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FoxNews: IAEA Official says Japan Nuke Plant serious but stable
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Posted on 03/17/2011 8:24:16 PM PDT by topher

IAEA official says conditions at plant are serious but stable, as the agency faces renewed scrutiny for its record


TOPICS: Breaking News; Japan
KEYWORDS: fukushima; iaea; japan; japanearthquake; nukeplant; tsunami
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1 posted on 03/17/2011 8:24:20 PM PDT by topher
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To: topher
How many times have people heard of people in the hospital -- given the best of care -- that come through a serious but stable condition.
2 posted on 03/17/2011 8:27:40 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: topher
How many times have people heard of people in the hospital -- given the best of care -- that come through a serious but stable condition.
3 posted on 03/17/2011 8:29:07 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: topher

The only thing dangerous about the nuke plants is the story people. We’ve been there and done that, how many times?


4 posted on 03/17/2011 8:31:59 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Kindness will conquer evil)
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To: topher
FoxNews has this article which talks about this:

U.N. Experts Say Conditions at Japanese Nuclear Plant Serious, But Stable

That article has the following:

As emergency workers frantically worked to regain control of the dangerously overheated nuclear complex, Graham Andrew told reporters "there had been no significant worsening" over the past 24 hours at the crippled plant.

Andrew, a senior aide to International Atomic Energy Agency chief Yukiya Amano, emphasized that the situation could change quickly, either improving or escalating into a wider catastrophe.

Libya is now FoxNews leading story...

5 posted on 03/17/2011 8:34:14 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: topher

Oil, gold, silver just spiked on the news. WTI back up over $103.


6 posted on 03/17/2011 8:37:08 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: topher

“serious but stable”

The hospital always says that just before someone dies.


7 posted on 03/17/2011 8:37:37 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama, Ayers, Dohrn, Trumka: birds of a feather.)
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To: topher

Ya think Japan’s nuclear plant is more stable than our White House?


8 posted on 03/17/2011 8:41:16 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
The article states that either improving or escalating into a wider catastrophe.

Further down, it states that radiation levels in Tokyo are at background radiation levels...

9 posted on 03/17/2011 8:41:19 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Just ask Hillary Clinton. I have never had very many kind words for her, but she is very upset with Obama and his lack of leadership. For someone in the middle of a crisis to come out and say: I am not running with [that idiot] Obama in 2012 is pretty harsh criticism.

The Hillary story is not getting enough press...

10 posted on 03/17/2011 8:43:19 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

give me a hard one - of course it is.


11 posted on 03/17/2011 8:46:12 PM PDT by reed13
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To: Palladin

or before they recover


12 posted on 03/17/2011 8:47:33 PM PDT by reed13
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To: reed13

You been listening in Japanese — any takes on the current situation?


13 posted on 03/17/2011 8:47:33 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: topher
Breaking: Al Gore releases statement about concern for trees and grass around nuclear plant. States something must be done immediately to protect the grass and trees. Other tree huggers are in agreement...

Elsewhere, birds in the area have declared the Nuke Plant a No Fly Zone, especially for Baby Birds

14 posted on 03/17/2011 8:50:12 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: Palladin

STABLE BUT SERIOUS could also apply, no? hey who knows.MB


15 posted on 03/17/2011 8:50:53 PM PDT by merryberry
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To: topher

You got to “love” the media.
Sh*t in your pants..but stay calm
The sky is falling... but not yet.
Everybody run for your life... but not now.


16 posted on 03/17/2011 8:51:36 PM PDT by darkside321
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

That’s just peachy- No glo Tojo means sky high WTI?


17 posted on 03/17/2011 8:53:22 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Oil, gold, silver just spiked on the news. WTI back up over $103.

This, and the situation in the Middle East. A no fly zone leads to concerned markets.

18 posted on 03/17/2011 8:55:07 PM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: REDWOOD99

That’s exactly what it means. We now resume our economic demise, already in progress...


19 posted on 03/17/2011 8:56:17 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: mlocher

Correct... commodities have been in the green since the Useless Nations Resolution. Then there was a sharp reaction to this release.


20 posted on 03/17/2011 8:58:37 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: topher

Unfortunately not a lot yesterday/today, but there haven’t been a lot major reported changes - outside the power hookup - which I lend to the following: every day that residule heat dissipates is another day closer to a cold shutdown.

I have seen more and more the japanese storyline shifting to the humanitarian issues unassociated with the nuc plants, remember it’s going on a week now and they still are having trouble getting into some of the worst areas due to all the road/bridge/tunnel wash outs (actually washout is a bit weak - complete eliminations would be a better description). I think that is a good thing.

The nuc stories are more often reporting msvt levels, the air drop and water cannon results, power being hooked back up at one of them (that is a big deal), and a lot of stories on how the gaijin are scurrying away in terror and ridiculously fighting over salt and iodine pills.

I can feel from both US and Japanese press that they sense the worst is past and they need to start getting on to other stories quickly so people forget how ridiculous some of their reporting was getting. Had an AF vet (strategic bomber pilot) practically cursing in an open forum when describing how one of the networks said that there was “a nuclear detonation at one of the japanese reactors”. Now both of us being ex-vets, we knew what they were trying to say - there was an explosion inside one of the buildings due to hydrogen buildup. “nuclear detonation” has a very specific connotation - and for us it was an unmitigated act of irresponsibility to use those words. Now I think they are scurrying away from their sensationalism.

Every day brings it closer to a cold stop - then starts years of cleanup. Noted on another thread the govt has booked entire hotels as far away as Osaka to hold the survivors once they can be reached and evacuated. It’ll be some time before there is anything to house them in anywhere near the disaster area. They need to get the cleanup started, but that will need to happen after the survivors are addressed.


21 posted on 03/17/2011 9:04:12 PM PDT by reed13
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To: darkside321

But keep watchin film at ll


22 posted on 03/17/2011 9:05:48 PM PDT by merryberry
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To: topher
This is starting to remind me of the daily reports of Yuri Andropov's health back in the early eighties.

CC

23 posted on 03/17/2011 9:10:54 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (wisdom comes from experience. experience comes from a lack of wisdom.)
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To: topher
Stable is OK, serious is not OK.

When the high rise concrete pump trucks get on site I will feel a lot better. They can pump water or concrete through same and the booms are remotely controlled with video. They can line the cabs with lead and coninuously pump water from the ocean into their hoppers.

24 posted on 03/17/2011 9:15:06 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Ya think Japan’s nuclear plant is more stable than our White House?

Certainly more stable than that POS in the Whitehouse.

25 posted on 03/17/2011 9:22:44 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (I don't prep for the disaster. I prepare for the rebuilding.)
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To: All

http://www.google.com/insights/search/#cat=0&q=Fukushima&geo=DE%2CUS%2CFR&date=today%207-d&gprop=news&cmpt=geo

Interest in Germany, France and the US for the FUkushima nuclear situation.

I think you all will be surprised.


26 posted on 03/17/2011 9:24:50 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: topher
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27 posted on 03/17/2011 9:25:11 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: reed13
Thank You.

Your posting is one very good reason to keep this thread alive.

People need to read real news like you just stated.

28 posted on 03/17/2011 9:36:35 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: jwalsh07
Question [which may be stupid]:

If they had liquid nitrogen to dump on the exposed spent nuclear fuel, would that be a good thing.

One problem is the temperature (so cold that it would be dangerous for the workers -- could only be done with special equipment remotely controlled).

But unlike liquid hydrogen or liquid oxygen, it would not blow up and even if there is some sort of nuclear bombardment to change into other elements, it would not be dangerous (except for radioactive isotopes).

Getting Liquid Nitrogen there would be one problem (with enough volume). Having special equipment to spray such cold material is another (uncharted ground).

29 posted on 03/17/2011 9:40:47 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: topher

Dry Ice is another possibility, but since it is composed of oxygen (very combustible) and carbon (another fire hazard), if there is a chemical reaction it could be bad...


30 posted on 03/17/2011 9:58:33 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: topher

Anyone wonder if Soros is happy with his puppet now?


31 posted on 03/17/2011 10:11:09 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: topher
God grant me the serenity to change the things that I can change; to accept the things I cannot change; and the wisdom to know the difference.

Signing off for the night...

32 posted on 03/17/2011 10:12:43 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Is it supposed to surprise us that the Germans and French are more literate and news watching than we are?

WE VOTED IN OBAMA. Doesn’t that tell you how literate we, as a nation, are?


33 posted on 03/17/2011 10:25:14 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: topher

The ability of liquid nitrogen remove heat is about 1000 times less that that of water per unit of mass. Also the flashing away of gaseous nitrogen would carry with it large and concentrated amounts of radioactive particles. Dry ice is capable of removing about 100 times less heat than water per unit of mass. Handling large quantities of solids is very much more difficult that the same mass of liquids. The oxygen in carbon dioxide is not available to support combustion as you suggest in your subsequent post.


34 posted on 03/17/2011 10:26:24 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
US Futures In Big Surge After G7 Yen Intervention

" We already mentioned the big Nikkei surge. Well, good news America. It's spilling over into the US markets."

"It seems currency intervention is enough to overcome ongoing fears at the nuke plant."

35 posted on 03/17/2011 10:32:57 PM PDT by blam
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Soros is probably making megabucks in the foreign currency exchanges, with all the wild Yen/$ fluctuations. I don’t think he needs his puppet anymore, he has enough wealth to drive his nefarious agenda on his own.


36 posted on 03/17/2011 10:39:38 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Le Parti du The'. Ne marchez pas sur moi!)
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To: rfp1234

The Hungarian ghoul is making a killing on this.

“Never let a crisis go to waste”? Soros makes Rahmbo look like a piker. He wrote the book on this.


37 posted on 03/17/2011 10:50:02 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: blam

The Bernank’s showing the BOJ where the secret hyper-drive switch is on the printing presses.


38 posted on 03/17/2011 10:55:45 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: darkside321

lolrotf....says it well!


39 posted on 03/17/2011 11:28:40 PM PDT by caww
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To: jwalsh07
They can line the cabs with lead and coninuously pump water from the ocean into their hoppers

Even better is use a fire engine down at the beach to pump up the sea water and use the hopper on the cement truck to add in boron.

40 posted on 03/18/2011 12:40:28 AM PDT by spokeshave (WTF....the only thing 0bambi's investments will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy.)
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To: topher

Yes, LN2 would be a good thing.

But if they can’t pump in H20, how do you think they could manage LN2?

Inside all these buildings there is total darkness (no windows, for obvious reasons). Workers move around with flashlights or headlamps. This is what happens in a “station blackout”.

Via NHK, the heroic workers have tried to supply water using “manual pumps”. Our old farm pumps—manual—could not ever supply 1 million gallons.


41 posted on 03/18/2011 12:54:50 AM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: topher; M. Espinola; Quix; Joya; blam; reed13; B4Ranch; investigateworld
Mr IAEA Official -- "Liar, liar, Pants on fire . . ."

U.S. Nuclear Officials Suspect Japanese Plant Has a Dire Breach

The IAEA people are almost as bad as the Japanese at telling the truth

42 posted on 03/18/2011 3:14:40 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: topher; M. Espinola; Quix; Joya; blam; reed13; B4Ranch; investigateworld
This proves Japan was lying before. They are still lying . . .

BBC: Japan Raises Nuclear Alert Level From 4 to 5

And I posted a report yesterday on my freeper page that said very calmly and rationally the proper alert level was really a 6 . . .


http://www.freerepublic.com/~extexan/

43 posted on 03/18/2011 3:24:54 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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Andrew, a senior aide to International Atomic Energy Agency chief Yukiya Amano, emphasized that the situation could change quickly, either improving or escalating into a wider catastrophe.

I can make the very same prediction sitting here in my underpants at my keyboard. Mr. Andrew must carry Mr. Amano's briefcase and nothing more.

44 posted on 03/18/2011 3:31:53 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: topher

45 posted on 03/18/2011 3:42:38 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: topher; M. Espinola; Quix; Joya; blam; reed13; B4Ranch; investigateworld
Report & Video: Earthquake Predicted for California This Saturday!

Actually, the entire west coast may get hit including Oregon.

46 posted on 03/18/2011 3:43:43 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: reed13

>>and for us it was an unmitigated act of irresponsibility to use those words.

“Unmitigated act of irresponsibility” is a pretty good overall summary of Western reporting on Daiichi.


47 posted on 03/18/2011 4:06:54 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ex-Texan

So you believe an inner member of the Obama Administration who has an anti-nuclear stance? Why?


48 posted on 03/18/2011 4:16:34 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: reed13

Your at-the-source reports on FR have been invaluable. Thank you for sharing them.


49 posted on 03/18/2011 4:19:45 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (70 years ago the Japanese were our mortal enemies. Today, we pray for their nation.)
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To: topher

I agree.

I am watching CNN, and they mentioned it.


50 posted on 03/18/2011 4:36:37 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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