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Posted on 03/18/2011 7:18:32 AM PDT by wantobefree

I thought you folks would like to be in the know. EnvirReporter is taking the radiation monitoring readings for the West Coast live on UStream.

Just wanted to get this up here for your reference.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: japannuclearplants; monitoring; radiation; usradiation

1 posted on 03/18/2011 7:18:34 AM PDT by wantobefree
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To: wantobefree

I was watching this earlier laughing at the chicken littles on the cam’s chat. They were all panicking about double digit readings, it needs to be 10K+ on that particular meter before it is anything above background radiation (at least per one non-chicken little poster there who looked up the info on that meter).

Someone please start putting thorazine in the water supply.


2 posted on 03/18/2011 7:21:45 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: wantobefree

It has bounced around from 28 to 52 to 42.

What is considered a dangerous level?


3 posted on 03/18/2011 7:23:10 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

In my mind there is no acceptable level-only minimum and maximum levels a human can tolerate .


4 posted on 03/18/2011 7:25:55 AM PDT by seeker41 (CULPRIT CHINESE COMPANY INFO.)
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To: wantobefree
No offense to you for just reporting this.

But anyone who has even a very slight concern with this here in the US; as personal health risk; is a complete airhead.

The risk of your laptop computer battery exploding, is 1,000 times more likely to cause someone injury.

5 posted on 03/18/2011 7:26:18 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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To: seeker41

You absorb radiation from being around other people, from eating foods, and from the ground. Sorry if that is unacceptable to you.


6 posted on 03/18/2011 7:28:42 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: seeker41

There is a minimum level?


7 posted on 03/18/2011 7:28:56 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: TomGuy

According to a guy on that cam’s chat, it has to be in the 10K range before you have issues. Double digits, and even triple digits are natural just background radiation (the sun, cell phones, TVs, electrical lines, soil, etc).


8 posted on 03/18/2011 7:30:29 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: thackney

There is a minimum level?


Yep there exists some natural background radiation (differs from place to place). And nukes detonated around the globe allso did their (small) part to increase the generall radiation just a little bit.


9 posted on 03/18/2011 7:32:27 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: TomGuy

I believe 78 = an x-ray.


10 posted on 03/18/2011 7:34:32 AM PDT by edcoil (Rule One: Fear No Man)
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To: seeker41

Seeker, you really need to go get informed.

Radiation is all around you ALL THE TIME... its part of the world, and not only that, the UNIVERSE, we live in... Humans did not invent radioactivity, they did DISCOVER it, but it has existed since before the earth cooled and will exist long after its gone.

You are bombarded by radiation your entire life, and your body will be bombarded with it until it rots into dust. There is no such thing as a radiation free existence in nature.


11 posted on 03/18/2011 7:38:15 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: wantobefree

Totally information free link. Without any information as to what the units are, or even what SCALE the meter is set for, the digits are completely meaningless. A waste of bandwidth.


12 posted on 03/18/2011 7:40:58 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: seeker41
A Glowing Report on Radiation
13 posted on 03/18/2011 7:48:28 AM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: HamiltonJay

Perhaps you need to read more...That is not what I said or implied.

I know we absorb radiation daily-it’s cumulative amounts absorbed over the years that are dangerous and cancer causing.

Don’t ever speak to me in that way again...Be gone

BTW-I served in the USAF during the 70s at FE Warren as an E-4-guess what it was a nuke base....


14 posted on 03/18/2011 7:49:17 AM PDT by seeker41 (CULPRIT CHINESE COMPANY INFO.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

It´s pointless anyway.
Yes you will be able to detect the “new” radiation coming from japan once it arrives.
But it won´t make any difference or will have any impact on anyone. Just for example i´m living 1200 KM away from tschernobyl and we got all the “fallout” when i was a little kid because it was raining heavily when those clouds passed by. (btw. the radiation from tschernobyl is still here and detectable)
Yet i´m still here (even with my full hair ;-)
So guess what will happen to you when you are 7000 KM away?
Hint! NOTHING AT ALL!


15 posted on 03/18/2011 7:52:39 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: darkside321

I understand we have radiation all the time. But the post above stated:

“only minimum and maximum levels a human can tolerate “

That reads there is a minimum level a human can tolerate. That is not true.


16 posted on 03/18/2011 7:53:12 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: thackney

Ok...brain...all of you just read whatever you want into my post. You all sit around just waiting to ponce on anyone who states anything that you disagree with.

There are min. levels a person can tolerate. Look it up...


17 posted on 03/18/2011 7:58:54 AM PDT by seeker41 (CULPRIT CHINESE COMPANY INFO.)
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To: seeker41

I was trying to understand it. Do you mean to suggest there is a required amount of radiation for a person?

If not (and likely not what you meant) what do you mean by min and max?


18 posted on 03/18/2011 8:06:20 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: seeker41
ponce de León?

You all sit around just waiting to ponce on anyone who states anything that you disagree with.

If we sat around waiting for people to state what we agree with, the echoes would be unbearable and boring.

19 posted on 03/18/2011 8:06:52 AM PDT by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: wantobefree

Btw. did you know that the US did nuke itself pretty often? ;-)
and i´m not talking about nukes detonated under the ground!
Yet you are still here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA8z94MXo9M&feature=related


20 posted on 03/18/2011 8:07:11 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: seeker41

We know so little about how radiation affects the human body over time.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2690705/posts


21 posted on 03/18/2011 8:09:51 AM PDT by DManA
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To: listenhillary

ROTFLMAO


22 posted on 03/18/2011 8:12:21 AM PDT by seeker41 (CULPRIT CHINESE COMPANY INFO.)
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To: thackney

What I meant is that there are min. levels people can tolerate for a specific amount of time before it causes damage to your body. Maximum levels are when you begin to experience illness or long term effects.

Perhaps a misunderstanding, I am not having a good day.


23 posted on 03/18/2011 8:15:26 AM PDT by seeker41 (CULPRIT CHINESE COMPANY INFO.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Three sources: the sun, food and terrestrial. Granite, stone houses emit more than wooden houses; sandy soil is better than mountainous rocky soil; some foods e.g., Brazil nuts, have a fair amount. It’s everywhere.


24 posted on 03/18/2011 8:18:27 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: seeker41
Sorry about your day.

I think they idea of a min and max is misleading. As you mentioned, it is time dependent. It should be thought of as a sloping line on a graph over time.

I know people want to simplify to gain or give understanding. But radiation is a cumulative effect, very time dependent.

Understanding that helps people realize how the workers can survive in “unacceptable” high levels to supply water to the pools and the like.

Cheers

25 posted on 03/18/2011 8:22:21 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: wantobefree

Successor to the spill cam.


26 posted on 03/18/2011 8:24:09 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: wantobefree

I happen to be old enough to have lived through hundreds of above ground nuclear tests in the Pacific and Nevada. They released many orders of magnitude of the pittance the Japanese reactors are likely to release even under the worst case.

It is past time the press and uninformed grow up and get real.

The biggest problem we face is not radiation, but the debt and reliance on foreign energy sources.


27 posted on 03/18/2011 8:25:16 AM PDT by gleneagle
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To: thackney

Thank you for your reasoned comments.


28 posted on 03/18/2011 8:25:42 AM PDT by seeker41 (CULPRIT CHINESE COMPANY INFO.)
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To: seeker41

There are studies that have shown that above average exposure to radiation has been beneficial. I don’t claim to be an expert nor have I examined the validity of these studies.

This is not the definitive source, but mentions some of the studies. http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/printer_friendly.cgi?article=414


29 posted on 03/18/2011 8:28:10 AM PDT by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: seeker41
There has been too many FReepers twisted off sideways on this topic and I am sure I have contributed to some it.

I'm trying to understand people point of view. In my opinion, lack of knowledge, combined with those pushing panic, is making the perception of the situation far worse than it is.

No doubt, this is a very bad nuclear accident, and could get worse. But if people in the US are buying up significant portions of the world's supply iodine tablets in fear of this accident, we are not understanding the dangers.

I am “pro-energy” and anti-government funding of energy. I contribute a lot on these topics and try to find supporting information for my point of view and challenge those I think are spreading false or misleading information. Sometimes I'm wrong.

What I do not want to see, is fear that is not based on facts, dictate our future energy policies. I understand some people when presented with the same information are not going to see it the way I do. But I want their judgment based on real information and I want Free Republic to be a good source of that information.

30 posted on 03/18/2011 8:41:38 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: thackney

Understood and agree. Years ago it was like that-seems to have evolved in forum for sarcasm and put downs.


31 posted on 03/18/2011 8:50:54 AM PDT by seeker41 (CULPRIT CHINESE COMPANY INFO.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“But anyone who has even a very slight concern with this here in the US; as personal health risk; is a complete airhead”

Well excuuuuse me! Not that I think we are really going to get any heavy levels of radiation here but we have a 4 month pregnant daughter/daughter in law and 2 year old grandchild in San Jose so frankly I don’t mind looking at the meter and feeling good to see that its a low reading.

I feel better to get the reassurance from an instrument rather than from you or the Marxist Regime currently running our country.

I think the definition of “airhead” may well extend beyond the person who posted the link and those who would like to take a look at it.


32 posted on 03/18/2011 9:02:50 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: wantobefree

A number is not a measurement. It needs units and it needs a scale.

It’s like saying, “I live 5 from here.” 5 miles? 5 feet? 5 meters? 5 x 10^3 meters?

It would also be helpful to know what the danger of various levels are.


33 posted on 03/18/2011 9:34:45 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I understand your concern .
My point was that people shouldn't be panicked by something that they know full and well isn't a threat.

If I had a pregnant daughter on the West coast; I would be watching the levels also even though I knew there was no danger to her.

As the poster said yesterday; we tested 100’s of nuclear weapons in the desert here in the 50’s and 60’s.

34 posted on 03/18/2011 10:02:25 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
GG,

It is interesting that you see yourself in the Airhead comment, prompting your response.

I do not know you, nor assume that you fit the description, but I encourage you to find information from sources you trust about the effects of radiation on the human body. Listening to the “news” or any government would convince you that we will all die within hours of the “radioactive cloud” hitting the west coast.

Quick question: Do you eat bananas regularly? Good source of potassium aren't they. Did you know that if you eat 1 banana per day that you are ingesting the same amount of radiation that the folks 10 miles away from the reactor, in the radioactive cloud are getting?

I understand that you feel concerned, but I would recommend you gather the facts you need to either justify your concern, or to alleviate it.

35 posted on 03/18/2011 10:27:37 AM PDT by RetiredNavy ("Only accurate firearms are interesting")
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I think most people are not panicked and I’m certainly not but frankly I wouldn’t make fun of the poster who put up the link to the radiation monitoring instrument. I’m guessing a lot of folks went there and took a quick look. I did.

Apparently just a little while ago the CEO of the Japanese electric company broke down in tears on TV and said the severity of the crisis at the Fukishimo Nuclear plant is way worse that they were reporting. Now there is the possibility that they will have to try to dump cement on it like Chernobyl. So actually none of us really know what the possibilities are. Hopefully everythng will be OK.


36 posted on 03/18/2011 11:02:56 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
“I wouldn’t make fun of the poster who put up the link to the radiation monitoring instrument.”

Not making fun of the link; at least that was not my intention.
Just trying to point out the actual risks right now; from what we know; are essentially 0 for people in the US.

We have all of this instant information now at our fingertips that we never used to have.
In some ways it seems people are almost more uninformed about facts and science than they used to be (pre internet).

People can put all kinds of wild ideas (speculation with no facts) on the web; and people eat it up.
People need to seek facts and science when they hear things.
The Gulf oil spill brought up all kinds of wild ideas and conspiracy theories. Some from people on this forum.
Those all turned out to be false of course.

37 posted on 03/18/2011 11:20:34 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I wonder how many people still think “Meltdown” = Nuclear Explosion = Bomb?


38 posted on 03/18/2011 11:50:53 AM PDT by RetiredNavy ("Only accurate firearms are interesting")
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To: RetiredNavy

“I wonder how many people still think “Meltdown” = Nuclear Explosion = Bomb?”

Many.
My daughter has spoken to high school classes about nuclear energy.
Many of them think it’s unsafe because the plants could explode like a nuclear warhead.
You just have to shake your head.


39 posted on 03/18/2011 12:05:15 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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