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Iraq vs. Libya: Obama Takes a Swipe at Bush for… What Exactly?
michelle Malkin ^ | 3/22/2011 | doug Powers

Posted on 03/23/2011 5:35:59 AM PDT by Lakeshark

President Obama, Nobel Peace Prize winner, launched an attack on another country while in another country, without the congressional approval that George W. Bush had and with only about half as many other countries on board. Obama seemed to feel this constituted enough of a moral high ground from which to take a jab at the former president. *snip*

As the folks at Fox quickly pointed out, Bush actually had twice as many international allies for the invasion of Iraq as Obama has put together for his adventure in Libya.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bds; doh; irony; odumbo
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To: tsowellfan

Doesn’t this also slap those coalition partners who also lost men in the fight?

This “man” has NO political skills and we will not have a friend left in the world when he’s done, which I hope is soon.


21 posted on 03/23/2011 6:01:04 AM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Lakeshark

NOT the lead story on NBC Nightly News with Brian Twistedface.


22 posted on 03/23/2011 6:02:06 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: tsowellfan

Kosovo?


23 posted on 03/23/2011 6:02:12 AM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: FrogMom

Kosovo?

You’re right! I forgot that one!


24 posted on 03/23/2011 6:02:59 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Lakeshark

I am soon sick ofs Obama the sniveler! I think this coke snorting usurper needs te campaigno be hounded on the campaign trail “macaca style” and asked the tight questions...where were you born? Who’s your daddy? How many times did you use coke? Did you use other hard drugs? Describe your relationship with Kal Penn? Have you had other intimate relationships with males? Did Ayers write your books? Did you use a fake ssn for fraudulent school funding? Did you use Indonesian citizenship for fraudulent purposes?


25 posted on 03/23/2011 6:03:53 AM PDT by databoss
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To: Lakeshark

Of course, he means France. We didn’t have France on board last time. Now we do. “Old Europe” signing on means we are multi-lateral. The fact that a Chirac would not be signing on to this Libya action doesn’t enter his empty head.


26 posted on 03/23/2011 6:04:40 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("The time will come when Winter will ask you what you were doing all Summer" -- Henry Clay)
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To: tsowellfan
I can't remember anything like this. Viet Nam at least was an attempt to stop Communism from taking over Asia (domino theory), this Libya war (oops, not war) doesn't even have a pretense of a national security issue for us.
27 posted on 03/23/2011 6:05:34 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: FrogMom
Doesn’t this also slap those coalition partners who also lost men in the fight?

Very good point. Maybe this was all a set up by UK and the others to get back at him. These leaders can see right through him. They barf when they watch him in speeches. It is indeed a slap to all of them.

28 posted on 03/23/2011 6:06:04 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Lakeshark

Yes, even Vietnam could be argued as national security.

Somebody did just tell me “Kosovo” I didn’t think of that one.


29 posted on 03/23/2011 6:07:32 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: FrogMom; tsowellfan
Kosovo?

That's the closest, I think you nailed it.

30 posted on 03/23/2011 6:10:05 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: databoss
LOL.

That would be a treat. I doubt present Odumbo would allow that. Secret Service would detain people left and right......

31 posted on 03/23/2011 6:12:37 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: tsowellfan
Have you ever noticed Obama's speeches when he's talking about an ongoing issue and the actions he's taking at the given moment he never fails to add "In the past..." or "Under the last administration..." and criticizes the Republican President or the GOP on how they had dealt with that same particular problem / issue.

Good observation -- but I think we can be more specific, and actually see an evolution of this little rhetorical technique.

When Obama first became president, he referred to mistakes made "over the past eight years".
As time went on, this became awkward, since his own track record became included in the 8-year span, while Bush's initial time in office dropped out of consideration. At this point, Obama started talking about problems "over the past 10 years".
Now Obama is in his third year. It's harder to make the allusion which he wants to make -- but he does so by now saying "in the past".

It's quite childish, but that's the sort of person he is.

32 posted on 03/23/2011 6:14:58 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Sacajaweau; All

Not only is Libya not comparable to Iraq, it had actually become a non-hostile power that was occasionally helpful in the WOT, mainly, IMHO, because Quaddafi didn’t want AQ and MB challenging his own powwer. Thus we had a ruthless despot who’d keep his people under control and help us. Now the Illegal has changed all that and turned a helpful state that we didn’t have to spend anything on into a hostile state sthat will be an endless bleeding sore, just like Iraq and Afganistan. Doing that took a man of either exceptional stupidity or malevolence. My bet is on malevolence because he’s doing his best to promote the other AQ and MB revolts thoughout the Mideast. In othe swords, he’s a traitor who needs to be impeached and removed from office.


33 posted on 03/23/2011 6:16:54 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: ClearCase_guy

Very interestng observation


34 posted on 03/23/2011 6:24:43 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: tsowellfan
Vietnam started out with the Gulf of Tonkin Resoluion that resulted from a North Vietnamese attack on some of our ships. We also had a defininte natinal security interest in not seeing that part of Asia turn communist.

The difference here is that Libya did nothing to attack us or challenge our vital interests. Indeed, it was pretty much the opposite in that Libya abandoned its nuclear program in 2003 after the Iraq invasion, stopped sponsaoring terrorism, and even gave us occcasional help in dealing with AQ and the MB. Thus, we have an utterly poiontless attack on a non-hostile power that's turned it into a hostile one and assured us an endless bleeding sore, much like Iraq and Afganistan.

35 posted on 03/23/2011 6:25:08 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: ClearCase_guy; tsowellfan

Speaking of childish, another ironic moment from the past: http://wolffiles.blogspot.com/2011/03/joe-biden-war-without-congressional.html


36 posted on 03/23/2011 6:26:36 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: libstripper

Exactly!

Qadaffi’s been struggling to keep Al Qaeda in check in Libya for a long time now. They’ve tried to assassinate Qadaffi several times and have been trying to take control of Libya. That’s most likely the main reason why Qadaffi join and participated in our war against Al Qaeda.

Now that the marines appear to be on their way to Libya we may be shedding US blood to put in power the very same people reported to have left eastern Libya to go fight and kill our soldiers in Iraq during the Iraqi War.


37 posted on 03/23/2011 6:31:25 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: tsowellfan
Now is the time for right-wing operatives to start the anti-Øbongo PR whisper campaign......

(Psssst. "Wag the dog")

Even if not literally true it will serve to further unsettle his lackeys, minions, and suck-ups and put them (more) on the defensive. Now is the time.

(Psssst. "Wag the dog")

38 posted on 03/23/2011 6:46:13 AM PDT by rockrr ("Remember PATCO!")
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To: libstripper

Did a lot of reading prior for our Vietnam trip this year. Re Tonkin and an attack on our ships:

In 2005, an internal National Security Agency historical study was declassified; it concluded[7] that the Maddox had engaged the North Vietnamese Navy on August 2, but that there may not have been any North Vietnamese Naval vessels present during the incident of August 4. The report stated:

[I]t is not simply that there is a different story as to what happened; it is that no attack happened that night. [...] In truth, Hanoi’s navy was engaged in nothing that night but the salvage of two of the boats damaged on August 2.[8]

So you are correct that this incident, whatever it was, did seem to propel us into that war in Vietnam.

Seems like the Middle East has become a real powder keg and we look like we have no leadership to deal with it.


39 posted on 03/23/2011 6:51:23 AM PDT by pugmama
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To: Lakeshark

40 posted on 03/23/2011 6:53:58 AM PDT by McBuff
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