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Bombs away: UN airstrikes could begin tonight as Qaddafi’s troops near Benghazi
Hotair ^ | 03/17/2011 | Allahpundit

Posted on 03/17/2011 2:03:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

His air force is already bombing the outskirts of the city, but not for much longer. The Security Council’s expected to vote at 6 p.m. ET and the French are telling people that airstrikes against Libyan air defenses — and maybe more — could begin immediately thereafter. At the same time, Qaddafi just delivered another insane stemwinder against the rebels on Libyan radio warning people in Benghazi that the army will be rolling into town tonight and that, if they don’t surrender, they’ll receive “no mercy.” Which means, unless someone blinks in the next few hours, that city will be a bona fide international war zone by the time America goes to bed tonight.

This is turning out to be some week.

Ibrahim Dabbashi, the deputy Libyan UN ambassador, warned that, “in the coming hours we will see a real genocide if the international community does not act quickly.”

Dabbashi, who defected early on from the Gaddafi regime, said “about five” Arab states were ready to help police the no-fly zone if it was adopted

Al Jazeera’s Bays in Tobruk said that people in the city said they were confident of winning against Gaddafi, but still needed international help.

“I can tell you that when you speak to the people here, they say they’re winning, they say they’re beating back Gaddafi. Then you ask them the question should the international community do more, and they say ‘Yes, we’re all going to die if they don’t help’. So very contradictory answers to those questions,” Bays reported on Thursday.

The regime’s threatening to retaliate by attacking air and sea traffic in the Mediterranean, which is unlikely in the near term with NATO overhead but more likely if Qaddafi brokers a deal to stay in power and inevitably returns to his old terrorist-y ways. (He’s worried enough about imminent airstrikes to have opted for radio over video today.) Meanwhile, I’m intrigued by those five Arab states who are allegedly ready to help “police” the NFZ. What does that mean, exactly? McClatchy reported earlier that only two were on board so momentum is building across the region to help make this happen, but in practical terms it means — what? Certainly use of local air bases; possibly also … Arab air forces joining NATO patrols?

As for which five states are involved, Tunisia and Egypt are obvious candidates since they’re adjacent, have revolutionary fever themselves, and want to maintain good relations with the west in the near term to keep the foreign aid flowing while they reorganize. The obvious risk is that if Qaddafi somehow remains in charge, then they have to live with him and wonder if he’s plotting revenge. That’s not a big concern for Egypt, which could crush him if need be, but little Tunisia may think twice. Assuming they’re both in, though, then who are the other three states? Given the current circumstances in the region, would the Saudis dare lend logistical support to dislodging an Arab dictator — even one they despise? Stay tuned.

Exit question: How’d the NATO powers get China and Russia to go along with a no-fly zone on the Security Council? Exit answer: In a way, they didn’t.

Update: According to one report, four of the five Arab countries involved are the UAE, Qatar, Jordan, and … Saudi Arabia. No word on the fifth. I guess Tunisia and Egypt don’t want to make the mad dog mad.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; bombing; gaddafi; jordan; libya; noflyzone; qatar; saudiarabia; uae; un
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s their Civil War, let them fight it. Would we want the UN involved in our affairs?


51 posted on 03/17/2011 3:01:25 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: Republic

“Japan is our friend, too.

I am focused on Libya. ON the man who sent a passenger jet to the ground. A man Reagan used our military to retaliate against, once upon a time.”

Japan! I loved it there and feel bad for those people, real bad!

The “Duck” is easy,One sub launched cruise missile,But committing US forces, Never!


52 posted on 03/17/2011 3:03:49 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: Republic

“’....this horrific slaughter that creep is engineering in Libya.”

By “that creep” I believe you refer to the SCUM named Quadaffy (or what the hell)...

Two questions:

1. Do you think America should send it’s troops/dwindling treasure into a THIRD war into a muslim hellhole and....

2. Would you send YOUR son or daughter in to DIE for Libyans? A nation with demonstrated HOSTILITY to America and Americans?


53 posted on 03/17/2011 3:11:28 PM PDT by Levante
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To: A Strict Constructionist

If we enter into a war on the streets over socialism vs our democratic republic, then I hope my side will willingly take help from our foreign democratic friends if offered. If the power and force of the opposition has the weaponry that is available via our military ( in which I hope most would resign) or civil militias like uhbama hinted at, I would be more than grateful to any help from foreign friends.


54 posted on 03/17/2011 3:11:39 PM PDT by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: SeekAndFind

UN? Airstrikes? What are they flying, Spads?

Some astute graphics oriented FReeper post appropriate WW1 Graphic.


55 posted on 03/17/2011 3:12:39 PM PDT by brushcop
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To: Republic

“help from our foreign democratic friends if offered.”

There are some of those around?


56 posted on 03/17/2011 3:13:54 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: GeronL
The UN resolution doesn’t limit this to a no-fly zone.

Then the UN (whoever that means) better jump on this guy with both feet.

No half measures.

57 posted on 03/17/2011 3:15:05 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot (How much better off would we be if these bastards would just leave us alone?)
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To: Levante
Not readily. No. But I would for sure be a presence. Via air or water. No person in the military can choose the war he or she will be fighting for. If you consider a real peace in the middle east as important to our own future, as I do, then ridding the world of powerful terrorists (those who WILL attack us) becomes crucial.

The body scanner crap convinced me. SInce when do we allow packs of terrorists to determine our way of life?

58 posted on 03/17/2011 3:16:14 PM PDT by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: A Strict Constructionist

The number is probably dwindling as measured by uhbama’s days in office, for sure.


59 posted on 03/17/2011 3:17:52 PM PDT by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: Republic
“...freedom all over the world at times of crisis ..”

it sounds great but freedom means different things to different cultures. In the mideast their freedom revolution will certainly lead to another mullah controlled, Iran style “freedom.” I feel that all these revolutions are part of a concerted movement to advance the cause of Islam, which is, of course, total domination of the world. I don't know who is pulling the strings, but IMO, there are strings being pulled.

60 posted on 03/17/2011 3:22:06 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

i hope Qaddafi kills them all!


61 posted on 03/17/2011 3:25:30 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Republic

“Genocide does not matter to you?”

For radical mislims total genoside can’t happen quick enough!

The only good muslim is a dead one\1


62 posted on 03/17/2011 3:28:03 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: GeronL
The UN resolution doesn’t limit this to a no-fly zone.

According to this article:

"The draft resolution, backed by the western nations and the Arab League, calls for immediate action "to protect civilians and civilian populated areas under threat of attack in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, including Benghazi, while excluding an occupation force".

The UN Security Council resolution calling for action just short of an invasion is being proposed by Britain, France and the United States, though the US was earlier hesitant in supporting the joint British-French proposal to enforce the no-fly-zone over Libya."

Sounds squishy to me.

Just what I was afraid of.

Do you have some other information that would suggest stronger action?

63 posted on 03/17/2011 3:32:31 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot (How much better off would we be if these bastards would just leave us alone?)
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To: Republic

“SInce when do we allow packs of terrorists to determine our way of life?”

I agree with you and appreciate your honesty. Terrorists are SCUM and should be annihilated without mercy. The same goes for nations (like LIBYA, SYRIA, IRAN and NORTH KOREA) who harbor, train and equip these fools.

Quadaffy/Khadafy/Daffyduck should have been EXTERMINATED years ago. Yet, even after Lockerbie, the US seemed content to coexist with this piece of crap.

After years of bitching about how “mean” and what “bullies” the US were, the EuroSCUM want US to pony up the costs of “handling” that son of a drunken, goat chasing prostitute Quadafy, the costs being financial, material and MOST importantly, human...

To HELL with the Euros, AND the Libyans. IF we are not serious about exterminating Khadafi, his government, military and terrorist infrastructures, then we have NO BUSINESS in this affair. If we go to WAR, then treat it like a damn WAR.

(please note that I spelt Quadaffi’s name in almost every possible damned way to, hopefully, be accurate in at least one instance).


64 posted on 03/17/2011 3:33:59 PM PDT by Levante
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To: Palmetto Patriot

WHat is the definition of an “occupation force” that doesn’t preclude boots on the ground.


65 posted on 03/17/2011 3:34:52 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Republic

“Genocide does not matter to you?”

For heaven sake, it’s a civil war. Vaporizing about “genocide” doesn’t change that. If the freedom fighters (or whatever you call them) were winning and were about to slaughter a bunch of Ghadaffi’s people, would you be advocating US intervention on behalf of Ghadaffi because of the pending “genocide?” A bunch of people are going to lose their lives in Libya, one way or the other. All you want is for the US to choose which gang has more deaths.

Last time we got bogged down in a civil war, 50,000 Americans lost their lives and it tore America apart. You may think liberals will support this one. But they will start out supporting it and then turn on their own country and shred things again. That’s what they do.

And in our previous civil war adventure, the outcome actually made a difference to Americans. This one makes a difference to Europeans. Not to us. The best result is that one xenophobic, anti-american bunch of 7th century barbarians will replace an indistinguishably nasty bunch. The rebels would likely not provide as much comic relief as Ghadaffi and his babe bodyguards. But enhancing the seriousness of North Africa is not reason enough to jump in.

Let the Europeans handle it if they feel strongly enough about protecting their oil contracts in Libya. Without us spending money and putting our soldiers bodies on the line, I don’t think they will do much of anything.


66 posted on 03/17/2011 3:38:55 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: SeekAndFind
UN Air Force planes have been involved in all previous battles, but that UN baby blue paint makes them hard to see in the sky. They are under strict orders again to not harm or target any Muslims.
67 posted on 03/17/2011 3:40:20 PM PDT by Shqipo (I am the unofficial originator of the Mega-Bump! Only use judiciously.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They just voted FOR the no fly zone. So does that mean it starts immediately? Were planes standing by? Hmmm.


68 posted on 03/17/2011 3:42:59 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: ModelBreaker
Well the Security Council vote was 10 in favor and five abstensions so I expect the the US will begin bombing shortly. The resolution also includes language authorizing such additional measures as necessary beyond a no fly zone. Such fools we are and Obama is advancing a greater Caliphate when the Islamists advance. Qadaffi was many things, but he was most of all for himself and not an Islamist union from Iran to Morocco which is being advanced by Obama through this action. We will find out later that we have backed some rally nasty people.
69 posted on 03/17/2011 3:45:18 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: SeekAndFind

NO BLOOD FOR ISLAM!


70 posted on 03/17/2011 3:46:50 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: GeronL
WHat is the definition of an “occupation force” that doesn’t preclude boots on the ground.

It sounds to me like they are excluding ground forces. Maybe they are authorizing air and naval actions, including bombardment and blockade, and maybe special forces and covert actions. Training and arming the rebels as well.

But that would exclude taking and holding ground. In my opinion, they are leaving that up to the rebels, who are being routed at the present time.

I'm not liking this.

Sounds like a recipe for a stalemate, at best.

71 posted on 03/17/2011 3:51:05 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot (How much better off would we be if these bastards would just leave us alone?)
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To: CynicalBear

A Dutch guy on Twitter who monitors Aviation radio traffic was tweeting about an aircraft from the 318th Special Ops Command flying near Malta. That’s Cannon AFB and they have the AC-130 gunship, which would be useful in attacking assets near Benghazi, after that radar sites are taken out. (Everytime I see Blackhawk Down, I wish Clinton’s SecDef hadn’t turned down the requests for the Spectres and imagine one circling overhead, turning thousands of “skinnies” into liquefied mush.)

I agree with some of the previous posters that Ghaddafi needs payback for Pan Am 103. Nothing would be done if it weren’t for Cameron of the UK or Sarkozy of France.

BTW Xinhua is reporting we killed 80 people (including many civilians) by a drone attack in Pakistan that has angered many Pakistanis. I don’t know about 80, but the BBC has reported at least 40 dead. The American media is ignoring this story to protect Obama. If it was GWB, we’d be hearing about it non-stop. I don’t have a problem with drone attacks but the double-standard is bothersome. Obama just acts as if we’re not still at war in Iraq and Afghanistan/Pakistani tribal areas.


72 posted on 03/17/2011 3:57:56 PM PDT by Conservative Vet
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To: All

Fox now reporting that air strikes are occurring on the outskirts of Benghazi, as well as what was described as artillery attacks. It is assumed that these reports are of Lybian loyalest forces moving on Benghazi


73 posted on 03/17/2011 3:58:33 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Conservative Vet

Obama! Whats’ your exit strategy?


74 posted on 03/17/2011 4:00:41 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Levante
(please note that I spelt Quadaffi’s name in almost every possible damned way to, hopefully, be accurate in at least one instance)

LOL!-How well I relate to this comment.

Wonder if the team representing our country at the table at the UN were tough enough to assert our support but to demand the costs be equally divided. And like others here, I, too, would like to avoid troops on the ground unless and until who would take the major reigns of government there were clear. I don't believe for ONE SECOND AQ is there mastering this revolt but certainly believe Omar the tent man has put this forward to discourage any outside help for the revolutionaries there. For sure. And one smart move.

At any rate-thanks for the laugh and at least you did not use the words 'tent man' as an excuse.

75 posted on 03/17/2011 4:09:11 PM PDT by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: Levante
(please note that I spelt Quadaffi’s name in almost every possible damned way to, hopefully, be accurate in at least one instance)

LOL!-How well I relate to this comment.

Wonder if the team representing our country at the table at the UN were tough enough to assert our support but to demand the costs be equally divided. And like others here, I, too, would like to avoid troops on the ground unless and until who would take the major reigns of government there were clear. I don't believe for ONE SECOND AQ is there mastering this revolt but certainly believe Omar the tent man has put this forward to discourage any outside help for the revolutionaries there. For sure. And one smart move.

At any rate-thanks for the laugh and at least you did not use the words 'tent man' as an excuse.

76 posted on 03/17/2011 4:09:24 PM PDT by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: Republic
This is a turkey shoot...like the first iraq war..
77 posted on 03/17/2011 4:17:29 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Republic

Hi Republic,

You typed:

“Wonder if the team representing our country at the table at the UN were tough enough to assert our support but to demand the costs be equally divided.”

Our gov’t under The Osama is so corrupt, I doubt it. We probably promised to pay even more. All the better to ruin our economy. Osama/oblama is a muslim after all.

Oblama said he would stand with the muslims if the wind blew in an ugly direction. His scumbag homeboys. Hitler stated his intentions in “Mein Kampf” and no one either read it, or believed it.

“I don’t believe for ONE SECOND AQ is there mastering this revolt but certainly believe Omar the tent man has put this forward to discourage any outside help for the revolutionaries there. For sure. And one smart move.”

Neither do I. This tent dude. Very smart. It plays upon the small mentalities of the PC Sort (Oblama and the scum that elected him.)


78 posted on 03/17/2011 4:22:04 PM PDT by Levante
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To: samtheman

“And coming up the rear is Obama’s golf cart.

But is it equipped with a teleprompter powerful enough to deal with this crisis?”

Excellent photoshop opportunity here folks. Wish I had the skills...have at it!


79 posted on 03/17/2011 4:29:51 PM PDT by freebird5850 (Of course Obama loves his country...it's just that Sarah Palin loves mine!)
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To: ModelBreaker

“Let the Europeans handle it if they feel strongly enough about protecting their oil contracts in Libya.”

AMEN! IF the Euros feel so strongly about it, let them handle it.

Maybe the UK can send one of their carriers, to the rage of their muslim population. The French can send their busted Charles de Gaulle carrier (the one with armored bridge windows so thick you can’t see thru them.)

Italy can send their cute little sea control ship (too small to be called a carrier) the Guiseppe Garibaldi. And land based assets in Sicily.

Screw this. We need to stay out. Without US forces, money, and lives, the Euros won’t do SHIT.


80 posted on 03/17/2011 4:29:54 PM PDT by Levante
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To: Levante
"Our gov’t under The Osama is so corrupt, I doubt it. We probably promised to pay even more. All the better to ruin our economy. Osama/oblama is a muslim after all."

You are probably right. Hillary Clinton just announced that we would send several hundred million Tunisia to strengthen their efforts for democracy. Obama's team has also probably calculated and planned to used a war with Libya to demand no further cuts in government programs and to support the presidency.

81 posted on 03/17/2011 4:30:11 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Hojczyk
This is a turkey shoot...like the first iraq war..

How long did we enforce a no fly zone after the first Gulf War?

10 years?

How did it end? The second Gulf War.

By excluding ground troops, this resolution will probably result in a stalemate.

82 posted on 03/17/2011 4:35:27 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot (How much better off would we be if these bastards would just leave us alone?)
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To: freebird5850

83 posted on 03/17/2011 4:37:08 PM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: All

Is the United nations finally doing their job? WTF?


84 posted on 03/17/2011 5:10:05 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Sometimes the road less traveled.... is less traveled for a reason.)
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To: Hojczyk
Turkey shoot? Possibly the most perfect description available. Besides, I am sick of the word quagmire. (Especially once I learned that our precious troops had won EVERY SINGLE MAJOR BATTLE in Vietnam-the place ol walter called a quagmire.

And as a college student at that time of war-I never knew that we had won every battle in Vietnam. I thought with ol Walter's body bag count featured on the news every night, that we were losing.

I regret my lack of knowledge at that time. And that I did not run up to every young man in uniform and thank them for their service. F'n liberal media. And ol Walter Cronkite himself, the dead commie I now recall with disgust, was a MAJOR FORCE in seeing to it that Vietnam became a 'quagmire' for our nation.

But in the end of all of this crap brought down upon the world from islamist jerks, I hope that NO LEADER, TYRANT, Dictator, fake president, whatever has the courage to fund, finance and harbor terrorists. Whatever it takes to get this done. Whatever it takes to make the costs of providing breeding for these muslim terrorists, the greatest cowards in the world, far too risky for the leaders of each cesspool over there, it has to be done.

Or forever we are forced into the slavery of fear and will have to fund increasing TSA types. IN the end, we lose our freedom to move about safely if we allow terrorism to grow.

Kill it.

85 posted on 03/17/2011 6:30:14 PM PDT by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: Levante
Oblama said he would stand with the muslims if the wind blew in an ugly direction

I had forgotten that. Now it is starting to sound kind of scary. Makes ya feel a little off the wall to say that, but I am fighting the fact that my mind wants me to start believing the worst of that man.

86 posted on 03/17/2011 6:34:10 PM PDT by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: Republic

There is no genocide in Libya.


87 posted on 03/17/2011 7:13:34 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: All; SeekAndFind
It's only been... 31 days and counting?

I'm pleased Arab states are involved but it may be too little, too late for the rebels.

When Obama personally stood at a podium and called for Gaddafi to be removed, he should've had a plan in place. Obama mortgaged the reputation of the United States and the world saw it was worthless.

FoxNews Radio says we'll only be involved in logistics and refueling, that Gates does not want U.S. planes used in the bombing. We're leaving that to the Brits and French.

Can anyone explain why it's taken this long since Cameron & Sarkozy proposed the no-fly zone to get it done?

88 posted on 03/17/2011 9:13:38 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama, recreating-in-chief until Fri, Jan. 20, 2017.)
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To: Republic

Oblama IS scary.

God save the United States!!!!


89 posted on 03/18/2011 2:18:09 PM PDT by Levante
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To: newzjunkey

If the British and the French are doing all the bombing while we help them out with little stuff, then that’s fine with me.


90 posted on 03/18/2011 2:38:35 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: icwhatudo
But Obama said that there is "a credible belief that XXXXX will commit atrocities against his own people." Blah, blah blah.....just 8 years ago he was lamenting that George Bush used this (and even more compelling arguments about WMDs etc...) and railed against it. Time is a bitch, ain't it Zer0.

I don't give a rat's ass what happens in Libya, I don't give a rat's about Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Jordan, et al...they are ALL Muslims. As far as I'm concerned any conflict amongst them just reduces the number we'll eventually have to fight during Armageddon.

91 posted on 03/18/2011 2:43:21 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks SeekAndFind.
His air force is already bombing the outskirts of the city, but not for much longer. The Security Council's expected to vote at 6 p.m. ET and the French are telling people that airstrikes against Libyan air defenses -- and maybe more -- could begin immediately thereafter. At the same time, Qaddafi just delivered another insane stemwinder against the rebels on Libyan radio warning people in Benghazi that the army will be rolling into town tonight and that, if they don't surrender, they'll receive "no mercy." Which means, unless someone blinks in the next few hours, that city will be a bona fide international war zone by the time America goes to bed tonight.
The air defenses of Libya are a joke -- until foreign planes start to fall out of the sky.

Zero's trying to have his cake and eat it here. THIS needs to be made to stick to his sorry bungling Muzzie ass. One way or another I think this fiasco is the last straw and will result in a new president. And not in Libya.


92 posted on 03/18/2011 8:15:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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When I did a Google search for Bahrain, looky:

Sponsored Links

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Police shot people in their sleep,
beat children. This must stop.
www.humanrightsfirst.org/blog

(a search on Iran yielded NO sponsored links)


93 posted on 03/18/2011 8:21:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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Watch for it — there’s a LOT of meme-building by media shills:

Bahrain Razes Iconic Square http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703512404576208921480255398.html

Bipolar Obamocracy: Bombing Libya While Invading Bahrain
http://flaglerlive.com/19392/pt-bahrain-saudi-arabia/comment-page-1

Washington wrong to endorse suppression of democracy in Bahrain
by Husain Abdulla
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/03/18/3485442/washington-wrong-to-endorse-suppression.html

UK analyst [Peter Eyre] blames US for Saudi invasion of Bahrain
http://twocircles.net/2011mar18/uk_analyst_blames_us_saudi_invasion_bahrain.html

US attacked by opponents [Iran, Cuba] at UN human rights body
http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=212804

UN Rights Chief [Navi Pillay of South Africa] Condemns Brutal Crackdown On Bahraini Protesters
http://www.rttnews.com/Content/GeneralNews.aspx?Id=1578476&SM=1

Libya And Bahrain: A Tale Of American Hypocrisy
http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/libya-and-bahrain-tale-american-hypocrisy/1273/85880

Other regimes emboldened by Kadafi’s tactics
The dictator has used brute force to stay in power. Arab leaders in Yemen and elsewhere are following suit. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mideast-violence-20110319,0,1085504.story?page=2

Yemen Rally Erupts In Gunfire
[”anti-gov’t demonstrators fired first”]
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/566581/201103181847/Yemen-Rally-Erupts-In-Gunfire.htm

the flip side:

Should Congress Approve No-fly Zone?
After U.N. Security Council Vote, Debate Over How Far the President Can Go With Military Force
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/congress-vote-libya-fly-zone/story?id=13167045&page=2

Top Obama Aide Ripped by [Republican] Rubio, Senate Dems
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/03/17/obama-aide-ripped-rubio-senate-dems/


94 posted on 03/18/2011 8:50:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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