Posted on 03/17/2011 8:24:16 PM PDT by topher
IAEA official says conditions at plant are serious but stable, as the agency faces renewed scrutiny for its record
The only thing dangerous about the nuke plants is the story people. We’ve been there and done that, how many times?
U.N. Experts Say Conditions at Japanese Nuclear Plant Serious, But Stable
That article has the following: Andrew, a senior aide to International Atomic Energy Agency chief Yukiya Amano, emphasized that the situation could change quickly, either improving or escalating into a wider catastrophe. As emergency workers frantically worked to regain control of the dangerously overheated nuclear complex, Graham Andrew told reporters "there had been no significant worsening" over the past 24 hours at the crippled plant.
Libya is now FoxNews leading story...
Oil, gold, silver just spiked on the news. WTI back up over $103.
“serious but stable”
The hospital always says that just before someone dies.
Ya think Japan’s nuclear plant is more stable than our White House?
Further down, it states that radiation levels in Tokyo are at background radiation levels...
The Hillary story is not getting enough press...
give me a hard one - of course it is.
or before they recover
You been listening in Japanese — any takes on the current situation?
Elsewhere, birds in the area have declared the Nuke Plant a No Fly Zone, especially for Baby Birds
STABLE BUT SERIOUS could also apply, no? hey who knows.MB
You got to “love” the media.
Sh*t in your pants..but stay calm
The sky is falling... but not yet.
Everybody run for your life... but not now.
That’s just peachy- No glo Tojo means sky high WTI?
This, and the situation in the Middle East. A no fly zone leads to concerned markets.
That’s exactly what it means. We now resume our economic demise, already in progress...
Correct... commodities have been in the green since the Useless Nations Resolution. Then there was a sharp reaction to this release.
Unfortunately not a lot yesterday/today, but there haven’t been a lot major reported changes - outside the power hookup - which I lend to the following: every day that residule heat dissipates is another day closer to a cold shutdown.
I have seen more and more the japanese storyline shifting to the humanitarian issues unassociated with the nuc plants, remember it’s going on a week now and they still are having trouble getting into some of the worst areas due to all the road/bridge/tunnel wash outs (actually washout is a bit weak - complete eliminations would be a better description). I think that is a good thing.
The nuc stories are more often reporting msvt levels, the air drop and water cannon results, power being hooked back up at one of them (that is a big deal), and a lot of stories on how the gaijin are scurrying away in terror and ridiculously fighting over salt and iodine pills.
I can feel from both US and Japanese press that they sense the worst is past and they need to start getting on to other stories quickly so people forget how ridiculous some of their reporting was getting. Had an AF vet (strategic bomber pilot) practically cursing in an open forum when describing how one of the networks said that there was “a nuclear detonation at one of the japanese reactors”. Now both of us being ex-vets, we knew what they were trying to say - there was an explosion inside one of the buildings due to hydrogen buildup. “nuclear detonation” has a very specific connotation - and for us it was an unmitigated act of irresponsibility to use those words. Now I think they are scurrying away from their sensationalism.
Every day brings it closer to a cold stop - then starts years of cleanup. Noted on another thread the govt has booked entire hotels as far away as Osaka to hold the survivors once they can be reached and evacuated. It’ll be some time before there is anything to house them in anywhere near the disaster area. They need to get the cleanup started, but that will need to happen after the survivors are addressed.
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When the high rise concrete pump trucks get on site I will feel a lot better. They can pump water or concrete through same and the booms are remotely controlled with video. They can line the cabs with lead and coninuously pump water from the ocean into their hoppers.
Certainly more stable than that POS in the Whitehouse.
Interest in Germany, France and the US for the FUkushima nuclear situation.
I think you all will be surprised.
Your posting is one very good reason to keep this thread alive.
People need to read real news like you just stated.
If they had liquid nitrogen to dump on the exposed spent nuclear fuel, would that be a good thing.
One problem is the temperature (so cold that it would be dangerous for the workers -- could only be done with special equipment remotely controlled).
But unlike liquid hydrogen or liquid oxygen, it would not blow up and even if there is some sort of nuclear bombardment to change into other elements, it would not be dangerous (except for radioactive isotopes).
Getting Liquid Nitrogen there would be one problem (with enough volume). Having special equipment to spray such cold material is another (uncharted ground).
Dry Ice is another possibility, but since it is composed of oxygen (very combustible) and carbon (another fire hazard), if there is a chemical reaction it could be bad...
Anyone wonder if Soros is happy with his puppet now?
God grant me the serenity to change the things that I can change; to accept the things I cannot change; and the wisdom to know the difference.
Signing off for the night...
Is it supposed to surprise us that the Germans and French are more literate and news watching than we are?
WE VOTED IN OBAMA. Doesn’t that tell you how literate we, as a nation, are?
The ability of liquid nitrogen remove heat is about 1000 times less that that of water per unit of mass. Also the flashing away of gaseous nitrogen would carry with it large and concentrated amounts of radioactive particles. Dry ice is capable of removing about 100 times less heat than water per unit of mass. Handling large quantities of solids is very much more difficult that the same mass of liquids. The oxygen in carbon dioxide is not available to support combustion as you suggest in your subsequent post.
" We already mentioned the big Nikkei surge. Well, good news America. It's spilling over into the US markets."
"It seems currency intervention is enough to overcome ongoing fears at the nuke plant."
Soros is probably making megabucks in the foreign currency exchanges, with all the wild Yen/$ fluctuations. I don’t think he needs his puppet anymore, he has enough wealth to drive his nefarious agenda on his own.
The Hungarian ghoul is making a killing on this.
“Never let a crisis go to waste”? Soros makes Rahmbo look like a piker. He wrote the book on this.
The Bernank’s showing the BOJ where the secret hyper-drive switch is on the printing presses.
lolrotf....says it well!
Even better is use a fire engine down at the beach to pump up the sea water and use the hopper on the cement truck to add in boron.
Yes, LN2 would be a good thing.
But if they can’t pump in H20, how do you think they could manage LN2?
Inside all these buildings there is total darkness (no windows, for obvious reasons). Workers move around with flashlights or headlamps. This is what happens in a “station blackout”.
Via NHK, the heroic workers have tried to supply water using “manual pumps”. Our old farm pumps—manual—could not ever supply 1 million gallons.
U.S. Nuclear Officials Suspect Japanese Plant Has a Dire Breach
The IAEA people are almost as bad as the Japanese at telling the truth
BBC: Japan Raises Nuclear Alert Level From 4 to 5
And I posted a report yesterday on my freeper page that said very calmly and rationally the proper alert level was really a 6 . . .
I can make the very same prediction sitting here in my underpants at my keyboard. Mr. Andrew must carry Mr. Amano's briefcase and nothing more.
Actually, the entire west coast may get hit including Oregon.
>>and for us it was an unmitigated act of irresponsibility to use those words.
“Unmitigated act of irresponsibility” is a pretty good overall summary of Western reporting on Daiichi.
So you believe an inner member of the Obama Administration who has an anti-nuclear stance? Why?
Your at-the-source reports on FR have been invaluable. Thank you for sharing them.
I agree.
I am watching CNN, and they mentioned it.
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