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FoxNews: IAEA Official says Japan Nuke Plant serious but stable
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Posted on 03/17/2011 8:24:16 PM PDT by topher

IAEA official says conditions at plant are serious but stable, as the agency faces renewed scrutiny for its record


TOPICS: Breaking News; Japan
KEYWORDS: fukushima; iaea; japan; japanearthquake; nukeplant; tsunami
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To: topher

Unfortunately not a lot yesterday/today, but there haven’t been a lot major reported changes - outside the power hookup - which I lend to the following: every day that residule heat dissipates is another day closer to a cold shutdown.

I have seen more and more the japanese storyline shifting to the humanitarian issues unassociated with the nuc plants, remember it’s going on a week now and they still are having trouble getting into some of the worst areas due to all the road/bridge/tunnel wash outs (actually washout is a bit weak - complete eliminations would be a better description). I think that is a good thing.

The nuc stories are more often reporting msvt levels, the air drop and water cannon results, power being hooked back up at one of them (that is a big deal), and a lot of stories on how the gaijin are scurrying away in terror and ridiculously fighting over salt and iodine pills.

I can feel from both US and Japanese press that they sense the worst is past and they need to start getting on to other stories quickly so people forget how ridiculous some of their reporting was getting. Had an AF vet (strategic bomber pilot) practically cursing in an open forum when describing how one of the networks said that there was “a nuclear detonation at one of the japanese reactors”. Now both of us being ex-vets, we knew what they were trying to say - there was an explosion inside one of the buildings due to hydrogen buildup. “nuclear detonation” has a very specific connotation - and for us it was an unmitigated act of irresponsibility to use those words. Now I think they are scurrying away from their sensationalism.

Every day brings it closer to a cold stop - then starts years of cleanup. Noted on another thread the govt has booked entire hotels as far away as Osaka to hold the survivors once they can be reached and evacuated. It’ll be some time before there is anything to house them in anywhere near the disaster area. They need to get the cleanup started, but that will need to happen after the survivors are addressed.


21 posted on 03/17/2011 9:04:12 PM PDT by reed13
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To: darkside321

But keep watchin film at ll


22 posted on 03/17/2011 9:05:48 PM PDT by merryberry
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To: topher
This is starting to remind me of the daily reports of Yuri Andropov's health back in the early eighties.

CC

23 posted on 03/17/2011 9:10:54 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (wisdom comes from experience. experience comes from a lack of wisdom.)
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To: topher
Stable is OK, serious is not OK.

When the high rise concrete pump trucks get on site I will feel a lot better. They can pump water or concrete through same and the booms are remotely controlled with video. They can line the cabs with lead and coninuously pump water from the ocean into their hoppers.

24 posted on 03/17/2011 9:15:06 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Ya think Japan’s nuclear plant is more stable than our White House?

Certainly more stable than that POS in the Whitehouse.

25 posted on 03/17/2011 9:22:44 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (I don't prep for the disaster. I prepare for the rebuilding.)
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To: All

http://www.google.com/insights/search/#cat=0&q=Fukushima&geo=DE%2CUS%2CFR&date=today%207-d&gprop=news&cmpt=geo

Interest in Germany, France and the US for the FUkushima nuclear situation.

I think you all will be surprised.


26 posted on 03/17/2011 9:24:50 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: topher
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27 posted on 03/17/2011 9:25:11 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: reed13
Thank You.

Your posting is one very good reason to keep this thread alive.

People need to read real news like you just stated.

28 posted on 03/17/2011 9:36:35 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: jwalsh07
Question [which may be stupid]:

If they had liquid nitrogen to dump on the exposed spent nuclear fuel, would that be a good thing.

One problem is the temperature (so cold that it would be dangerous for the workers -- could only be done with special equipment remotely controlled).

But unlike liquid hydrogen or liquid oxygen, it would not blow up and even if there is some sort of nuclear bombardment to change into other elements, it would not be dangerous (except for radioactive isotopes).

Getting Liquid Nitrogen there would be one problem (with enough volume). Having special equipment to spray such cold material is another (uncharted ground).

29 posted on 03/17/2011 9:40:47 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: topher

Dry Ice is another possibility, but since it is composed of oxygen (very combustible) and carbon (another fire hazard), if there is a chemical reaction it could be bad...


30 posted on 03/17/2011 9:58:33 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: topher

Anyone wonder if Soros is happy with his puppet now?


31 posted on 03/17/2011 10:11:09 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: topher
God grant me the serenity to change the things that I can change; to accept the things I cannot change; and the wisdom to know the difference.

Signing off for the night...

32 posted on 03/17/2011 10:12:43 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Is it supposed to surprise us that the Germans and French are more literate and news watching than we are?

WE VOTED IN OBAMA. Doesn’t that tell you how literate we, as a nation, are?


33 posted on 03/17/2011 10:25:14 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: topher

The ability of liquid nitrogen remove heat is about 1000 times less that that of water per unit of mass. Also the flashing away of gaseous nitrogen would carry with it large and concentrated amounts of radioactive particles. Dry ice is capable of removing about 100 times less heat than water per unit of mass. Handling large quantities of solids is very much more difficult that the same mass of liquids. The oxygen in carbon dioxide is not available to support combustion as you suggest in your subsequent post.


34 posted on 03/17/2011 10:26:24 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
US Futures In Big Surge After G7 Yen Intervention

" We already mentioned the big Nikkei surge. Well, good news America. It's spilling over into the US markets."

"It seems currency intervention is enough to overcome ongoing fears at the nuke plant."

35 posted on 03/17/2011 10:32:57 PM PDT by blam
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Soros is probably making megabucks in the foreign currency exchanges, with all the wild Yen/$ fluctuations. I don’t think he needs his puppet anymore, he has enough wealth to drive his nefarious agenda on his own.


36 posted on 03/17/2011 10:39:38 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Le Parti du The'. Ne marchez pas sur moi!)
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To: rfp1234

The Hungarian ghoul is making a killing on this.

“Never let a crisis go to waste”? Soros makes Rahmbo look like a piker. He wrote the book on this.


37 posted on 03/17/2011 10:50:02 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: blam

The Bernank’s showing the BOJ where the secret hyper-drive switch is on the printing presses.


38 posted on 03/17/2011 10:55:45 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: darkside321

lolrotf....says it well!


39 posted on 03/17/2011 11:28:40 PM PDT by caww
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To: jwalsh07
They can line the cabs with lead and coninuously pump water from the ocean into their hoppers

Even better is use a fire engine down at the beach to pump up the sea water and use the hopper on the cement truck to add in boron.

40 posted on 03/18/2011 12:40:28 AM PDT by spokeshave (WTF....the only thing 0bambi's investments will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy.)
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