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EDITORIAL: Fire hires mired--Affirmative-action situation is legally dire for FDNY
The Washington Times ^ | March 16, 2011 | Editorial

Posted on 03/16/2011 5:54:50 PM PDT by jazusamo

Public safety is non-negotiable. That’s the message signaled Tuesday by lawyers defending the Big Apple's fire department from race-based bullying by the U.S. Justice Department.

Justice is trying to make the Fire Department of New York (FDNY) hire more minorities even though FDNY has taken extraordinary steps to recruit in black and Hispanic communities. The Obama administration, still unsatisfied, ramped up the pressure by demanding admissions quotas for interim hires and extremely low standards on fire-academy entrance exams.

Bowing to Obama wishes, U.S. District Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis created a complicated, multistep process to ram through more minority admissions, effectively forcing a hiring freeze while it all plays out. In February, Obama lawyers proposed an order for the judge to award damage payments, retroactive seniority and benefits accrual to several classes of minority applicants - some of whom missed as much as 70 percent of the questions on a basic firefighter exam.

City attorneys haven’t rolled over. In Tuesday’s answer to the administration’s proposed schedule, they sent notice that the order setting such low standards is off base...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: affirmitiveaction; doj; fdny; firefighterexam; fnyc; holder; mypeople; obama; quotas
The Obama/Holder quota stance is pathetic.
1 posted on 03/16/2011 5:54:54 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Outright war on Caucasian men; this “president”, and the governments that allow these policies/laws, are open enemies of this country’s ideals (as well as many of its people), and worthy of nothing but contempt. I can’t remember the last time I expressed a patriotic thought, or heard any of my children express one.


2 posted on 03/16/2011 5:57:32 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: jazusamo
Garaufis, Nicholas
Born 1948 in Paterson, NJ

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U. S. District Court, Eastern District of New York
Nominated by William J. Clinton on February 28, 2000, to a seat vacated by Charles P. Sifton; Confirmed by the Senate on May 24, 2000, and received commission on May 25, 2000.

Education:
Columbia College, B.A., 1969
Columbia Law School, J.D., 1974

Professional Career:
Private practice, 1973-1975
Assistant state attorney general, New York, 1975-1978
Private practice, 1978-1986
Chief legal counsel, Office of the President of the Borough of Queens, New York City, 1986-1995
Chief counsel, Federal Aviation Administration, 1995-2000

3 posted on 03/16/2011 6:00:59 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: jazusamo
Fire hires mired

Reminds me of the dwarf fortune teller that escaped from prison. The headlines that evening read: Small medium at large.

4 posted on 03/16/2011 6:02:02 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: jazusamo

Give them on the job training...


5 posted on 03/16/2011 6:02:07 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: kearnyirish2

I was going to ping you...sound familiar?


6 posted on 03/16/2011 6:04:57 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: jazusamo

Holder: Shove it up your smelly Obama.

Then, take it out and shove it in again.

You are scum.


7 posted on 03/16/2011 6:06:01 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: jazusamo

Them Obama types sure do know how to prioritize.


8 posted on 03/16/2011 6:06:11 PM PDT by relictele
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To: GOPsterinMA

Ridiculous; the fact that they are evening using the term “quota” is shocking, because in the past that would be sufficient to make these policies unconstitutional. They would use different terms, and try to sue when they didn’t get “enough” tokens. The fact that being darker somehow makes them more competent is frightening; I’m glad I don’t live in NYC.


9 posted on 03/16/2011 6:08:56 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

“Ridiculous; the fact that they are evening using the term “quota” is shocking...”

It’s called “F**K YOU!!!” Plain and simple.


10 posted on 03/16/2011 6:11:04 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Da Coyote

They are literally steps away from barring white men at the door from sitting for these tests; they will discount actual test scores, physical ability, even veteran status, to get their chocolate civil service. Our government apparently thinks that blacks & Hispanics are mentally retarded; why else would they have this stance? The soft bigotry of lowered expectations; now everyone (blacks & Hispanics included) who encounters a black or Hispanic in any job can legitimately question whether they have the most basic skills, or if they are simply part of gubmint window dressing.

These legal attacks are probably designed to blunt the effects of the “he-cession” on blacks & Hispanics, who otherwise would have no real reason not to vote against Obama in 2012.


11 posted on 03/16/2011 6:14:25 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: jazusamo
Well I can certainly see why they want more affirmative action hires, they are two of them themselves.

This is way over the top. When our federal government starts dictating hiring practices of individual cities, they have definitively proven that they have total disregard for states rights, a fundamental precept of our Constitution. How many times did Thomas Jefferson remark in his writings that when a government reaches this level of dictatorial authority over the states, it is irrevocably corrupted and should be abolished? What is it going to take for the people in this country to finally say enough is enough and bring an end to this administration before there is nothing left?

Our country came about over a dispute regarding no taxation without representation and oppressive tyranny from England. Well ladies and gentlemen, we are being taxed to death and our elected officials DO NOT represent our will. Is it time for another revolution? Is that what it will take to reverse this self destructive course our government has taken?

12 posted on 03/16/2011 6:17:22 PM PDT by NWFLConservative (The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government......Tommy J)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Why are there no legal challenges to these policies? I’ve never applied for government work, but the people sitting for them must know what is happening. In Connecticut I thought some white firemen (and a Hispanic one) won a settlement from this nonsense; were they the only ones fighting it? To press white taxpayers for jobs they can’t apply for, or to fund state schools they can’t be admitted to, is outright war.

I honestly thought once Hispanics outnumbered blacks (2000) the support for this legal condescension would plummet; blacks were already vocally opposed to white women receiving minority status (as there was no “disadvantage” as compared to white men), and an increasing number of blacks were foreign-born anyway (West African, West Indian, Brazilian, etc. - they shouldn’t have been entitled to the same “spoils of history”, I guess - but they were - and would usually score on such tests like other adult Americans).

What do the proponents of this racism think we tell our children about them, our government, various races, and “whites”? They’d be floored...


13 posted on 03/16/2011 6:22:21 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
“What do the proponents of this racism think we tell our children about them, our government, various races, and “whites”?”

That non-white males are inferior and therefore the white males must be punished. And the US government believes and promotes it.

That's my interpretation.

14 posted on 03/16/2011 6:35:52 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: jazusamo

I don’t see why we cannot have private companies bid on fire department services, a few dozen coolies would work cheep. And the food bill would be cut in half.


15 posted on 03/16/2011 6:38:05 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: thefactor

Injustice Department ping....


16 posted on 03/16/2011 6:38:49 PM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: jazusamo

It’s NYC who cares?


17 posted on 03/16/2011 6:46:43 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama,then try him for treason/ Homosexuals reject diversity/Unions finally caught for theft)
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To: jazusamo

18 posted on 03/16/2011 6:52:18 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama,then try him for treason/ Homosexuals reject diversity/Unions finally caught for theft)
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To: NoLibZone

Water finds its own level - remember that, obozo and holder. Earn it like everybody else. It’s time to end this crap once and for all.


19 posted on 03/16/2011 6:59:53 PM PDT by yorkie01
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To: jazusamo

Good for them. It is about time somebody started standing up to this crap.


20 posted on 03/16/2011 7:01:53 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: kearnyirish2
Outright war on Caucasian men; this “president”, and the governments that allow these policies/laws, are open enemies of this country’s ideals (as well as many of its people), and worthy of nothing but contempt. I can’t remember the last time I expressed a patriotic thought, or heard any of my children express one.

The economic pie is shrinking. 
When "Obama's people" get jobs they are unqualified for this means Caucasians guys are denied jobs they are qualified for and they won't find another job that pays as well. If this was the 2005 economy at least there would be other good jobs for these Caucasian applicants 

21 posted on 03/16/2011 7:10:37 PM PDT by dennisw ( The early bird catches the worm)
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I can’t believe this, one black guy got 30% on a test? And they want this guy to be a firefighter? If I was a moron, even I’d be offened by that. Hell, you just write your name at the top of the SAT exam and you get 200 points.


22 posted on 03/16/2011 7:57:35 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Absolutely; will be interesting to see how this plays out in the next 10 - 20 years.


23 posted on 03/17/2011 3:30:54 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: dennisw

It isn’t just Caucasian men denied these jobs; Asian men (a growing part of the NY/NJ population) are shut out as well. The pie certainly is shrinking, and nobody should sit idly by while their way of life and the future of their children is destroyed by these racist criminals.


24 posted on 03/17/2011 3:40:35 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

Yes it will. Personally, I don’t see the USA being one country in say, 20 years though.


25 posted on 03/17/2011 3:47:51 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Yas Asians are immigrating here in record numbers..... the Hispanic immigration invasion distracts people from this flood too. Asians get screwed by this phony way of testing firefighters.

It’s like Idiocracy where idiots swamp America
Asians and whites are screwed by the Eric Holder’s racist Department of UnJustice


26 posted on 03/17/2011 6:22:58 AM PDT by dennisw ( The early bird catches the worm)
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To: kearnyirish2

If you can’t pass a most basic test for firefighter...then GTFO and don’t annoy us anymore!


27 posted on 03/17/2011 6:24:18 AM PDT by dennisw ( The early bird catches the worm)
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To: kearnyirish2

28 posted on 03/17/2011 6:43:45 AM PDT by dennisw ( The early bird catches the worm)
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To: dennisw

It’s about the dough, not the work...that’s all it ever was.


29 posted on 03/17/2011 5:13:29 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: dennisw

He never had any use for workers who wanted fair compensation for their work; he makes his money on the backs of indentured servants and outright slaves from Asia.

Do these “libs” (actually not liberal at all, but quite autocratic) think they’ll be remembered fondly by the Third World Horde when it shows up to redistribute their wealth?


30 posted on 03/17/2011 5:18:09 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: dennisw

The Asians are getting their piece of the pie, the old-fashioned way: they bust their asses for it. They also know the dangers of having their offspring assimilate into slack-jawed, long-haired American sloths with offensive T-shirts. Their family units/culture should insulate them well against the lethargy that has infected many Americans, and political correctness is alien to them.


31 posted on 03/17/2011 5:21:12 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: GOPsterinMA

Even if the left has to go “Abraham Lincoln” on their asses, there is no way the fringe (literally - the coasts and the upper midwest) let go of the productive regions.


32 posted on 03/17/2011 5:23:21 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

Good point, but I was thinking of the opposite: The productive areas boot the fringe areas. Let them support themselves...good luck.


33 posted on 03/17/2011 5:51:23 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I understand what you meant; they just couldn’t let it happen. The “real” America has kicked the fringe’s mentality and “values” out already; now they have to throw off the yoke of the federal government.


34 posted on 03/17/2011 5:58:53 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

“...now they have to throw off the yoke of the federal government.”

Let it be done! I’ll have a place I’ll be proud to call home.


35 posted on 03/17/2011 6:14:14 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: kearnyirish2
Do these “libs” (actually not liberal at all, but quite autocratic) think they’ll be remembered fondly by the Third World Horde when it shows up to redistribute their wealth?

This is what they think but this is not their main motivation
Their main motivation is status seeking within their international globalist social set
Bill and Melinda Gates...... Their stature increases globally when they screw the native whites here with their racist Millennium Scholarships. 
The Chinese, Indians, Brazilians and Africans like it

We all know these traitors have gated compounds far above the chaos they make in America.

36 posted on 03/18/2011 1:02:29 AM PDT by dennisw ( The early bird catches the worm)
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To: kearnyirish2

Just for the heck of it this page says it all about the racist Gates Millennium Scholars fund
http://www.gmsp.org/publicweb/Scholarships.aspx

Here is who doles out the moolah to minorities only. -—>>>
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Scholarships
UNCF (United Negro College Fund)
As the nation’s oldest and most successful minority higher education assistance organization, the UNCF’s mission is to provide financial support to its 39 member institutions and increase minority degree attainment by reducing financial barriers to college. UNCF institutions and other historically black colleges and universities are highly effective, awarding 25 percent of African American baccalaureate degrees. UNCF administers more than 300 programs, including scholarship, internship and fellowship programs, mentoring, summer enrichment, and curriculum and faculty development programs. Today, UNCF supports more than 65,000 students at more than 900 colleges and universities across the country.

Hispanic Scholarship Fund (HSF)
Founded in 1975 as a not-for-profit, the Hispanic Scholarship Fund (HSF) is the nation’s preeminent Latino scholarship organization, providing the Latino community more college scholarships and educational outreach support than any other organization in the country. During the 2007-2008 academic year, HSF awarded almost 4,100 scholarships exceeding $26.7 million. In its 33-year history, HSF has awarded in excess of 86,000 scholarships, worth more than $250 million, to Latinos attending nearly 2,000 colleges and universities in all 50 states, Puerto Rico, Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands.

American Indian Graduate Center Scholars (AIGCS)
AIGCS, a non profit organization, was established in 1969. Founders Robert L. Bennett (Wisconsin Oneida) and John C. Rainer (Taos Pueblo) created a program to assist American Indian college graduates to continue their educations at the master’s, doctorate and professional degree levels. AIGC was founded to help open doors to graduate education for American Indians and to help tribes obtain the educated Indian professionals they need to become more self-sufficient and to exercise their rights to self-determination.

Asian & Pacific Islander American Scholarship Fund (APIASF)
APIASF is based in Washington, DC, and is the country’s largest non profit organization devoted solely to providing scholarships for Asian and Pacific Islander Americans. Since its formation in 2003, APIASF has distributed more than $730,000 in one-time scholarships to high school students in the United States, the Freely Associated States and the U.S. Territories who are entering college for the first time. APIASF also is the administrator of the Gates Millennium Scholars/APIA, which provides outstanding low-income Asian and Pacific Islander American students with an opportunity to complete an undergraduate college education in any discipline they choose. Supporters of APIASF include members of the general public and a wide spectrum of community and professional leaders, organizations and corporations.


37 posted on 03/18/2011 1:14:17 AM PDT by dennisw ( The early bird catches the worm)
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To: jazusamo
Congratulations, America, on your "historic" election.


38 posted on 03/18/2011 1:21:40 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: jazusamo

You can only wonder if New York firefighters (and cops) scratch their asses and wonder why they vote Democrat, and why their unions support Democrats. I’m not counting on a sudden jump in collective IQ or anything, but there must be at least a few...


39 posted on 03/18/2011 1:26:21 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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