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San Francisco becoming a child-free zone as youth population declines
sfexaminer ^ | 3/23/2011 | Joshua Sabatini

Posted on 03/23/2011 2:52:57 PM PDT by longtermmemmory

Despite efforts to stem the tide of family flight, the population of children in San Francisco continues to ebb.

Families that remain in The City are bucking the trend that has plagued San Francisco for years as the number of children — defined as people up to 17 years old — has dropped from 181,532 in 1960 to 107,524 today, according to the latest U.S. Census Bureau figures. The 2000 census counted 112,802 youths.

The decrease is disappointing news for city officials, who have attempted to counter the family-flight trend by creating more affordable housing, improving schools and cutting costs, such as a college savings account for kindergarten enrollees.

“It’s definitely not a hopeful sign that we have 5,000 less kids,” said N’Tanya Lee, the executive director of San Francisco-based advocacy group Coleman Advocates for Children and Youth, which lobbies City Hall on budget and housing issues.

The census has yet to release a more detailed age breakdown of The City’s youth population.

A 2009 controller’s survey found families with children were no longer more likely to leave The City than other people, with the exception of families with children under the age of 6.

“The percentage of parents with young children considering a move has increased from 36 percent in 2007 to 41 percent in 2009 — though it remains lower than the 45 percent in 2005,” the report said.

“I’m very surprised,” said Margaret Brodkin, the former head of the Department Children, Youth and Their Families. “I thought we had finally turned the corner in being a more child-friendly city and keeping families in The City.”

Brodkin suggested the count might be off because it failed to account for a number of undocumented youths.

Omar Khalif, who is a proponent of a ballot measure to advise changing the campus-assignment system to ensure kids can attend school closer to home, is a father of four daughters who lives in the Bayview district. He said he’s not surprised by the trends.

“This is no longer a blue-collar town,” Khalif said. “You don’t have families moving here.”

As for what The City could do to make it easier on families to survive in San Francisco?

“How about giving families a tax break?” said Khalif, referring to the proposal to offer a payroll tax break on new hires for companies willing to locate to the mid-Market Street area. “Here we are living paycheck to paycheck.”

Mayor Ed Lee’s spokeswoman Christine Falvey said Lee has been meeting with family services organizations as he drafts a budget for next fiscal year.

“Mayor Lee is committed to keeping families in San Francisco,” Falvey said. “He is focused on job creation and economic development, two very real factors in keeping families in San Francisco.”

jsabatini@sfexaminer.com

Efforts to keep families from splitting town - 1,942 affordable-housing units currently in planning or under construction are targeted specifically for very low- and low-income families. - Kindergarten to College: Every student who is enrolled in kindergarten receives a college savings account with an initial $50 deposit from The City. - BenefitsSF.org: The City’s new multilingual public benefits website provides eligibility screening and electronic applications for food stamps and affordable health coverage in English, Spanish and Mandarin. - After-school programs: Most have access to after-school programs, and youth participants report satisfaction with those programs.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: children; homosexualagenda; hostile; sanfrancisco
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Notice how the article deftly skips the sex fetish promotion of san francisco.

The rampant on the street drug selling and paraphanalia selling. The out of control focus on recreational sex.

It is just not a place to raise children.

1 posted on 03/23/2011 2:53:08 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: longtermmemmory

This really IS for the children! ;)


2 posted on 03/23/2011 2:54:19 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Perhaps there is something flawed with gay procreation methodology.


3 posted on 03/23/2011 2:55:56 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: longtermmemmory
Brodkin suggested the count might be off because it failed to account for a number of undocumented youths.

Hang in there, San Freakcisco, you might get a shot at those little Mexican kids.

4 posted on 03/23/2011 2:56:07 PM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: longtermmemmory

Detroit West!


5 posted on 03/23/2011 2:56:15 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: longtermmemmory

Quick, let’s move in more illegal aliens and educate them so they can be taxpayers. Oh, they want to work for the Government too? D@MN!


6 posted on 03/23/2011 2:57:21 PM PDT by poobear (FACTS - the turd in the punch bowl of liberal thought!)
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To: longtermmemmory

I wonder how many teachers got laid off?


7 posted on 03/23/2011 2:58:40 PM PDT by tom paine 2
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To: longtermmemmory

The snotty liberals HATE children. They want to ban anything children do, say, play with, or eat.

Remember, San Fran banned Happy Meals.


8 posted on 03/23/2011 2:59:25 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: longtermmemmory

This is a good thing. No child should be raised in San Francisco.


9 posted on 03/23/2011 3:00:20 PM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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To: longtermmemmory

It shouldn’t be anywhere near 107,524! There should be exactly 0 children in San Francisco.

A child is better off being brutally killed than to spend one year in that horrible city.


10 posted on 03/23/2011 3:01:23 PM PDT by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: All

it’s a good thing to keep children away from pedophiles... and by that i don’t mean to say all fags are pedophiles.


11 posted on 03/23/2011 3:02:48 PM PDT by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: longtermmemmory
They're just looking for new victims.

Not being a good place for children was my main objection to buying a house in the city.

You don't want kids anywhere near those whackjobs.

12 posted on 03/23/2011 3:02:56 PM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: CodeToad

so there is no happy in sand francisco.

hmmmm escape from san francisco.

perhaps the child catcher set up shop there. (see chitty chitty bang bang)


13 posted on 03/23/2011 3:03:13 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Where have all the breeders gone?
Long time passing


14 posted on 03/23/2011 3:03:54 PM PDT by tophat9000 (.............................. BP + BO = BS ...........................Formula for a disaster...)
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To: workerbee

Those poor Mexican kids...


15 posted on 03/23/2011 3:04:16 PM PDT by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: longtermmemmory

Where butt-banditry is rampant, my kids will not go.....


16 posted on 03/23/2011 3:05:45 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: poobear

And, the 800-pound gorilla-sized reason for this is...?

I suppose, that this either means that the remaining children get a really good education (yeah, right) or the adults don’t pay much in school taxes (yeah, sure).


17 posted on 03/23/2011 3:07:30 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: longtermmemmory

Take away the kids, and a city has no future.

In the case of SF, no future might be a very good thing.


18 posted on 03/23/2011 3:09:53 PM PDT by lurk
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To: longtermmemmory

No child left behind in the evacuation from San Franfreako, otherwise your children will be taking it in the behind in more ways than one!


19 posted on 03/23/2011 3:12:10 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: longtermmemmory

Note to the last family out of San Fran: Don’t look back. The last time that happened, someone turned into a pillar of salt.


20 posted on 03/23/2011 3:13:39 PM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: Soothesayer
A child is better off being brutally killed than to spend one year in that horrible city

Nice.

21 posted on 03/23/2011 3:15:26 PM PDT by GSWarrior (To activate this tagline, please contact the board administrator.)
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To: VAFreedom

“it’s a good thing to keep children away from pedophiles... and by that i don’t mean to say all fags are pedophiles.”

If they want to act like that they should go to seminary like the rest of them.


22 posted on 03/23/2011 3:21:43 PM PDT by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: GSWarrior

I don’t exaggerate. That city is hell.


23 posted on 03/23/2011 3:24:53 PM PDT by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: longtermmemmory

“This is no longer a blue-collar town,” Khalif said. “You don’t have families moving here.”

Freaky homo behavior aside, the median home price is $490,000

The real blue-collar jobs are overrun with illegal aliens.

SF conflates city functionaries with the real world.


24 posted on 03/23/2011 3:28:09 PM PDT by primeval patriot
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To: longtermmemmory

Its not exactly family friendly


25 posted on 03/23/2011 3:31:36 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: CodeToad
The snotty liberals HATE children. They want to ban anything children do, say, play with, or eat.

They are all in favor of giving kids flavored condoms and sex toys! The pervs.

26 posted on 03/23/2011 3:33:21 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: longtermmemmory

So, queers don’t have kids? Who knew? < /sarc >


27 posted on 03/23/2011 3:35:06 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: longtermmemmory
I read this article earlier and nearly spouted my afternoon coffee whilst sitting in my office. What the heck did they expect? Moral standards and family values are not in the trash heap of history for most of us. It's the illegals and the pathetic schools (and the illegals in the pathetic schools).

Next up: Families migrate out of Kalifornia at an alarming rate. The liberals will never figure it out - paradise dies with them.

28 posted on 03/23/2011 3:36:50 PM PDT by RobertClark (On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.)
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To: longtermmemmory

It appears that procreation by indoctrination may not work as well as first hoped.


29 posted on 03/23/2011 3:45:24 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: longtermmemmory

You mean the queers aren’t having babies?


30 posted on 03/23/2011 3:47:11 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Soothesayer
A child is better off being brutally killed than to spend one year in that horrible city.

The parents of children who have been brutally killed might disagree.

31 posted on 03/23/2011 3:49:01 PM PDT by Gena Bukin
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To: mkmensinger

Actually, I was going to suggest that they walk out backwards so as to protect their “assets.”


32 posted on 03/23/2011 3:50:41 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: workerbee

Looking at school stats, if it weren’t for Asians and Hispanics, there probably wouldn’t be any public schools left in San Fran.


33 posted on 03/23/2011 3:52:33 PM PDT by hout8475
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To: longtermmemmory

How to make SF a more attractive place for children? Some in the article have already made some real and concrete suggestions.

1. Let kids attend a school near their home, rather than being bused all over the city.

2. Become more pro-business, so heads of household can earn a living wage and provide for a wife and children.

3. Let people park. Taking the bus with 2, 3, 4 kids is expensive and time consuming. Add in trying to carry groceries or merchandise and it becomes impossible. If families can’t park, they can’t drive, and will eventually move to those communities where they end up driving to shop anyway.

4. Put away all the obscene public sex such as the Folsom St. Fair and Pride Parade. Take down the porn billboards.

5. Get rid of the extreme and unavoidable perversion education in the public schools.

6. Reduce taxes. Reduce sales tax.

7. Give us back our Happy Meal toys.

8. Close the abortion clinics. We lose a lot of San Francisco natives there.


34 posted on 03/23/2011 4:04:48 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: longtermmemmory; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp

The Chicken Hawks are deeply saddened...


35 posted on 03/23/2011 4:05:24 PM PDT by tubebender (Now hiring Tag Line writers. Full time low pay)
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To: longtermmemmory
The decrease is disappointing news for city officials, who have attempted to counter the family-flight trend by creating more affordable housing, improving schools and cutting costs, such as a college savings account for kindergarten enrollees.

How about making it more friendly to live there for Christian Heteros?

36 posted on 03/23/2011 4:06:50 PM PDT by hattend (Obama got his 3am call about Egypt. The call went right to the answering machine.- Sarah Palin)
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To: longtermmemmory
...city officials...have attempted to counter the family-flight trend by creating more affordable housing...

Taxing productive residents in order to subsidize the presence of leeching, violent, drug-dealing thugs who ruin public schools and prey on youth has failed to encourage people to raise their families in S.F.

Imagine!

37 posted on 03/23/2011 4:07:08 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Gena Bukin

There is only one thing in the world that is worse than the death of children: the death of their humanity!


38 posted on 03/23/2011 4:07:33 PM PDT by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

I Guess they’re living dangerously either way they face!


39 posted on 03/23/2011 4:08:48 PM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: longtermmemmory

See my tag line!


40 posted on 03/23/2011 4:16:47 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: longtermmemmory

that was my thinking ... like middle class families want their kids indoctrinated day in and day out by and about homosexuals. The parents, as singles, may have been all for the homosexual agenda, but once kids come along, they tend to change their thinking.

5000 kids 17 and under, school aged kids, around here represents two full high schools. That really is a lot of kids to lose. I’m sure, tho, that the teachers unions in SF will find a way to keep every last teacher, and administrator, fully employed.


41 posted on 03/23/2011 4:17:16 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: longtermmemmory

Not to mention that SF probably has more pedophiles per square mile than any other city in the USA. SF would be a very bad choice to raise a family.


42 posted on 03/23/2011 4:17:35 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Soothesayer

You must not have children! A child brutally killed is the worst fate possible. It would be a curse far worse than living in any city, regardless of how sinful and abhorrent that city may be. Shame on you.


43 posted on 03/23/2011 4:20:26 PM PDT by thatgirlgoes
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To: Soothesayer

A little much, wouldn’t you say?

Why not just say evacuate the children and be done with it?


44 posted on 03/23/2011 4:25:31 PM PDT by fwdude (The world is sleeping in the dark that the Church just can't fight, 'cause it's asleep in the light.)
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To: thatgirlgoes

Sorry, but it’s not about gay people, folks. I work in SF and live elsewhere. One problem is that the city insists on bussing kids from middle class neighborhoods to schools in the projects. Parents won’t put up with it and leave. Also, a “starter home” here runs about $800,000. Most families can’t afford that. Anyone who lives in the Bay Area can see where SF’s middle class has gone: to Alameda and Contra Costa counties, on the other side of the East Bay hills. Those areas are full of families with kids and have good schools. More evidence? SF’s population is almost 50% white, but the percentage of white school kids is only 9%. The white population is mostly older people and single adults. Those with kids leave.


45 posted on 03/23/2011 4:26:46 PM PDT by sdillard
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To: longtermmemmory

Once I saw the pix of that alley festival or whatever it is, I decided I would drive through but never go there again, no matter how pretty it is.


46 posted on 03/23/2011 4:28:33 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: longtermmemmory

What sane parent really wants to raise their children in San FranFreakshow?


47 posted on 03/23/2011 4:35:44 PM PDT by fwdude (The world is sleeping in the dark that the Church just can't fight, 'cause it's asleep in the light.)
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To: sdillard

Those areas are full of families with kids and have good schools.
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I’d like to see an end to the expression, “Good Schools”.

Why?

Reason: **None** of the following is **good**!

**ALL** government schools in this nation are godless in their worldview. **ALL** government schools teach children to think and reason godlessly. The children must do this simply to cooperate in the classroom and do assignments. At best, they learn to compartmentalize their faith.

**ALL** government schools are socialist-modeled, socialist-funded, collectivist managed by the voting mob ( school boards), and are compulsory. Simply by attending children learn to be comfortable with taking money from their neighbors, government compulsion, and having their lives ( and even their thoughts) controlled by the voting mob.

**None** of the above is **good**!


48 posted on 03/23/2011 4:37:08 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Persevero

You forgot:
9. Institute a school voucher program.

I think this one thing would bring back people more than the other 8.


49 posted on 03/23/2011 4:41:24 PM PDT by fwdude (The world is sleeping in the dark that the Church just can't fight, 'cause it's asleep in the light.)
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To: Persevero

Are SF’s abortion statistics available? Curious to compare live births to abortions in mass and by ethic groups. Can anyone show us the facts? trends?


50 posted on 03/23/2011 4:45:16 PM PDT by Broker (Mabuhay!)
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