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Allen West to birthers: focus on Obama policies instead
Palm Beach Post ^ | February 23rd, 2011 | by George Bennett

Posted on 03/16/2011 5:38:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

West speaks to a crowd of about 400 at Tuesday night's town hall meeting in Jupiter.

JUPITER — Toward the end of a 90-minute audience Q&A session at Tuesday night’s town hall meeting, U.S. Rep. Allen West, R-Plantation, was asked by former Indian Trail Improvement District board member Christopher Karch whether President Obama is “legally there or not.”

“Who is going to tell us who this man is? Is he legally there or not?” said Karch. “What are we going to do to ensure that, if he isn’t legally there, it doesn’t happen again?”

Said West: “I will tell you this: That is the dog chasing its tail. The most important thing is, it’s the policies. That’s what we have to be standing on.”

The crowd of about 400 applauded, but Karch wasn’t satisfied.

“But if he’s not, it’s treason,” Karch said.

Said West: “You will waste more time worrying yourself to death about that instead of making sure that you expand the majority in the House of Representatives, you win back the U.S. Senate so that you can stand against the policies that are emanating out of the White House…

“What is your objective? Your objective is getting back to a constitutional republic principles and values. If you spend your time worrying about someone’s citizenship, you will never get to that objective.”

West didn’t offer his own opinion on Obama’s citizenship during the public forum. So PostOnPolitics asked him after the meeting.

“He is a citizen. He’s the president. I mean, that’s all I know. I am concerned about his policies,” West said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; west
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1 posted on 03/16/2011 5:38:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Allen West - "that all I know."

How do you 'know,' Allen?

2 posted on 03/16/2011 5:41:49 PM PDT by deadrock (Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. Philo)
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To: EternalVigilance
Very disappointing...
especially after this.

But that happened before he was sworn into the club. ;*(

3 posted on 03/16/2011 5:45:20 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: EternalVigilance

He is a citizen...NOW.

He’s the president...NOW.

These are the only things we actually know. The truth is another matter. Accurate but not valid.


4 posted on 03/16/2011 5:46:35 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: EternalVigilance

CITIZEN -—> Not Necessarily Equals -—> NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

He didn’t say anything we don’t already know, which means he didn’t deny he’s not a natural born citizen.


5 posted on 03/16/2011 5:46:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: EternalVigilance
He is a citizen. He’s the president. I mean, that’s all I know. I am concerned about his policies

My respect for West just dropped.

How, pray tell, does Congressman know that Obama is a citizen? And does it matter to the Congressman if Obama is natural-born or not?

Sure, we're all concerned about his policies. But FRAUD is something that is obvious even to Obama supporters. Arcane arguments about "policy" might not be so clear.

ML/NJ

6 posted on 03/16/2011 5:47:29 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: EternalVigilance

Factually, West is correct. Obama IS a citizen, and he IS President.

But if Obamas father is the really the one Bill Ayers had the audacity to dream about, he is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.


7 posted on 03/16/2011 5:48:33 PM PDT by digger48
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To: EternalVigilance
Allen West is a RINO!
< \extreme sarcasm>
8 posted on 03/16/2011 5:49:01 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: EternalVigilance

Obviously, another RINO obot.


9 posted on 03/16/2011 5:50:20 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (If the Klan killed 60% of black babies, it would be genocide, when the left does it, its "choice".)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Well, frankly, with his rape, incest and health of the mother exceptions on abortion, I don’t consider him a solid conservative.

So this doesn’t surprise me at all.


10 posted on 03/16/2011 5:51:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (There's way more FUD in the air than there is radiation.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Hmmmmm... Not worried about someones citizenship....worried about the POTUS citizenship. Big difference there West.

Simple solution is state laws that say show the proof or your not on the ballot in that state.

Conservatives have multiple battles to fight to reverse the socialist criminal polidiots. But they have to fight em all or lose the war.

Just my opinion......


11 posted on 03/16/2011 5:51:55 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: EternalVigilance

Its probably a good suggestion. The courts arent gonna look at it, so it wont be proven or dis-proven, it will just be a conspiracy.


13 posted on 03/16/2011 5:52:59 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: EternalVigilance

My suggestion: take a cue from Congressman West.

There are plenty of things to hang around Obama’s neck, without the birth certificate thing, which, in my opinion, could be a gigantic head fake.

If Obama is not an American Citizen, it will come out when the time is right. I have faith in that.

So many here have put stock in Allen West, and I’m one of them. Listen to him on this.

I’m not saying there’s nothing to the birth certificate problem, and I’m not saying we should ignore it. It’s a matter of priorities. Let it bubble along. Look at all the more serious, dangerous, frightful shortcomings of this President, things that are happening in real time. Focus on those. Those are the things that will change hearts and minds.


14 posted on 03/16/2011 5:52:59 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Just A Nobody

For record, I am change of mind on this. Remember this whole birther thing was brought up originally by a NUTTY left winger who supported Hillary Clinton. Lets not forget that. Secondly, who really cares at this point. It is not gonna bring anybody to our side we need to win in 2012. Obama brings up birther thing cause make us sound like 9/11 conspirators. Really that is true


15 posted on 03/16/2011 5:53:38 PM PDT by GoMonster (GO)
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To: Squantos

Yeah. As if we can’t fight Obama’s policies and stand for the explicit provisions of the Constitution at the same time.


16 posted on 03/16/2011 5:53:41 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (There's way more FUD in the air than there is radiation.)
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To: DEADROCK

Mr. West’s point is to get back to basics. There is no point in being concerned about Obama’s eligibility for office, because he is now the president. As long as Obama is in that position, he will be protected against all questions.

However, he can be defeated on policy and needs to be defeated on policy. Once he is defeated, he will no longer enjoy the proytections and can therefore be prosecuted, if there is reason to prosecute.


17 posted on 03/16/2011 5:54:11 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: GoMonster
Secondly, who really cares at this point.

Everyone who cares about adhering to the oath of office to defend the Constitution of the United States.

18 posted on 03/16/2011 5:55:05 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (There's way more FUD in the air than there is radiation.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I don’t think he’s a RHINO

I do believe that stating how he feels about the situation wouldn’t do him any good at this time. There is nothing he can do about it. He is right that we have to take both the house and the senate. If a bill ever went to these two places about ensuring whether or not our usurper is a natural born, one of those houses would shoot it down.

Let’s get control of our houses first!

I like Allen West and I think he would make a mighty fine President! I wish he would run....


19 posted on 03/16/2011 5:55:14 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: EternalVigilance

I am actually capable of focusing on several things at once - Obama’s policies AND his citizenship status.


20 posted on 03/16/2011 5:55:20 PM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: EternalVigilance

Ahnold should run for president, he is a citizen.

Not that I would vote for him.


21 posted on 03/16/2011 5:55:20 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Allen West in NO RHINO...you are NUTS!!! Maybe that was his point!


22 posted on 03/16/2011 5:56:00 PM PDT by GoMonster (GO)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Allen West in NO RHINO...you are NUTS!!! Maybe that was his point!


23 posted on 03/16/2011 5:56:06 PM PDT by GoMonster (GO)
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To: DEADROCK

West is EXACTLY RIGHT.

Winning a war is using the right Strategy and Tactics. Destroying of Obama’s policies when defeating Obama is key if you destroy Obama on the birth issues the next rat will push the policies and America loses.

West was a soldier and he continues to think like a soldier heed his words and understand what he is saying. The goal is getting back to a Constitutional Republic, the birth issue (however valid) is a distraction that helps Obama.


24 posted on 03/16/2011 5:56:18 PM PDT by Leto
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To: jcsjcm

But apocalyptic hyperbole is so much more fun than getting control of our own house


25 posted on 03/16/2011 5:57:28 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Steely Tom
If Obama is not an American Citizen, it will come out when the time is right. I have faith in that.

I don't have faith in people who don't care about following the Constitution they swore to defend.

26 posted on 03/16/2011 5:57:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (There's way more FUD in the air than there is radiation.)
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To: Steely Tom
My suggestion: take a cue from Congressman West.

I concur also. West is a man of integrity and has strong leadership qualities. He has no reason to downplay the birth certificate issue, or at least he has nothing to gain.

There's plenty of other junk in Obama's background trunk. Junk that we can easily use to weigh him down. The birth certificate is important, but it's too big an issue to hang ones' hat on unless they have absolute, undeniable proof that Bambi's a foreigner. The stakes are too high to pursue it unless there's absolute certainty.

27 posted on 03/16/2011 5:57:56 PM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Well. How troubling. Now is the time to mount a Tea Party challenge from the right to throw out West in '12. Interestingly he is the most right and honest GOP'er I know. I guess he should be promoted.

West for President '12

28 posted on 03/16/2011 5:58:04 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: EternalVigilance

And we give a rat’s *ss what this guy says because....?


29 posted on 03/16/2011 5:58:06 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: GoMonster

I don’t believe he’s eligible but I’ve been driven away from the issue by those who see it as the only issue and those who treat anyone who disagrees as an enemy.


30 posted on 03/16/2011 5:58:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: EternalVigilance

LOL.

I s’pose you hate Ronald Reagan for giving us that dolt Sandra Day O’Connor and for amnesty, too? He also drank beer with Tip O’Neill. So there goes Ronnie’s legacy. ;-)


31 posted on 03/16/2011 5:59:33 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: EternalVigilance

We already did focus on Obama we elected you and alot of others to fight him, and you are not doing your job. We can do two things at once you can not even do one. Stop the spending.


32 posted on 03/16/2011 5:59:33 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: GoMonster; All

If Hillary had proof she would have used it.. Also the Nut who brought this up is a 9/11 truther.


33 posted on 03/16/2011 5:59:55 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Radical Islam is a bigger threat than the LDS.)
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To: digger48

“Factually, West is correct. Obama IS a citizen, and he IS President.”

No this is not correct. There is NO evidence that Zero is a citizen and the IS evidence that he can not be a legal officeholder of POTUS and hence not our POTUS.
Therefore West and you are wrong.


34 posted on 03/16/2011 6:00:17 PM PDT by SonsOfCollins_Wallace (NOT)
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To: EternalVigilance

At this point in time, there is nothing to Constitutionally do about Obama. He hasnt been proven to not being a natural born citizen.

So who, in a position to follow the Constitution, is not doing so?


35 posted on 03/16/2011 6:01:12 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: digger48

“Factually, West is correct. Obama IS a citizen, and he IS President.”

No this is not correct. There is NO EVIDENCE that Zero is a citizen (let me repeat - NO EVIDENCE)
There IS EVIDENCE that he can not be a legal officeholder of POTUS and hence not our POTUS.
Therefore West and you are wrong.

Cheers and Tally Ho!


36 posted on 03/16/2011 6:02:51 PM PDT by SonsOfCollins_Wallace (NOT)
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To: Jonty30

Back to basics?

What is more basic than being eligible for the office?

Oh, I forgot, tribal loyalty.


37 posted on 03/16/2011 6:03:01 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: EternalVigilance
Said West: “I will tell you this: That is the dog chasing its tail. The most important thing is, it’s the policies. That’s what we have to be standing on.”

I agree with West. While I'd like to see the truth about Obama exposed, it is a waste of West's and others time to chase this matter. He has more important battles to wage.

With less than two years until the end of Obama's term in office, our time would be best invested in defeating him. We have a better chance of learning the truth after he is out of office.

38 posted on 03/16/2011 6:03:32 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

In the world of the pure, everyone is a RINO

(which is perhaps the most overused and meaningless word out there)


39 posted on 03/16/2011 6:03:34 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Rape and incest exceptions are going to always be allowed. As they should.


40 posted on 03/16/2011 6:04:21 PM PDT by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: Raider Sam
So who, in a position to follow the Constitution, is not doing so?

Pretty much our entire political and legal elite class.

41 posted on 03/16/2011 6:04:22 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (There's way more FUD in the air than there is radiation.)
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To: EternalVigilance

That the Obama narrative is a complete fabrication is a given.

That he was born in Kenya or some such place is not.

When you know somebody’s lying, the worst thing you can do is jump to the wrong conclusion as to what they’re lying about. As far as I’m concerned, that’s what the Birther movement is doing. They’re jumping into a trap baited with the wrong conclusion.

Everything about this POTUS is a carefully crafted lie, right down to his name. But, IMO, the truth does not reside in Kenya.


42 posted on 03/16/2011 6:04:28 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Yeah...whatever. Get a life. You let this consume you. Again, this rumor was originally started by a left wing loon from Philly who had conspiracies about Bush and the Iraq war. This guy was a nut. Now we are following his rumors. Look no one disagrees with Obama and his policies. He did go to school in Indonesia which was probably not best influence. But we sound like NUTS going after this unproven conspiracy of his citizenship.


43 posted on 03/16/2011 6:04:35 PM PDT by GoMonster (GO)
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To: EternalVigilance; All

At least West has won an election unlike Alan Keyes...


44 posted on 03/16/2011 6:04:35 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Radical Islam is a bigger threat than the LDS.)
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To: ml/nj
How, pray tell, does Congressman know that Obama is a citizen?

NO proof has ever been offered to show that he is a U.S. citizen, much less a "natural born" U.S. Citizen. Only a phoney "Certification of Live Birth" and Her Pelosi's signature to the effect that he was "qualified". NO, PROOF! NONE!

45 posted on 03/16/2011 6:05:13 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Steely Tom

I agree with you.
The citizenship ruckus wastes resources that need to go toward defeating Baraq in 2012.


46 posted on 03/16/2011 6:05:13 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: EternalVigilance

In relation to Obama? With what is legally known, what can be done according to the Constitution?


47 posted on 03/16/2011 6:06:23 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: pissant
Rape and incest exceptions are going to always be allowed. As they should.

Civilized folks don't kill babies because of the sins of their fathers.

Once you start to exclude certain classes of persons from equal protection under the law, no one's rights are safe.

48 posted on 03/16/2011 6:06:41 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (There's way more FUD in the air than there is radiation.)
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To: cripplecreek

Fair enough. I agree. That is why this issue is so unimportant to me. It gets us nowhere. To be honest again there really is no hard evidence other then speculation etc...so regardless if true or not it is a detriment to our policy arguments with people who are not consumed by this.


49 posted on 03/16/2011 6:07:02 PM PDT by GoMonster (GO)
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To: GoMonster

Tell it, Brother!

Just defeat him in 2012.


50 posted on 03/16/2011 6:07:24 PM PDT by eddie willers
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