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What to Make of SEIU Official's Supposed Socialist Fantasy Plan ("destabilize the country")
The Atlantic Wire ^ | 3/22/11 | John Hudson

Posted on 03/23/2011 10:26:14 AM PDT by Libloather

What to Make of SEIU Official's Supposed Socialist Fantasy Plan
By John Hudson Mar 22, 2011

A new tape posted on Glenn Beck's political website, The Blaze, purportedly shows a former Service Employees International Union official sharing plans to "destabilize the country."

In the seven-minute video, a voice that sounds like Stephen Lerner, the former director of private equity at the SEIU pictured above, details plans to "bring down the stock market," bankrupt major U.S. banks and create an environment where a weakened financial sector cedes power to union organizers and the middle class in general.

The talk purportedly happened at a closed session at Pace University over the weekend. The plan, which smacks of socialist fantasy, is to bankrupt the nation's banks by convincing students, homeowners and city and state governments to stop paying their loans in a coordinated debt strike.

Given past episodes of "shocking" recordings proving less shocking upon review, as well as The Blaze's strong conservative leanings, this should probably be taken with a deep dose of skepticism. That said, earlier this month, The Blaze did publish a fair-minded report on the misleading editing job of James O'Keefe's NPR sting, which shifted the public perception of the hit job.

Business Insider's Henry Blodget has picked the up the Stephen Lerner story though noting that he couldn't verify Lerner's voice.

What saith Media Matters, the liberal watchdog group that makes a habit out of aggressively dismissing such videos? Thus far the group is just posting stand-alone excerpts from Glenn Beck's show this morning. We'll update if anything more comes of Lerner's anti-capitalist coup plans. Here's the video:

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlanticwire.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banking; corruption; democrats; economy; fantasy; fraud; lerner; liberalfascism; liberals; obamasminions; plan; progressives; seiu; socialism; socialist; socialistdemocrats; stephenlerner; unions
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To: Libloather

If this Lerner guy is personally invested in any of the companies he proposes to disrupt, isn’t there some securities restriction prohibiting such behavior?


21 posted on 03/23/2011 11:05:03 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Terry Mross

“Skepticism? Why doesn’t the reporter simply call the guy and ask him? Has the socialist denied it?”

That would be way too easy. And besides, the reporter may get an answer that he doesn’t want to hear.

To my knowledge Stephen Lehrner has not confirmed or denied anything yet. The silence from the SEIU, White House, Homeland Security, and the US Justice Department is deafening.


22 posted on 03/23/2011 11:06:50 AM PDT by MNGal
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To: Libloather
Sounds to me as if Learner is calling for the destruction of every union pension plan, stealing every penny from workers 401k plans and giving it to people who never saved a dime while also eliminating every private sector job in the United States -- and I suppose their unions along with them.

That's is exactly what would happen if he were to succeed in his economic terrorism.

23 posted on 03/23/2011 11:08:13 AM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Jack Black

I didn’t hear Rush give Beck any credit for exposing this story. I thought this was a bit small of Rush...IMHO


24 posted on 03/23/2011 11:11:41 AM PDT by red tie
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To: Libloather

None dare call it treason.


25 posted on 03/23/2011 11:12:34 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: Libloather

Question: Why do Leftists believe that a “Cloward Piven Strategy” would work out in their favor??

I mean, if the US Gov’t, Banks and Fed collapse, people would be forced to fend for themselves, rely on family and local communities, instead of relying on Washington. There would be no more printed FED greenbacks to pay for Union thugs and their adolescent followers in academia. There would be no more welfare or entitlements for them to suck off, and most of the gun-owners in the USA are conservatives.

I don’t think the Left has thought this through....


26 posted on 03/23/2011 11:23:48 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: Libloather

Stephen Lerner apparently lives in DC, quite close to Walter Reed Hospital.

If only there was a group of patriots in that vicinity to FReep him...


27 posted on 03/23/2011 11:27:08 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Dr.Deth

I am Jack’s “Socialist Fantasy”.


28 posted on 03/23/2011 11:51:44 AM PDT by PENANCE
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To: PENANCE

Speaking of which, isn’t the term “Socialist Fantasy” a redundancy?


29 posted on 03/23/2011 11:53:07 AM PDT by PENANCE
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To: classified

That doesn’t mean it they will stop. Still might work.

The trick is getting enough people to willingly default. Remember they have been pushing this for well over a year (remember all the strategic default articles?) and it hasn’t happened yet.


30 posted on 03/23/2011 11:58:41 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: PGR88

“I don’t think the Left has thought this through....”

The Left never does, and would never understand why they became the target of reprisals.


31 posted on 03/23/2011 12:04:37 PM PDT by east1234 (Cut, Kill, Dig and Drill!)
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To: Libloather

32 posted on 03/23/2011 12:13:31 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: Libloather

See what happens when the mental institutions are shut down?

(IMHO)


33 posted on 03/23/2011 12:21:08 PM PDT by ripley
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To: red tie

I don’t think Glenn cares too much about getting credit.


34 posted on 03/23/2011 12:21:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Ditto

“Sounds to me as if Learner is calling for the destruction of every union pension plan, stealing every penny from workers 401k plans and giving it to people who never saved a dime while also eliminating every private sector job in the United States — and I suppose their unions along with them.
That’s is exactly what would happen if he were to succeed in his economic terrorism.”

It would allow the further “socialization” of America, the coming police state will shortly be behind it. They think that they will be rewarded with the spoils of victory, while the rest of us will have our homes and accounts stolen. The age of serfdom by computers will not be far away.


35 posted on 03/23/2011 12:32:20 PM PDT by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: paguch

The Poor, The Elites, The Government and The Unions ALL want to destroy the middle class, and they are succeeding.

The destruction of the largest middle class in history and the middle classes largest asset, a home, continues. The destruction of jobs began long ago, and now the next generation will have a bleak future. Never mind the outlawing of being independent in our energy. And the dumbing down of the majority of the middle class.

They are almost done.


36 posted on 03/23/2011 12:38:11 PM PDT by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: PGR88
The left has indeed thought this through quite thoroughly over milena.

It is possible that you may not understand the true goal.

It is quite simple:

1. They want to die.

2. They want to watch everyone else die first.

3. Achieve goal 2 by any mechanism available to guarantee goal 1. It sounds quite insane. No one will want to believe it. therefore its historical sustainability. It is a guilt thing.

37 posted on 03/23/2011 12:44:23 PM PDT by mmercier
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To: South40

The Judge who put a hold on the Wisconsin law putting the brakes on unions has a son who is an SEIU official.


38 posted on 03/23/2011 12:52:51 PM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: cripplecreek

Hilary, Mike Moore and Trump are demanding their wealth be confiscated first.


39 posted on 03/23/2011 1:08:52 PM PDT by Waco (From Seward to Sara)
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To: cripplecreek

You’ll note Rush gives credit to writers but he seldom,
if ever, gives credit to another radio competitor for
breaking or promoting a story before him.


40 posted on 03/23/2011 1:27:20 PM PDT by red tie
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