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Fukushima one week on: Situation 'stable', says IAEA | Shameful media panic
The Register - UK ^ | 18th March 2011 12:56 GMT | Lewis Page

Posted on 03/18/2011 11:13:39 AM PDT by brityank

Fukushima one week on: Situation 'stable', says IAEA

Shameful media panic very slowly begins to subside

By Lewis Page • Posted in Physics, 18th March 2011 12:56 GMT

The situation at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear powerplant in Japan, badly damaged during the extremely severe earthquake and tsunami there a week ago, continues to stabilise. It is becoming more probable by the day that public health consequences will be zero and radiation health effects among workers at the site will be so minor as to be hard to measure. Nuclear experts are beginning to condemn the international hysteria which has followed the incident in increasingly blunt terms.
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Main killer in all this? The panic
Analysis


The Fukushima reactors actually came through the quake with flying colours despite the fact that it was five times stronger than they had been built to withstand. Only with the following tsunami – again, bigger than the design allowed for – did problems develop, and these problems seem likely to end in insignificant consequences. The Nos 1, 2 and 3 reactors at Daiichi may never produce power again – though this is not certain – but the likelihood is that Nos 4, 5 and 6 will return to service behind a bigger tsunami barrier.

The lesson to learn here is that if your country is hit by a monster earthquake and tsunami, one of the safest places to be is at the local nuclear powerplant. Other Japanese nuclear powerplants in the quake-stricken area, in fact, are sheltering homeless refugees in their buildings – which are some of the few in the region left standing at all, let alone with heating, water and other amenities.

Nothing else in the quake-stricken area has come through anything like as well as the nuclear power stations, or with so little harm to the population. All other forms of infrastructure – transport, housing, industries – have failed the people in and around them comprehensively, leading to deaths most probably in the tens of thousands. Fires, explosions and tank/pipeline ruptures all across the region will have done incalculably more environmental damage, distributed hugely greater amounts of carcinogens than Fukushima Daiichi – which has so far emitted almost nothing but radioactive steam (which becomes non-radioactive within minutes of being generated).

And yet nobody will say after this: "don't build roads; don't build towns; don't build ships or chemical plants or oil refineries or railways". That would be ridiculous, of course, even though having all those things has actually led to terrible loss of life, destruction and pollution in the quake's wake.

But far and away more ridiculously, a lot of people are already saying that Fukushima with its probable zero consequences means that no new nuclear powerplants should ever be built again. ®

Personal bootnote


As one who earns his living in the media these days, I can only apologise on behalf of my profession for the unbelievable levels of fear and misinformation purveyed this week. I have never been so ashamed to call myself a journalist.

 

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This is a three page dissertation that lays out in very comprehensive detail the causes of the Fukushima power plants problems from both the quake and the resultant tsunami, and shows that these plants were by far safer than just about any other infrastructure in the region.

Yes, there are other things that can and maybe could have been done, but all in all they performed beyond their design specifications - and for that we owe a great deal of gratitude to the engineers and contractors from forty years ago.

1 posted on 03/18/2011 11:13:44 AM PDT by brityank
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To: brityank

The usual culprits — Anderson and Shep — the disaster drama queens.


2 posted on 03/18/2011 11:16:26 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: SE Mom; silverleaf; BuckeyeTexan; SteveH

For your perusal.

Thanks for the good detail you have provided on the threads, I appreciate it.


3 posted on 03/18/2011 11:17:48 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: jersey117

Stateside - yes.

But the screaming faces in the rest of the world’s Maggot Media are just as bad!


4 posted on 03/18/2011 11:19:29 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank
Yes, there are other things that can and maybe could have been done, but all in all they performed beyond their design specifications - and for that we owe a great deal of gratitude to the engineers and contractors from forty years ago.

I assure you this event has the attention of the retired nuclear enginner community. Like everyone else they are horrified by the crisis. I am certain they would be appreciative of your sentiment.

5 posted on 03/18/2011 11:21:00 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: brityank

Has Shep “The Drama Queen” Smith reported any cases of cannibalism yet, as he did during Katrina? Roger Ailes is a dimwit for paying this laughable “reporter.”


6 posted on 03/18/2011 11:21:47 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: brityank

After this reactor eventually gets dismantled they need to build a CANDU reactor to replace it.

CANDU reactors if they run out of water will simply shut down.


7 posted on 03/18/2011 11:26:09 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: brityank

Thanks...great post!


8 posted on 03/18/2011 11:28:31 AM PDT by jdsteel (I like the way the words "Palin for President" make progressives apoplectic.)
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To: brityank
Yes, there are other things that can and maybe could have been done, but all in all they performed beyond their design specifications - and for that we owe a great deal of gratitude to the engineers and contractors from forty years ago.

Can't be. I've been reading on FR for an entire week that this is Chernobyl times 6.

9 posted on 03/18/2011 11:28:47 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: brityank

*bump*


10 posted on 03/18/2011 11:29:18 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: brityank

Good link. I just posted much the same thing here; http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2690669/posts?page=115#115

People need to drill down past all the emotional hype, extrapolations, imaginations, speculations, to objective primary sources to get the real story. When you get there you can see this nuclear disaster cannot rationally be put in the same catagory as Chernobyl. Some of the “windmills as giants” people have imagined would make Don Quixote insanely jealous.


11 posted on 03/18/2011 11:31:32 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: brityank

The moment nuclear plant chief WEPT as Japanese finally admit that radiation leak is serious enough to kill people

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367684/Nuclear-plant-chief-weeps-Japanese-finally-admit-radiation-leak-kill-people.html#ixzz1Gydr1ECn

In truth this situation is not over....though signs are completely promising they are still just signs at the moment.


12 posted on 03/18/2011 11:32:10 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: brityank
Japanese oil refinery following quake:

I'd rather be near Fukushima, than this toxic stew.

13 posted on 03/18/2011 11:33:21 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: ScreamingFist
Can't be. I've been reading on FR for an entire week that this is Chernobyl times 6.

Please -- take your screaming fist and smash those screaming faces! Thanks!!       ;^)

14 posted on 03/18/2011 11:34:30 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: winoneforthegipper
In truth this situation is not over....though signs are completely promising they are still just signs at the moment.

I don't see this being "over" for at least a couple of months. It will take at least that long to get the pools stable and cool, and clear away the damaged infrastructure to effect repair. It just needs time and treasure - eventually both will be found.

15 posted on 03/18/2011 11:38:16 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: mvpel

That’s a very good point. There is more damage to Japan’s environment from all of her other infrastructure than from all of the nuclear power plants in both Japan and the US for the past fifty years!


16 posted on 03/18/2011 11:41:09 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank
Please -- take your screaming fist and smash those screaming faces! Thanks!!

LOL! Well, I have been old FRiend. I will say that many FReepers that were in a panic a week ago went out, read, became informed and are now some of the better sources on what is currently happening. Other FReepers seem to love the doom and gloom and panic mongering. Thank you for the post.

17 posted on 03/18/2011 11:46:41 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: ScreamingFist
Can't be. I've been reading on FR for an entire week that this is Chernobyl times 6.

I gave up on the media immediately. My greatest disappointment was with some posters here. I came to realize that the green animists and end times flagellants were just different sides of the same coin. We will never know how many have died because of misinformation from the panic mongers.
18 posted on 03/18/2011 11:58:43 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: brityank
But the screaming faces in the rest of the world’s Maggot Media are just as bad!

Including some who should know better like Mat Drudge apparently...

19 posted on 03/18/2011 12:00:18 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: PA Engineer
My greatest disappointment was with some posters here.

Agree completely. Apparently there are many FReepers that I have no desire to share a foxhole with if the S really does HTF.

20 posted on 03/18/2011 12:09:09 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: PA Engineer

You got that right! bttt


21 posted on 03/18/2011 12:09:09 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: jersey117
The usual culprits — Anderson and Shep — the disaster drama queens.

Just the usual "Ready, Fire, Aim".

This incident may turn out to be the best thing that's ever happened for the nuclear industry.

22 posted on 03/18/2011 12:11:53 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (The mighty zero, obama,does not warrant the respect necessary for his name to be capitalized.)
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To: GraceG
CANDU reactors if they run out of water will simply shut down.

What do you mean? There is no need to cool the core down?

23 posted on 03/18/2011 12:13:46 PM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: brityank

The state run “media” does go overboard with these things. They try to turn the whole thing into a movie. It helps their sagging ratings. That, joined with their orders to exploit the situation from the rich, white boys down at the DNC, can turn anything into mass hysteria.


24 posted on 03/18/2011 12:26:46 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you thought the lame duck Congress was fun, you're gonna love a lame duck Kenyan president.)
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To: frogjerk

[ CANDU reactors if they run out of water will simply shut down.
What do you mean? There is no need to cool the core down? ]

In order for the core of a CANDU reactor to activate you need the core to be filled with Heavy Water. If you remove the heavy water the reaction STOPS dead in it’s tracks. So if you lose the water the reactor shuts down. So losing water in a CANDU reactor instead of leading to meltdown will be the equivalent to removed the fuel from the core.

The heavy water that the reactor uses can be poured out in the street and is very much non toxic, i just wouldn’t drink more than 1 gallon of it a day for more than a week.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CANDU_reactor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_water

India and Canada are using this tech.... We aren’t because we are scared spitless over anything with the word “Nuclear” in it. No doubt the EPA and the NRC is doing all they can to stop this reactor in the states.


25 posted on 03/18/2011 12:28:25 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: brityank
Well, in all fairness, from my media informed understanding, this thing was perilously teetering on the edge of a full out nuclear blast and chain reaction that would make Nagasaki/Hiroshima look like a day in the park. It also could have forseeably unleash the fury of Godzilla on the unsuspecting Japanese.

All in all, this could have lead to the deaths of more than 10,000 people, but disaster was averted and everything is just like it was two weeks ago.

That's what the news has told me anyway.

26 posted on 03/18/2011 12:31:40 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: brityank
badly damaged during the extremely severe earthquake and tsunami there a week ago,

I agree with your statements wholeheartedly.

Is not the above sentence a lie? The plant came through the disasters of quake and tsunami fine. Something just took the backup diesel generators off-line and I don't know that they've got a reasoning for that yet. Not that I've seen at least.

27 posted on 03/18/2011 12:32:19 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spineless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: brityank
As one who earns his living in the media these days, I can only apologise on behalf of my profession for the unbelievable levels of fear and misinformation purveyed this week. I have never been so ashamed to call myself a journalist.

A-bleeping-men.

28 posted on 03/18/2011 12:35:28 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak-Adams)
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To: brityank

This is an excellent piece- thanks for posting. Unfortunate as it may be, and as unacceptable as it is for leftists, life isn’t fair, accidents happen, nothing is foolproof and there’s no such thing as complete safety or security.

It may get worse before it gets better- or it may just get better. But still- as bad as this is, there’s hundreds of nuclear power plants around the globe that function day in and day out without causing danger to the public.

It’s taken two years for me to think Obama did something right (regardless of his true motives). While many other world leaders have said they’re closing plants or going to stop building new ones and are having various knee-jerk reactions etc.- he ordered a saftey review- which seems reasonable, but hasn’t gone overboard and hasn’t added to the panic.


29 posted on 03/18/2011 12:37:33 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: brityank

The News media has the public scarred to death. This is not like we never weathered fallout before. we dropped many Nuclear bombs before and there never was this hysteria before. We set off A-bombs in Nevada and H-bombs in the Pacific! We are all still here! I have three eyes but ok!


30 posted on 03/18/2011 12:40:13 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: ScreamingFist; PA Engineer

Amen to both!


31 posted on 03/18/2011 12:41:33 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

bttt


32 posted on 03/18/2011 12:42:43 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: ScreamingFist
Apparently there are many FReepers that I have no desire to share a foxhole with if the S really does HTF.

LOL. I was thinking the same thing.
33 posted on 03/18/2011 12:43:20 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: brityank
Maggot Media
That's good. That's as good as "drive-by media".

Did you coin it?

34 posted on 03/18/2011 12:45:29 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: brityank

So does anyone want me to go through all the threads of the past week and create a “Chicken-Little-Freepers” ping list so those of us who were insulted for urging calm can rub their noses in it?


35 posted on 03/18/2011 12:49:39 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (If every person were like Sarah Palin, this world would be a peaceful, beautiful world to live in.)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
Something just took the backup diesel generators off-line and I don't know that they've got a reasoning for that yet. Not that I've seen at least.

BEFORE



AFTER



The plant was hit by the Tsunami. The diesel tanks at the port terminal washed away. The information was posted here before. It was drowned out by all of the static.
36 posted on 03/18/2011 12:52:54 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: brityank

So we went from Chernobyl in a matter of hours all week to it’s stable. I’m sure the MSM will get right on on reporting this.


37 posted on 03/18/2011 12:52:54 PM PDT by matt04
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To: GraceG
CANDU reactors if they run out of water will simply shut down.

Instead of using water, with all of its problems like corrosion and disassociation to H & O gasses, I 'd rather see the Thorium-Flouride reactors go on line. It has a freeze plug that needs the reactor's power to keep it frozen in place, and retaining the salt fluids and nuclear fuel in the core. No fluid and the core shuts down and cools itself off.

38 posted on 03/18/2011 12:54:28 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: SE Mom

Uhh, I think you may be misreading the Obama-code, in which “safety review” means “complete shutdown.” The guy is a liar from the marrow of his bones.

The only hope is that he will allow enough to be done to guarantee his re-election.


39 posted on 03/18/2011 12:54:43 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: GraceG
CANDU reactors if they run out of water will simply shut down.

So do PWR's and BWR's. CANDU's have the same decay heat issues and same spent fuel issues. The problem with all reactors is not getting shut down (which was THE problem at Chernobyl) but having cooling to remove waste heat.

40 posted on 03/18/2011 12:55:11 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: samtheman
I've routinely called them the Maggot Slime Media for a couple of years - they feast on the body politic and create fetid carrion.

Pass it around. :^)

41 posted on 03/18/2011 12:58:11 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

That’s a great description! ‘Maggot Slime Media’...sweet!


42 posted on 03/18/2011 1:00:29 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: PA Engineer

TY for that ;)


43 posted on 03/18/2011 1:01:06 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spineless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: frogjerk

Wikipedia is pretty good for anything besides politics or the humanities. Try it, as there’s lots of info on all types - LIFTER, Pebble Bed, CANDU, etc.


44 posted on 03/18/2011 1:01:52 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

I always wondered what MSM stands for. :)


45 posted on 03/18/2011 1:03:04 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: brityank

For those who didn’t make it all the way to the third article in the series:

“The lesson to learn here is that if your country is hit by a monster earthquake and tsunami, one of the safest places to be is at the local nuclear powerplant. Other Japanese nuclear powerplants in the quake-stricken area, in fact, are sheltering homeless refugees in their buildings – which are some of the few in the region left standing at all, let alone with heating, water and other amenities.”


46 posted on 03/18/2011 1:03:15 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: AndyJackson

I like the pebble bed nuclear reactor technology. I would like to get my hands on the spent pebbles to bury in my driveway. Run a ground loop (no compressor) and free heat and deicing system in winter. One can dream. ;-)


47 posted on 03/18/2011 1:03:15 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: PA Engineer
Hey, if you're an engineer, answer a question for me if you can?

Is it really so hard to fly in some few generators and pumps at the start of this to keep those coolant systems intact and operating?

It doesn't seem like it should be that hard to me but I'm a computer guy as I've pointed out in other places, not an engineer or anything even close to that.

The quake/tsunami hit on Friday, they had steam on sat morning and the first explosion was Monday evening. They couldn't have gotten power and pumps in that area in that 3 day weekend for some reason that I can't see?

48 posted on 03/18/2011 1:06:08 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spineless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: GraceG
The heavy water that the reactor uses can be poured out in the street and is very much non toxic, i just wouldn’t drink more than 1 gallon of it a day for more than a week.

Neutron capture reactions in the deuterium breed a fair amount of tritium. While tritium emits very weak beta particles, it has a 12 year half-life. So you probably don't want to spill it, or drink a lot of it for a long time.

49 posted on 03/18/2011 1:06:33 PM PDT by chimera
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To: Chaguito

Sigh...you may be right. I kind of expected him to close some and then declare nuclear energy is dead in the U.S. so anything less seemed like a good deal!


50 posted on 03/18/2011 1:06:51 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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