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Rudy Giuliani: Time to bury the birthers
Politico ^ | 03/18/11 | MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 03/18/2011 4:50:15 PM PDT by nhwingut

MANCHESTER, N.H. — A day after Donald Trump raised questions about President Barack Obama’s citizenship, Rudy Giuliani on Friday swatted down the "birthers" as a waste of time, saying it's "clear" the president was born in America.

The former New York City mayor — making his first trip to New Hampshire of the 2012 presidential cycle as he weighs another run for the White House — made the comments to POLITICO just before he spoke at the Manchester GOP Lincoln Day dinner here.

"He's born in the United States, I don't see any real question about that," Giuliani said. "And even if some people have some doubts in the back of their minds it's really too late and futile. ... We have so many more important things to talk about."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; birthers; certifigate; donaldtrump; dufus; giuliani; naturalborncitizen; nocureforstupid; obama; rino; rudy
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Rudy joins O'Reilly as a select group who have the proof. Apparently.
1 posted on 03/18/2011 4:50:18 PM PDT by nhwingut
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To: nhwingut; admin

BTW: I forgot to check the excerpt box.

Story link is http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51575.html


2 posted on 03/18/2011 4:52:12 PM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: nhwingut

Unbelievable.


3 posted on 03/18/2011 4:52:12 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: nhwingut

Oh well gee, that’s different. NOW i’ll vote for rudy for prez...NOT!

Get lost dufus.


4 posted on 03/18/2011 4:52:30 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: nhwingut

regardless of any position on this,

NYC stupid is a terminal to brain cells.


5 posted on 03/18/2011 4:53:11 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: nhwingut
Gent bent Rudy, you POS.

-FURG-

6 posted on 03/18/2011 4:53:13 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: nhwingut

Rudy shoots himself in the foot - and in other news...


7 posted on 03/18/2011 4:53:16 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (They do not wish to govern us, they wish to RULE us!)
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To: nhwingut

Show me proof and I will go away.


8 posted on 03/18/2011 4:53:21 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (Hope and change is share the poverty.)
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To: nhwingut

The RINOS have their marching orders.


9 posted on 03/18/2011 4:54:19 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: nhwingut
It doesn't even matter whether he was born in the U.S. or not.

What does matter is whether he or his mother expatriated him, where his father is from and whether he was a citizen or not, and anything else that goes to the matter of LOYALTY.

We aren't free when a man who is not loyal to our nation rules us. This is precisely why the Founders put that clause in the Constitution: no foreign despot was going to be brought in to rule over them because he would have no qualms about treating the populace ruthlessly.

Which is exactly what Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro Whatever is doing.

10 posted on 03/18/2011 4:54:50 PM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: nhwingut

What Giuliani is saying is that the constitutional crime the Kenyan Impostor committed is too large to prosecute.

I am a birther.


11 posted on 03/18/2011 4:55:31 PM PDT by y6162
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To: nhwingut

You notice Rudy did not have the cojones to confront Trump head on. He does not want the Rosie O’Donnell Ghetto beatdown. It would appear that neither does anybody in the MSM as I have not heard even Miss Chrissy Matthews open his yap about The Donald today.

Rudy Guiliani needs to go home and retire. He is no conservative. He ran a sanctuary city, his law firm represented that Mexican firm Cinta who was supposed to get the contract to run the Texas Corridor. Rudy is Mr. North American Union, Free Trade NWO. If you are a conservative run for the nearest exit. I could barf from it.


12 posted on 03/18/2011 4:57:19 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: nhwingut

Best bet if you don’t want to face reality, is just to say “I don’t think it’s an issue” and leave it at that

To give legitimacy to his lack to present proof, in fact, his resistance to provide proof, only encourages such behavior and makes your potential supporters the objects of ridicule

IOW, just SHUT UP if you don’t want to go there.


13 posted on 03/18/2011 4:57:56 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("Celebrate 'Civility'")
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To: nhwingut

It’s clear that Julie-Annie doesn’t understand the issue or definition of NBC.


14 posted on 03/18/2011 4:58:18 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: nhwingut

“....saying it’s “clear” the president was born in America.”

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Like everyone else, Rudy is blowing smoke and intentionally circumventing a very important reality — Hussein’s old man was NEVER a US citizen.

This means that Hussein is NOT a natural born citizen.

Why is it that so many of our ‘leaders’ are afraid of our Constitution?


15 posted on 03/18/2011 5:03:52 PM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism = Communism under the guise of compassion.)
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To: nhwingut

Psst...Rudi. Rule of Law, Constitution, Eligibility Clause, NBC. Check them out. NOT whether he was born in the USA.


16 posted on 03/18/2011 5:06:38 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: nhwingut
$20, 5 minutes of filling out a simple form and a postage stamp can make this go away forever...
17 posted on 03/18/2011 5:08:36 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 786 of our national holiday from reality. - It's never 3 AM at the White Hut)
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To: nhwingut

What do you know, Rudy? What do you actually know?


18 posted on 03/18/2011 5:09:47 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: nhwingut

See, everyone? Rudy is smarter than us.

We’re too stupid to see how clear this all is.

How condescending can you get?!?!?!


19 posted on 03/18/2011 5:10:59 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: nhwingut

If he said “I come to bury the birthers, not to praise them” it might be OK to hear how the rest went. I’m sure it stopped there, however.


20 posted on 03/18/2011 5:11:45 PM PDT by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: nhwingut

If he said “I come to bury the birthers, not to praise them” it might be OK to hear how the rest went. I’m sure it stopped there, however.


21 posted on 03/18/2011 5:11:57 PM PDT by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: nhwingut

anyone that thinks its clear is either shilling for 0bama and the progressives... or hasn’t seen the information and should STFU

which is it?


22 posted on 03/18/2011 5:12:09 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: nhwingut

Hey Rudy,

Have you seen his real Birth Certificate?

Have you?

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I didn’t think so.


23 posted on 03/18/2011 5:12:42 PM PDT by eCSMaster (2012 - End of an error)
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To: y6162

It certainly looks more likely than not that Obama is not a natural born citizen. Call me pretty much convinced.


24 posted on 03/18/2011 5:16:08 PM PDT by tatown (Obama is a turd)
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To: yldstrk
Unbelievable.

Um, it's Rudy. What is unbelievable?

25 posted on 03/18/2011 5:18:40 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: nhwingut

A group so select it leaves out Obama’s good friend, HI Governor Neil Abercrombie, who has admitted to the Star Advertiser that an investigation found that what they have is in the Archives rather than in the Vital Records Office and not likely to convince people that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Right after he said that the media and RINO’s went on a charge to say how stupid it is for anybody to have questions about Obama’s documentation. Revealing to anybody who was paying attention just how pathetic the media and RINO’s really are. And how willing to lie to us while overlooking criminal activity on the part of those covering for Obama.

Those who don’t understand the importance of the rule of law are not fit to be leaders at this point in America’s history, when we need to re-establish the rule of law in a very big way, if it’s not too late.


26 posted on 03/18/2011 5:18:44 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: y6162
What Giuliani is saying is that the constitutional crime the Kenyan Impostor committed is too large to prosecute.

I am a birther.


I think you are right. The more I look at it, the more it is clear that Politico is spinning hard on this one.

First the headline is way off. Second if you look at the quote there is an ellipsis used. Rudy clearly expounded, which they left out. And it was probably close to what you are stating.
27 posted on 03/18/2011 5:20:22 PM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: nhwingut

Dear Rudy, Dear BO ... just a quick question, How many SSN’s do each of you have?

Jus askin

TT


28 posted on 03/18/2011 5:23:33 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is real islam. Moderate islam is the trojan horse.)
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To: nhwingut

You’re never going to be President, Rudy, you can get up off your knees, now.


29 posted on 03/18/2011 5:27:46 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: nhwingut

Then they need to show the proof. Just saying it does not make it so.


30 posted on 03/18/2011 5:29:56 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: nhwingut
It doesn't matter where bambi was born ... his father (or, at least the guy that's presumed to be his father) Barak Hussein Obama Sr. was a foreign born national ... a Kenyan, and at the time, a British subject. Obama Jr. doesn't qualify under the U.S. Constitution to become President ... period. End of story ...
31 posted on 03/18/2011 5:32:09 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: nhwingut

This is where I was happy to see Trump having fun with the Obama legitimacy.

Trumpster is serving the role of celebrity lightning rod.
These are useful to raise public consciousness while candidates stay above the fray.

Republicans typically lack this advantage because most celebrities are leftists.


32 posted on 03/18/2011 5:33:55 PM PDT by nascarnation
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I didn’t get that. What I got is that nobody in authority is going to hold this man to the fire, so we might as well move onto other things.

I know a person who is conservative with a capital C; her opinion is that even if it is proven he isn’t from the US, the elite will protect him because the Powerful protect the powerful. The Republicans are not really on the side of anyone who shakes up the power structure; look how they are hitting Palin from both sides.

People like OReilly and Guiliani just see nothing good out of chasing this down; they don’t want to get sidetracked. I’ll bet a lot of powerful Pubs are birthers and just won’t get caught up in it.

Obama’s legacy will be damaged by this; but nobody of power out there today has the cajones to pursue it.


33 posted on 03/18/2011 5:35:17 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: nhwingut

We have so many more important things to talk about.
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LOL. Yes we do Rudy. How about that important thing called the 2012 Presidential election between a real conservative and a guy who has lied to us about the circumstances of his birth. Prove that he lied and coast to victory.

That is obvious to Trump and Michele. Hopefully the GOP nominee will realize it as well. Run on the Birther issue. Let them laugh all they want. Pound them with Where Is the Birth Certificate ads. Make them address the issue. What fun that would be. We would run out of popcorn here on FR.


34 posted on 03/18/2011 5:37:11 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: nhwingut

Shut up, Rudy!


35 posted on 03/18/2011 5:37:14 PM PDT by IbJensen (Grab your pitchforks!)
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To: nhwingut

Oh Rudy. You could have been a contender. Now you are all washed up.


36 posted on 03/18/2011 5:47:59 PM PDT by Harley (Will Rogers never met Harry Reid.)
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To: null and void
$20, 5 minutes of filling out a simple form and a postage stamp can make this go away forever...

No it will not make it go away.

Only an absolute IDIOT would think that the Community Organizer playing President has a birth certificate. Sending Hawaii $2 million would not make it go away.

37 posted on 03/18/2011 5:49:33 PM PDT by politicianslie (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders)
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To: nhwingut
Rudy's confused about his own birth, I think.


38 posted on 03/18/2011 5:53:21 PM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Because The Donald would have just two words ‘Prove It’ The silece from the MSM is deafening. I wonder if Trump is really gonna force the issue.


39 posted on 03/18/2011 5:54:46 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Because The Donald would have just two words ‘Prove It’ The silece from the MSM is deafening. I wonder if Trump is really gonna force the issue.


40 posted on 03/18/2011 5:55:04 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Because The Donald would have just two words ‘Prove It’ The silece from the MSM is deafening. I wonder if Trump is really gonna force the issue.


41 posted on 03/18/2011 5:55:23 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: nhwingut

Better to keep ones mouth shut and be thought a loser than to open it and remove all doubt.


42 posted on 03/18/2011 5:55:41 PM PDT by McGruff (Drill, Baby, Drill.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Because The Donald would have just two words ‘Prove It’ The silece from the MSM is deafening. I wonder if Trump is really gonna force the issue.


43 posted on 03/18/2011 5:56:18 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Best bet if you don’t want to face reality, is just to say “I don’t think it’s an issue” and leave it at that

Or, considering that he is a lawyer, "I haven't seen any evidence to convince me one way or the other."

44 posted on 03/18/2011 5:59:50 PM PDT by truthkeeper ( Life is a pre-existing condition - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: nhwingut
And even if some people have some doubts in the back of their minds it's really too late and futile.

Way to defend the constitution Rudy, you POS.

45 posted on 03/18/2011 6:01:02 PM PDT by The Cajun
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To: I still care

I think that’s the most important point. It’s simply a loser of an issue, and serves no purpose but as a distraction. He’s never going to show a BC, most simply because he doesn’t have to.

Even if he presented a BC now, the birthers wouldn’t believe it anyway, and it’s doing him a lot more good to let them spin off into the fringe and get ever more strident and lunatic. Having the birthers out there is *good* for Obama and there’s nothing he’d want to do to stop them.


46 posted on 03/18/2011 6:02:26 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: nhwingut
I am so angry at the way all of the main Republican Contenders are too frightened to give this issue the attention it should have. This includes Palin and West, my two favorites.

Just imagine if it was Palin hiding her background. You reckon all the Democrats would be saying it was no issue??

Stop allowing Obama's mainstream media soldiers to set the agenda.

Fact-Obama Has Never Demonstrated His Constitutional Eligibility.

47 posted on 03/18/2011 6:05:25 PM PDT by wistful
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To: Ramius

Until this wad in the WH produces his REAL birth certificate and all his other hidden background, he will NOT convince anyone that he’s an American, either by birth or his actions!


48 posted on 03/18/2011 6:05:44 PM PDT by Never2baCrat
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To: Georgia Girl 2
"I have not heard even Miss Chrissy Matthews open his yap about The Donald today".

I guess that some of you missed this!

Matthews Rips The Donald

49 posted on 03/18/2011 6:07:07 PM PDT by freejohn
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To: bjorn14

See post #49.


50 posted on 03/18/2011 6:08:58 PM PDT by freejohn
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