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Poll: Trump’s entry into the race would hurt Palin the most
Hotair ^ | March 23,2011 | Allahpundit

Posted on 03/23/2011 8:01:22 PM PDT by Hojczyk

It’s weird to think of him pulling votes from anyone, but … Palin? The candidate with the single most devoted base in the entire field?

Draw me a Venn diagram of their respective constituencies, please.

Ten percent of Republicans and independents who lean Republican say they would most likely support Trump for the GOP’s 2012 presidential nomination.

That would place him fifth on the list behind former Arkansas Gov. and 2008 Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee at 19 percent, former Massachusetts Gov. and 2008 White House hopeful Mitt Romney at 18 percent, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 14 percent, and 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin at 12 percent…

“Removing Trump’s name from the list and allocating his voters to their second choice gives Huckabee 21 percent and Romney 19 percent – essentially unchanged from January. In a Trump-less field, Gingrich gets 15 percent, up from 10 percent in January, and Paul goes from 7 percent to 11 percent. Palin is the big loser, dropping from 19 percent in a no-Trump round in January to just 13 percent now,” adds Holland.

That’s the fun part of the poll. The less fun part is that Democratic enthusiasm has jumped to 56 percent, trimming a 22-point Republican advantage to … just six. I’m trying hard not to attribute that to a backlash on the left against Wisconsin, but it’s the most compelling explanation I can think of.

As for the Trump/Palin overlap, maybe there’s a portion of disengaged Republican voters who tilt towards the candidate with the highest name recognition. Normally that’s Sarah, but That Guy From “The Apprentice” out-celebrities even her. Similarly, could be that some righties are looking to liven up the debates for fear of a Romney/Pawlenty/Gingrich/Daniels soporific nightmare. Palin and Trump would both achieve that. Or maybe some of Palin’s support right now is as a protest vote by people disaffected with the establishment GOP. I’m skeptical of that, though, since protest votes don’t normally go to candidates like her who can actually win.

If the Trump vote is coming from people who are simply looking to spoil a ballot as a kiss-off to the top contenders in the field, I would think he’d be pulling more from someone like Ron Paul (who actually finished two points behind Trump) than from her.

All theories welcome. Via JWF, here he is


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 03/23/2011 8:01:24 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

The time has come to question the conventional wisdom which asks the question: “Is a candidate electable?”.

The truth is my dog could beat 0bama.

The question becomes: “Who has the guts to turn around this socialist Rat/Soros agenda?”

On that score Palin looks to be a top contender.


2 posted on 03/23/2011 8:02:51 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Hojczyk

Once again AllahPundit has nothing more to do than to go over some hypothetical poll... if it ever involves Sarah and some negative! sheesh!


3 posted on 03/23/2011 8:04:40 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

I cant figure Trump out, do you think he really will throw himself in this? If so, who knows what will happen. He has a pop culture following....


4 posted on 03/23/2011 8:05:23 PM PDT by GoCards (RUN SARAH RUN)
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To: Hojczyk

Brother, ‘hot air’ is right. They’re blowing a lot of it.


5 posted on 03/23/2011 8:05:32 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: Hojczyk

If Trump can win the nomination (not easy but doable) - he wins the Presidency.

Period.

He would win NY and probably CT. NJ may also be doable for him.

Without NY, I can’t imagine Obummer winning.


6 posted on 03/23/2011 8:05:58 PM PDT by RockinRight (I once had my identity stolen. Once they got to know me, they gave it back right away.)
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To: GoCards

We are living in weird times, Trump?


7 posted on 03/23/2011 8:07:00 PM PDT by GoCards (RUN SARAH RUN)
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To: Hojczyk

I say this.

If The Donald has the balls to call the Kenyan bastard out on his non-existent birf certificate, then let him. It serves a useful purpose.

If no other repubic has the balls to do it, well then, he may get my vote.

One thing I am damn sick of is weak ass repubics.


8 posted on 03/23/2011 8:07:00 PM PDT by chris37
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9 posted on 03/23/2011 8:07:04 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: GoCards

In ‘08, I would have laughed at the concept.

Today, I spent about an hour chatting online with a conservative friend of mine, and we are both saying “yup...we could vote for Trump.”

If he’s serious (which is admittedly hard to tell, he is definitely capable of just a publicity stunt), he can win it all.


10 posted on 03/23/2011 8:07:39 PM PDT by RockinRight (I once had my identity stolen. Once they got to know me, they gave it back right away.)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Will the “people” (given that lots of Democrats are probably going to crossover vote in an attempt to spoil Republican primaries) pick a candidate who truly has the smarts to undo the Obama mess?

Sarah Palin certainly could. I’m not sure Trump has the vision, even though he knows how to make billions in the private world. But again by the time a well heeled Trump campaign got to Election Day, every man, woman, and child in the country would have seen a Trump ad about a thousand times. And even he would beat the tar out of Obama.


11 posted on 03/23/2011 8:08:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Hojczyk

Allahpundit hates Sarah Palin.


12 posted on 03/23/2011 8:08:52 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: GoCards

Trump didn’t hurt himself today by going on The View and saying he wants to see Obama’s birth certificate. I thought Whoopi’s head was going to start spinning around.


13 posted on 03/23/2011 8:09:48 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Hojczyk

When will they poll Sirhan Sirhan, Charles Manson or Gadaffi against Governor Palin?


14 posted on 03/23/2011 8:12:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

he did great on there. Did you see how at ease he was, even surrounded by these shrieking harpies? Anyone remember how bad they made McCain look?


15 posted on 03/23/2011 8:12:28 PM PDT by Lachisula
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To: Hojczyk
The Donald is just another RINO, only smaller.

ineluctable

16 posted on 03/23/2011 8:12:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: Hojczyk

Can we see the sample they took the poll from? Do polls mean anything anymore since they were off by as much as 20% last time?

Pray for America


17 posted on 03/23/2011 8:13:03 PM PDT by bray (Hey Country Club, hold your noses this election!)
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To: Hojczyk

One thing about Trump, he’s not hesitant to speak his mind as he did today on the View. He’s the only one who is talking about Obama as the Manchurian candidate (though I don’t think he’s used the term). Every thing else was brought up - no real birth certificate, no records and no one remembers him.

He’s got an ego that’s even bigger than Obama’s if possible but there is nothing phony about the man and he understands business and capitalism. He may be the only one with the know-how and style who can turn the country’s financial mess around.


18 posted on 03/23/2011 8:13:26 PM PDT by CedarDave (Democrats believe in democracy when they have the votes; when they don't they believe in thuggery.)
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To: Hojczyk

There is not a chance in hell that I vote for Donald Trump.

He is not a conservative. Period.

I enjoy the fact that he questions Obama’s eligibility but he is a loser and is not a conservative.

Of course he hated Bush for the most part and he heavily donated to dems. Now of course he could become the dems dream by running and trying to undermine any true conservative from being on the ticket.

Pathetic.


19 posted on 03/23/2011 8:13:57 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: RockinRight
Today, I spent about an hour chatting online with a conservative friend of mine, and we are both saying “yup...we could vote for Trump.”

Just shows what a pitiful situation we're in. Read Trump's bio--his specialty is bankruptcy. He goes bankrupt every few years. I figure he's the perfect guy for America right now. If anyone can handle the US going belly up, it's Trump.

20 posted on 03/23/2011 8:14:57 PM PDT by Huck (Fools make feasts and wise men eat them - Poor Richard)
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