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CBO: Taxing mileage a 'practical option' for revenue enhancement
The Hill ^ | 03/24/11 | Pete Kasperowicz

Posted on 03/24/2011 4:37:42 PM PDT by DoctorBulldog

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) this week released a report that said taxing people based on how many miles they drive is a possible option for raising new revenues and that these taxes could be used to offset the costs of highway maintenance at a time when federal funds are short.

The report discussed the proposal in great detail, including the development of technology that would allow total vehicle miles traveled (VMT) to be tracked, reported and taxed, as well as the pros and cons of mandating the installation of this technology in all vehicles.

"In the past, the efficiency costs of implementing a system of VMT charges — particularly the costs of users' time for slowing and queuing at tollbooths — would clearly have outweighed the potential benefits from more efficient use of highway capacity," CBO wrote. "Now, electronic metering and billing are making per-mile charges a practical option.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cbo; democrats; donntreadonme; economy; govtabuse; liberalfascism; obama; standdown; taxcheatparty; taxes; tyranny
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Well, I guess they couldn't get any mileage out of the VAT tax...

But, seriously, how do you think they going to tax your mileage? I'll tell you how, they are going to keep track of you via a GPS unit installed in your car!

Now, I'm no Constitutional scholar like Our Dark Overlord, but that sounds to me like it might just infringe upon the 4th Amendment...

1 posted on 03/24/2011 4:37:46 PM PDT by DoctorBulldog
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Perhaps if government at all levels stopped wasting gas tax revenue on things like mass transit, and instead used all that money to pay for highway maintenance, this would not be a problem.

Gas taxes should only be used for things that get driven on by cars and nothing else.

2 posted on 03/24/2011 4:40:07 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: All; DoctorBulldog

Ooops, that should be, “...how do you think they ARE going to tax ...”


3 posted on 03/24/2011 4:40:09 PM PDT by DoctorBulldog (Here, intolerance... will not be tolerated! - (South Park))
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To: DoctorBulldog

We’re already taxed for the miles we drive through the taxes collected on the gas we buy to drive those miles.


4 posted on 03/24/2011 4:40:28 PM PDT by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: pnh102

Maybe we should ask them to tax public servants on how far they travel in those jets they seem to all have...

Cheers


5 posted on 03/24/2011 4:41:29 PM PDT by DoctorBulldog (Here, intolerance... will not be tolerated! - (South Park))
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To: DoctorBulldog
they are going to keep track of you via a GPS unit installed in your car

GPS units need antennas.
Think Faraday cage.

6 posted on 03/24/2011 4:41:38 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: anyone

Why hasn’t the government strapped a meter to the chest of each American and started charging us for the full value of the air we use?


7 posted on 03/24/2011 4:41:55 PM PDT by Coyote Choir
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To: DoctorBulldog
"But, seriously, how do you think they going to tax your mileage? I'll tell you how, they are going to keep track of you via a GPS unit installed in your car! "

The GPS would be unconstitutional, but it would be efficient. Have you ever known the federal government to do anything efficient?

So, I predict they'll create the Department of Federal Mileage Inspection. That should be good for 15-20K SEIU jobs. Every year, you'll be required to get your mileage inspected, where you'll also have to pay an annual inspection fee and whatnot.

8 posted on 03/24/2011 4:42:07 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: DoctorBulldog

Wicked bastards!

The leviathan never stops inventing ways to confiscate our money.


9 posted on 03/24/2011 4:43:14 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Coyote Choir
"Why hasn’t the government strapped a meter to the chest of each American and started charging us for the full value of the air we use?"

You might want to delete that before they read it. No need to help 'em.

PS - it won't be the air we breath, it will be the CO2 we exhale.

10 posted on 03/24/2011 4:43:24 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: DoctorBulldog

federal toll booths on federal highways would be my guess


11 posted on 03/24/2011 4:43:38 PM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: Coyote Choir

That’s probably next.


12 posted on 03/24/2011 4:44:06 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: DoctorBulldog
Now, I'm no Constitutional scholar like Our Dark Overlord, but that sounds to me like it might just infringe upon the 4th Amendment...

The 4th amendment to what? Certainly you jest with this bunch of Marxists in power? He'll do it with an Executive Order also specifying what kind of school lunches public school children must eat. Then it'll be 'for the children' don't 'cha know?/sarc

13 posted on 03/24/2011 4:44:06 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: DoctorBulldog

Try it thugs.


14 posted on 03/24/2011 4:44:49 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: DoctorBulldog

Eliminate 800% of all government agencies and fire everyone that works for them and WE DON’T NEED REVENUE ENHNACEMENT!


15 posted on 03/24/2011 4:45:02 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: DoctorBulldog

Stamps, tea....soda, mileage, it’s getting old. They believe they can just ‘help them selves don’t they?


16 posted on 03/24/2011 4:45:37 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: DoctorBulldog

GPS can be disabled.

Its time for pitchforks and torches at the Capitol, folks.


17 posted on 03/24/2011 4:46:04 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: grobdriver
GPS units need antennas. Think Faraday cage.
They'll just make tampering, disabling or destroying the tracking units a Class D felony.
18 posted on 03/24/2011 4:46:39 PM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: grobdriver
GPS units need antennas.
Think Faraday cage.

I'm sure the government envisions a "minimum tax" for people who try to circumvent the mandatory GPS mileage metering devices.

19 posted on 03/24/2011 4:47:24 PM PDT by Gena Bukin
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To: OldDeckHand

Ever hear of rolling back odometers?

Used-car salesmen do it every day.


20 posted on 03/24/2011 4:47:47 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: DoctorBulldog

Where are our reps on this? time to neuter this beast.


21 posted on 03/24/2011 4:47:47 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: DoctorBulldog

It sounds to me like the ones in my cars would malfunction.


22 posted on 03/24/2011 4:48:21 PM PDT by east1234 (Cut, Kill, Dig and Drill!)
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To: Coyote Choir

Strap one on our butt too....”exit tax”


23 posted on 03/24/2011 4:48:38 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: diverteach
We’re already taxed for the miles we drive through the taxes collected on the gas we buy to drive those miles.

But this is to tax the selfish Prius drivers who dodge the gas taxes but still use the roads we pay for. Start calling it a Prius tax, and it will die a well-deserved death (I'd call it a Volt tax, but the new GM will never sell enough of those dinosaurs for anyone to care).

24 posted on 03/24/2011 4:49:43 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: DoctorBulldog

These people are simply insane....


25 posted on 03/24/2011 4:50:39 PM PDT by Crim
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To: DoctorBulldog

“he noted the possibility of a VMT tax as a way to solve the problem of collecting less in taxes as people move to more fuel-efficient vehicles.”

HA, even more reason to NOT buy a Prius of Dolt, use less fuel and get punished with new taxes!

Just stop buying the damn “Green” machines, I think I need a car with two big engines, might as well have fun while I can.


26 posted on 03/24/2011 4:51:03 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: Coyote Choir

If they can estimate a census, they can simply estimate what every person inhales and exhales.


27 posted on 03/24/2011 4:53:51 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: DoctorBulldog
I'll tell you how, they are going to keep track of you via a GPS unit installed in your car!

I had heard that the technology would be at the pump, where current gas taxes are already collected. Everytime you pulled up to the pump, equip in your vehicle would communicate with the pump.

28 posted on 03/24/2011 4:54:10 PM PDT by umgud
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To: OldDeckHand
PS - it won't be the air we breath, it will be the CO2 we exhale.

I don't know, the city where I live charges sewer rates based on water usage. If you water your lawn a lot in the summer, your sewer bill goes through the roof. It is a nice way to guarantee brown lawns and boy do we have more than our share.

29 posted on 03/24/2011 4:54:43 PM PDT by runninglips (the world is on fire, and we are draining the reservoirs before it gets out of control)
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To: DoctorBulldog

This mileage tax sounds unconstitutional. Taxing someone on their movement around the county in a car, restricts my freedom of movement. If can’t affort the tax, I can’t move freely about the county. Something about “life liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”. Next thing they will tax us for how much air we breath, the “O2” tax, and then you need the CO2 discharge tax, which is higher for athletes who give off more CO2!


30 posted on 03/24/2011 4:54:51 PM PDT by kgrif_Salinas
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To: DoctorBulldog

Where do all the federal gas taxes go?


31 posted on 03/24/2011 4:55:01 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Luke ScottWalker - The Force Is With You)
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To: DoctorBulldog

Suppose we had this tax. Wouldn’t some of the greens be arguing that it ought to be replaced with a gas tax, to encourage people to replace gas guzzlers with more fuel-efficient cars?


32 posted on 03/24/2011 4:55:35 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: DoctorBulldog

Well, there goes the CBOs last clinging threads of credibility.


33 posted on 03/24/2011 4:56:03 PM PDT by COgamer
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To: DoctorBulldog

I think its’ gettin’ to be time to tax that gubmint ass.

100$ rate.

No credits.


34 posted on 03/24/2011 4:56:16 PM PDT by chris37 (awesome!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Hell, a company that the Regime favours may scramble the GPS signal anyway.
35 posted on 03/24/2011 4:56:39 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: DoctorBulldog

Lock your bathroom doors folks. The SOBs will be installing counters on your toilets next and taxing you by the excrement unit.


36 posted on 03/24/2011 4:57:28 PM PDT by taillightchaser (The last hope for America--2012)
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To: DoctorBulldog
It would be easy enough to do if you have to have annual inspections already.
37 posted on 03/24/2011 4:57:33 PM PDT by red tie
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

To pay for Barney Frank’s rent boys


38 posted on 03/24/2011 4:58:38 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: DoctorBulldog

Does this mean they will get rid of the tax on Gasoline? I’m sure.


39 posted on 03/24/2011 4:59:49 PM PDT by mortal19440
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Juat how many taxes do they need to work on roads. Especially when it on took Japan 12 days to repair a destroyed roadway.

Gas tax. ( oh yeah that goes into the General Fund just like SS Taxes) Yearly license renewal taxes. Taxes taxes taxes. STOP spending!


40 posted on 03/24/2011 5:02:43 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Sacajaweau

I figure the one on the chest can do double duty? Heartbeat Tax


41 posted on 03/24/2011 5:08:42 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spineless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: DoctorBulldog

And, oh let me guess, GE will manufacture the monitoring devices?


42 posted on 03/24/2011 5:09:28 PM PDT by mom.mom
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To: DoctorBulldog

It ain’t about the revenue, it’s about the tracking. We’ll all be turned into mini Al Capones cheating on the confirmed mileage.


43 posted on 03/24/2011 5:09:45 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau

Exactly!

Cheers


44 posted on 03/24/2011 5:10:29 PM PDT by DoctorBulldog (Here, intolerance... will not be tolerated! - (South Park))
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To: DoctorBulldog

More tax and spend from democrats. The GOP House would be crazy to go along with this big brother scheme, let the wingnuts own it.


45 posted on 03/24/2011 5:12:32 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: DoctorBulldog
This is a TERRIBLE way to generate tax revenue.

A better solution for encouraging people to drive more fuel-efficient cars is to impose an excise tax based on engine displacement and physical size of a car--something that has been done in Europe and Japan for several decades.

46 posted on 03/24/2011 5:14:33 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: glorgau
It ain’t about the revenue, it’s about the tracking.

That's all it's about. They say no information would be transmitted, except for the police who want it, and the juvenile and divorce courts, and the IRS, etc etc.

47 posted on 03/24/2011 5:14:41 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: DoctorBulldog
Why tax me for 70 miles a day? I'm just trying to scratch out a living on this dustball planer.
48 posted on 03/24/2011 5:15:57 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: DoctorBulldog
But, seriously, how do you think they going to tax your mileage? I'll tell you how, they are going to keep track of you via a GPS unit installed in your car!

That's the whole plan. To keep track of our movements AND to decide just who gets to drive how many miles. (Shades of WW11 gas ration books.

I remember back in Carter's orchestrated gas 'shortage', I was living in Calif...the democrap senator from SAn Francisco, who had his own 5 car garage full of Mercedes, remarking that the common people didn't need to be driving around anywhere they wanted to. That is the mindset of the bourgeoisie - still. They really believe they should be controlling the daily lives of the proletarian peasants.)

Their highway miles money is collected from every gallon of gas we buy - it's where it goes and doesn't go from there that is the question.

I have a son who is a longhauler and he can tell when he crosses certain state lines because of the condition of the roads.

Indeed, I have even b een able to tell when talking with him on the cell (calm down, he uses a Blue Tooth) that I can HEAR it.

The common denominator?

Long time republican governed states - smooth roads and great truck stops. The money collected for roads ACTUALLY goes to the roads. What a concept.

Democrap run states: the opposite - like Pennsylvania and Illinois. Their roads are abominable. AND they have the highest gas tax, the most tolls, etc.

WE must NOT let this tax per miles get any traction. They've been trying for sometime.

49 posted on 03/24/2011 5:17:13 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
They say no information would be transmitted,

We all need to keep in mind that when they say that they're going to pass a law, that really means NOTHING. All laws are subject to revision. Both through acts of Congress and conference committees.

Who was it? Lott? that said that laws were made to wash out in conference committees?

50 posted on 03/24/2011 5:19:54 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spineless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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