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WE HAVE STARTED ANOTHER WAR
boblonsberry.com ^ | 03/21/11 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 03/22/2011 5:07:54 AM PDT by shortstop

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To: Red Badger

Freep Mail


41 posted on 03/22/2011 7:16:41 AM PDT by angcat
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To: Red Badger
Good, you remember it. You should. But we've had four presidents since Reagan and before 0bama and how many Congresses? and none of them has had any interest in revenge on Qaddafi for Lockerbie. And 0bama has said nothing about Lockerbie. In fact we know that he approved, behind the scenes, the release of the Lockerbie bomber from Scotland. Amd he has said that Qaddafi is not a target.

The POTUS has just violated the Constitution and the War Powers Act which puts us smack into a military junta standing as a nation. You might worry a little more about that than your lust for revenge.

42 posted on 03/22/2011 7:20:38 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: bgill

The only thing Barry has left is his base and now they are turning on him.


43 posted on 03/22/2011 7:21:33 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: shortstop

I never saw where Obama obtained congressional approval for his war nor where Libya was a threat to the US requiring military response.

Obama is a War Criminal for starting an Illegal War!


44 posted on 03/22/2011 7:36:27 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: shortstop

This is why you don’t give a man-child the reigns to the military...he doesn’t know when to use it.


45 posted on 03/22/2011 7:38:26 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: shortstop

I believe the main reason we got into this mess was to help Europe keep Libyan oil flowing to them. So what’s in it for us, or rather, what’s in it for 0bama and his minions? That’s the $64,000 question. This is a REAL Blood for Oil war imo, not the phoney charge they hung on Bush’s neck.


46 posted on 03/22/2011 7:48:29 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: hoosierham

yes!!

How did the 17th amendment change the way Senators are elected?

The 17th Amendment to the US Constitution was ratified in 1913

State Legislatures, who were expert in the state's business, and who kept day to day tabs on the state's representatives to the  Federal government, were the one's who the founding fathers had elect the Senators. This relationship protected the state's interests against the Federal government's interests.

The 17th amendment did away with that working relationship and made 'the people' responsible for keeping tabs on the federal reps also. (But it did not change the length of the senator's terms. Who can keep track of what these guys are doing for 6 years?)

This amendment has resulted in, as the framers predicted, a national government with influence, power and control unchecked by any political mechanism.

The original U.S. Constitution gave state governments a strong voice in the national government by requiring them to select U.S. Senators - to serve much like ambassadors today at the United Nations - and thus created the U.S. Congress to be a political (not judicial) venue for the competition between state government interests and national government interests.

Consider that those in state government claim a responsibility to address questions in the areas of taxation, education, employment, disaster relief, public safety, transportation, health care, marriage, and property rights, to name but a few. Yet all of those issues, and far more, are now primarily mandated, regulated, or directed out of Washington, DC, far away from the people being impacted by those policies. While the state governments bear much of the responsibility for their citizens, they have only secondary authority to do anything about the issues they face. When federal courts decline, as they frequently do, to interpret the 10th Amendment as protecting the sovereignty of states, without a voice in the U.S. Senate the states have no recourse. Repealing the 17th would address this deficiency.

Read more: http://www.restorefederalism.org/?gclid=CK6xks_14qcCFYxd5Qodpi739w


47 posted on 03/22/2011 1:07:16 PM PDT by antonia (A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. - Edward R. Murrow)
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To: null and void

Your logic is mindless.


48 posted on 03/22/2011 1:58:47 PM PDT by Arcy
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To: Red Badger
You want war with Libya because they knocked down an aircraft decades ago right?

How about the war right here, right under your nose?

How about the war on the Texas/Mexico border and the thousands being killed?

How about the hundreds of thousands murdered, robbed, raped, wounded, run over, shot, stabbed, and burglarized American victim of this violent invasion of millions of Mexicans invading the U.S.?

What about this epic lawless murder and violence?

49 posted on 03/22/2011 2:06:03 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

A good president would do all of the above.
We did send the army into Mexico to get Pancho Villa.
We did send the military into Panama after Craterface.
We do have the means to protect our borders, we just dont have any leaders with the necessary genitalia to actually do it.
We apparently didnt have any concrete evidence against Qadafi until one of his former ambassadors spilled the beans. That alone should have given us enough reason to go into Libya to get him. Murder of 270 people is a crime without expiration date.......


50 posted on 03/22/2011 3:30:56 PM PDT by Red Badger (How can anyone look at the situation in Libya and be for gun control is beyond stupid. It's suicide.)
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To: Red Badger

Then we agree, Bush was just another lousy President.


51 posted on 03/22/2011 4:09:34 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Well hell, everyone can’t be perfecty like obama. According to his disciples and worshippers, even Jesus and Almighty God fall short when compared to thir messiah. And probably Gore or Kerry would have made a better President.


52 posted on 03/22/2011 4:14:51 PM PDT by sport
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To: Red Badger
According to President Bush who signed the executive order, Qadaffi had already legally paid his dues for the Pan Am bombing. Since then Qadaffi was a participant in the war against Al Qaeda.

To imply we can bomb Qadaffi for Pan Am is an implication that tomorrow we can bomb Japan for Pearl Harbor.

53 posted on 03/22/2011 6:58:32 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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That was before we found out that he, personally, ordered the bombing, not just that it was planned and carried out in his country, by some of his agents. That makes him a conspirator in murder. Unless Bush signed a full pardon, that would make him unprosecutable in the US, would it be non casus belli. The UK, Scotland, and any other country that had people on that illfated flight, would have reason enough to prosecute him as well.....


54 posted on 03/22/2011 7:36:00 PM PDT by Red Badger (How can anyone look at the situation in Libya and be for gun control is beyond stupid. It's suicide.)
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To: Red Badger

Unfortunately Obama did not get that memo. He says we’re there for another reason.


55 posted on 03/22/2011 7:38:36 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Red Badger
Anyways, we agree about Qadaffi's evilness.

I think it's stupid to be hitting a hornets nest if you have no will to destroy the hornets when they awaken and are now angry.

Americans tourists will again be sitting ducks on 747s. Thank to this action.

56 posted on 03/22/2011 7:44:18 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

I suspect the ‘reason’ is poll numbers........


57 posted on 03/22/2011 7:50:52 PM PDT by Red Badger (How can anyone look at the situation in Libya and be for gun control is beyond stupid. It's suicide.)
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To: tsowellfan

With all the uber security nowadays, that is a remote possibility. The coalition seems to be fractured and will fall apart without American leadership, which we have none at the present time......


58 posted on 03/22/2011 7:53:41 PM PDT by Red Badger (How can anyone look at the situation in Libya and be for gun control is beyond stupid. It's suicide.)
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To: shortstop

Having capitulated on one, and become mired in another, we start yet a third.


Spot on!!


59 posted on 03/22/2011 7:56:39 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: shortstop
...a country that had done us no harm, inflicted no hurt.

Whoa right there, Bob. There are a lot of families missing members who were on a certain airliner over Lockerbie, Scotland, who would disagree rather heartily with that statement.

60 posted on 03/22/2011 8:19:09 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Oh, well, any excuse to buy a new gun is good enough for me.)
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