Posted on 03/17/2011 2:06:19 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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This is EXCELLENT!! So glad to know that someone still gets it.
Cary’s a good man.
All real Christian churches need to be screaming this from their pulpits.
For the religious trolls at this forum, imagine an engineer using F=MV rather than F=MA in his design. The design would fail, yes?
Now imagine a government that denies its citizens their Natural Law Rights. Think USSR, China, Cuber, . . . US?
Citizens there were/are denied basic freedoms. There were no acknowledged rights to own land, to speech, assembly, religious expression, the choice of one's doctor, what sort of car to manufacture, what an employer will pay to an employee, to survive birth, to manufacture a two gallon toilet, to one's honestly earned living, . . .
When citizens are denied too many of their God given rights, the civil society crumbles. The USSR is gone because every manifestation of government violated Natural Law. How far behind is Europe? How far behind is the US?
This afternoon, you and I face the same three options our founding fathers faced in 1776…
1) Will we have “State-Sanctioned Religion”?
The American founders said “No” when they wrote the Declaration to reject the false Anglican doctrine of the Divine Right of Kings!
2) Will we have a so-called “Secular-State” and jettison the acknowledgment of God from all three branches, as well as the public square?
The makers of the French revolution thought-so… and they have enjoyed 15 failed constitutions ever since. In defiance to the language of the preamble of our own Iowa constitution and national history…our current hubris-filled courts, in partnership with Democratic Senate leadership, would attempt to force those same failed principles of secular France upon us all!
3) Or will we maintain, in contrast to the “State-Sanctioned Religion” the founders fled, a “Religion-Sanctioned State”, like that form of government finally determined by the outcome of the American Revolution?!
I understand. But, one of the marks of an American is that they don’t easily give up on true liberty.
Outstanding post.
Aye-and that Liberty be understood to be perfected when we remember our place in the scheme.Our Liberty is to please God
and prosper-or to choose that way which seemeth right to a man -but the ends thereof is death. The Foundersseem not to have separated Liberty from our duty first to God.
Yes indeed.
The Foundersseem not to have separated Liberty from our duty first to God.
true liberty.
My perspective is slowly changing. Imagine you are in Old Testament times and the prophet comes by and says you will be captured and carried away. What do you do if you are a follower of Jehovah? Would you fight against God’s will, head for the hills or be captured and carried away?
Well, there were certainly those in those days who were warned by God, through His prophets, to go ahead and go into captivity, and to go about their regular family life during that captivity. Of course, He also set a time limit on its duration.
Those who didn’t listen were destroyed, by the way.
I agree and have passed it on to several ministers. That’s a start.
Truly Amazing!
It is clear from this good pastor’s reference’s that he is an “old school” Methodist.
In what I have read-which I admit has been limited— I see the
connection often made in that the Founders seem to have noted a distinct difference between Liberty and Licence.What I see today is more like what they called licence and less like what they seem to have believed Liberty entailed. Our duty to know and obey God seemed have a greater priority in the founding era that it seems have now. But as a Christian I admit my reading has been influenced by Christian authors. That part lacking in my public education.
We need MORE clergymen like this man.
If you are serious about knowing the thinking process of our founding fathers do a search for Knowledge Products. They have very good learning tapes on this.
One of the things this article challenges us on is what type of revolution is coming. My characterzaton of this issue is that the French revolution was a revolution for what they didn't want. Somehow our founding fathers defined our revolution toward something they wanted.
Pause for a moment and say out loud what you think our founding fathers wanted...........................
Management for what you don't want takes you in circles. Thus the French Revolution was extremely bloody, and they had 16 different constitutions. Management for what you want gives vision, and is measurable.
Now, when I listen to what liberals and conservatives are saying, I hear a lot of “what they don't want.” Will this lead us to anything?
If you are inclined, please post what you think our founding fathers wanted and your thoughts on this.
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