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Filmmaker Simcha Jacobovici on the murder of the Fogel family.
United Israel.org ^ | March 17, 2011 | Simcha Jacobovici

Posted on 03/17/2011 9:53:05 AM PDT by TPOOH

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Simcha’s Message: On the Murder of the Jews

Last Friday, as with most Shabbat dinners, we had guests. It was a wonderful Shabbat. One of our guests is a commando in reserves, and he expressed his angst over whether we in Israel are doing everything possible to advance the peace process. For my part, I said that you can’t ram peace down the Palestinians’ throats. They have to want it. Literally, while we were agonizing over peace prospects and introspecting, trying to understand how our enemies feel about the situation, the Fogel family finished their Shabbat dinner, put 5 kids to bed and retired for the night. Their eldest, a 12 year old, went out with friends.

A few minutes later, two terrorists broke into their house and knifed father Udi, 37, mother Ruth, 36, 10 year old Yoav, 4 year old Elad, and three month old Hadas. They missed two kids sleeping on couches. The 12 year old found the family when she came home. None of us have been all right all week. I try to act normal, but I keep thinking about that terrorist who plunged a knife into a three month old, who was cuddling with her father in his bed.

25,000 people showed up for the funeral. My wife and I were not there, we were crying in our kitchen. Reading the foreign press and watching international news shows, the story hardly rated. The BBC, which did cover it, blamed the Fogels. They were, after all, orthodox Jews who believed that Jews had a right to live in ancient Judea. Somehow the three month old deserved it, not to speak of the older children .........

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: donate; fogel; israel; jacobovici

1 posted on 03/17/2011 9:53:20 AM PDT by TPOOH
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To: TPOOH

I just made donation. Let’s make a difference for these young people. Thanks.


2 posted on 03/17/2011 9:55:09 AM PDT by TPOOH (I wish I could have been Jerry Reed.)
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To: TPOOH

Thanks for posting this, I watch his show Naked Archaeologist. This letter is right on target.


3 posted on 03/17/2011 10:05:53 AM PDT by gattaca (Great things can be accomplished if you don't care who gets the credit. Ronald Reagan)
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To: TPOOH
For my part, I said that you can’t ram peace down the Palestinians’ throats. They have to want it.

That is the problem. The middle east peace process between Egypt, Israel and Jordan worked because you had three old men tired of fighting. Like many old men they had soured on fighting and seeing young people dying around them. That is what it takes to find peace.

The Palestinian leadership isn't tired of fighting. They need that struggle because they are abysmal failures as peacetime leaders. They have to have a state of "war" because if there wasn't the Palestinians would see that Hamas and Fatah can't deliver electricity, running water and basic services.

My fear is that whoever takes over in Egypt will be so young that they won't know what it is like to fight the Israelis, at the same time there are real questions about Israel's combat capabilities.

4 posted on 03/17/2011 10:06:44 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: TPOOH; Mrs. B.S. Roberts

The savage butchery of this family did cause the appearance of two diverse crowds.
One, a huge throng of Jews, attending the funeral of a family, deeply mourning and unable to accept the “reason”.
The other, a huge throng of celebrating Palestinians, joyous in mood as they handed out candy in the streets.
I believe behavior of BOTH groups of people say all there is to say about each.


5 posted on 03/17/2011 10:08:26 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views")
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6 posted on 03/17/2011 10:10:14 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: TPOOH
The BBC, which did cover it, blamed the Fogels. They were, after all, orthodox Jews who believed that Jews had a right to live in ancient Judea.

Let's say that you take the BBC's position. Does that mean that it is justified to kill squatters, no matter what their age is?

7 posted on 03/17/2011 10:10:52 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

“Like many old men they had soured on fighting and seeing young people dying around them. That is what it takes to find peace.”

Is this the conclusion from the naive notion that the mid-east conflict is like children in a playground?

The Arabs didn’t concede to peace because they were tired or suddenly valued human life. This book is a fascinating read that might give you more background on the realities both diplomatic and internal, that the Arab League were dealing with: http://www.amazon.com/Six-Days-War-Making-Modern/dp/0345461924


8 posted on 03/17/2011 10:45:13 AM PDT by harmonium
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To: harmonium

bttt


9 posted on 03/17/2011 10:59:46 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: TPOOH

Back in the old days, God commanded Israel to exterminate certain kingdoms, everything from the king down to the livestock. It seems that nothing less will stop deeply-rooted evil. Islam is such an evil.


10 posted on 03/17/2011 11:01:30 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TPOOH

“Meanwhile, at the funeral, there were no cries of “death to the Arabs,” no chanting for revenge, no glorification of martyrdom, no banners….25,000 quiet people in mourning. Hundreds of thousands more around the country. Not a single Arab was beat up. I was so proud of my people.”

And this is why events like this will keep happening. Sometimes anger is the right response. But instead people congratulate themselves on their spinelessness...

Saying ‘this was horrible, and look how good we are for doing nothing about it’ is really just another way of siding with evil. It’s them against us. -It’s time to face that reality and act accordingly.


11 posted on 03/17/2011 11:20:17 AM PDT by LastNorwegian
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Since the "Palestinians" are mascots of the lib world media, they will never be criticized for anything. For the Big Lib World Media the murders were a non-event. Of course, for BLWM, the killer cannot be blamed for what he did. He was forced to do it..uh, considering the circumstances. Being "oppressed" by Israel and all that.

What the World Media cannot comprehend is the moral sickness and vacuum that exists inside the much of the Islamic mideast. Do they ever wonder, apart from oil, why nothing good ever surfaces from that area? Except for Israel, these places only dispense subjugation and cruelty towards women, misery, and of course, murder. They are a backwards people who contribute nothing to the betterment of the world. If there were no Israel to blame for their countless problems, they would still be a miserable, backwards people who contribute nothing to the betterment of the world.

12 posted on 03/17/2011 11:21:32 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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Warning--the first part is difficult to watch...
13 posted on 03/17/2011 1:47:34 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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...that terrorist who plunged a knife into a three month old, who was cuddling with her father in his bed.

There is no point in trying to negotiating with such evil, their minds are poisoned beyond reason. They must be the devil's favorite minions and will surely rate a special place in Hell. May they be sent there as soon as possible.

14 posted on 03/17/2011 2:59:19 PM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: driftless2

The more I learn, the more I believe that islam was created by Satan, through his dupe Mohammed.


15 posted on 03/17/2011 3:09:42 PM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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Thanks TPOOH.
25,000 people showed up for the funeral. My wife and I were not there, we were crying in our kitchen. Reading the foreign press and watching international news shows, the story hardly rated. The BBC, which did cover it, blamed the Fogels. They were, after all, orthodox Jews who believed that Jews had a right to live in ancient Judea. Somehow the three month old deserved it, not to speak of the older children...

16 posted on 03/17/2011 3:17:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: USNBandit

Unless they are of TROP..


17 posted on 03/18/2011 1:07:24 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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