.0 as The Truth.

Who is this guy? Who are his relatives? This whole thing is as phony as a Kenyan US President.

28 posted on 03/15/2011 10:56:57 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: wmileo

slide to barrel lockup would be more significant to accuracy than what is going on after the bullet leaves the barrel


29 posted on 03/15/2011 11:00:02 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: garyhope

And don’t point your weapon at anything you don’t intend to shoot. And don’t put your finger on the trigger unless you intend to pull it (the trigger, not the finger - whole different point to that last).

Colonel, USAFR


30 posted on 03/15/2011 11:03:46 AM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: jagusafr

Yeah, yeah - “SQUEEZE”, not “pull” - but whoever heard of “Hey, kid - squeeze my finger”?

Colonel, USAFR


31 posted on 03/15/2011 11:04:55 AM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: wmileo
All other things being equal, how accurate are they compared to a Beretta Model 92?

The Glocks are plenty accurate, but the Beretta 92 points much better.

For me, that just means that my Glocks require more practice, and my 92 makes me look like a pro at the range. My 92 has always been a great shooter.

My Glocks (a 21 and 19) as well as my Beretta 92 have never given me a single problem, and I wouldn't part with any of them. My G19 is my primary weapon, FWIW.

32 posted on 03/15/2011 11:05:19 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: KeyLargo

It looks like Mr Right hand is just narrowly avoiding some slide bite.

33 posted on 03/15/2011 11:09:53 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: KeyLargo
 

34 posted on 03/15/2011 11:22:06 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: KeyLargo

Let me get this straight. Off all the directions in 3 dimensions this guy could have been pointing the gun it just “happened” to be pointing at his girl friend’s chest when it went off.

Yeah. I believe that. /s


35 posted on 03/15/2011 11:27:35 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for good blaster kid.)
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To: KeyLargo
His story sounds a little fishy.


36 posted on 03/15/2011 11:28:53 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( BORN free - taxed to DEATH (and beyond) ...)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

***Sure it sound like that’s what happened. If we just sit back like idiots and believe everything we’re told.***

I’ve seen some intelligent people who were so dumb when it came to firearms they were a danger to everyone around.

I can recall one dumb, dum bass who was so dumb he made the mistake of telling us at work about being stopped by the highway patrol with a pistol stocked shotgun in the seat.

He said he HP unloaded his shotgun, confiscated his ammo and let him go because they told him that he was “DUMB”! “Too dumb to be arrested”!


37 posted on 03/15/2011 11:32:10 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Visit the TOMMY FRANKS MILITARY MUSEUM in HOBART, OK. I did, well worth it!)
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To: Vendome

Coule of comments:

1. Is this not Chicago, and is not Chicago still in IL? The guy had a handgun-is that legal? I doubt there is a FOID card involved.

2. 20 year old purchasing a handgun-THAT is illegal at the federal and I am certain IL State level (while I recognize the illegality of this, I do not agree-mind you, lawful citizens of less than 21 YOA should be able to be responsible for thier own armed self-defense).

He should be charged with at least three other felonies as well as declared stupid beyond rehabilitation....

Regards


38 posted on 03/15/2011 11:32:26 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: Vendome

***Is it loaded?***

The old way to check if a MUZZLE LOADER is loaded is to but the muzzle in your mouth and blow to see if air comes out the touch hole.

This is shown in one scene in the movie CUT THROAT ISLAND. A man points a pistol at Gena Davis. She says the pistol is unloaded because “I have your balls in my hand.” He then places the muzzle in his mouth to see if it is unloaded. It was.

I have an old report from the 1700s in which an Englishman who is bird hunting fires a flintlock. It misfired so the helper put the muzzle in his mouth and blew. It was a hangfire and it fired then and took the back out of the helper’s head.


39 posted on 03/15/2011 11:42:42 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Visit the TOMMY FRANKS MILITARY MUSEUM in HOBART, OK. I did, well worth it!)
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To: Vendome

“Is it loaded?”

No, it is not. It is a Remington Rolling Block, or a copy. You can see that the hammer and rolling block are both back, making it unable to fire. He is checking to see how clean the bore is.


40 posted on 03/15/2011 1:38:11 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: TheBattman

However did this guy get a firearms permit in Chicago?


41 posted on 03/15/2011 2:18:37 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I disagree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it -Voltaire)
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To: Manly Warrior

It’s Chicgo Heights which is not part of Chicago per se. Not sure about their CCW/laws but yeah he would need an IL handgun card.


42 posted on 03/15/2011 3:49:47 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Oztrich Boy
However did this guy get a firearms permit in Chicago?

$$$?

43 posted on 03/15/2011 4:03:41 PM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: KeyLargo

I don’t buy it. He was going to keep playing with it until it finally fired into the wall or floor? Right.


44 posted on 03/15/2011 4:17:04 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Why, then, of course, they couldn’t blame the gun!


45 posted on 03/15/2011 5:51:06 PM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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