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America's Most Overrated Product: Higher Education (former Berkeley professor)
University of California, Berkeley, via You Tube ^ | 3/14/11 | Marty Nemko, PhD

Posted on 03/25/2011 4:21:36 AM PDT by Daisyjane69

The link I posted is to Part One. This talk, held at the University of California, Berkeley, contains 7 parts. Each part is about 11 minutes or so long, so once the NCAA games are over, and you take a break from your tax preparation, give it a listen. It's not a particularly visual report; you can put it on in the background while doing other things.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: collegeeducation

1 posted on 03/25/2011 4:21:40 AM PDT by Daisyjane69
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To: Daisyjane69

Here are the rest of the sections, in proper order (which are also available at the link)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ffxBwIzJk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9udtZ5XiSc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfm_oNa0940
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB5AwDmLc8s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kVTHVdYJcQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cirFSVx4axU


2 posted on 03/25/2011 4:25:06 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Daisyjane69

I can read about a hundred times faster than I can listen.


3 posted on 03/25/2011 4:26:22 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Daisyjane69

bttt


4 posted on 03/25/2011 4:26:54 AM PDT by petercooper (Purge the RINO's.)
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To: Daisyjane69

But of course, who needs engineers, biology majors, physicists, language interpreters, artists, musicians, etc.


5 posted on 03/25/2011 4:27:59 AM PDT by Carley (WISCONSIN STREET NO DIFFERENT THAN THE ARAB STREET. UGLY AND VIOLENT)
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To: Carley
Engineers, physicists, & biologists yes.

You do not need to attend college to become a musician, artist, or learn a language.
6 posted on 03/25/2011 4:30:32 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Daisyjane69

Bookmarked


7 posted on 03/25/2011 4:31:55 AM PDT by freemama
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To: Daisyjane69

Bookmarking for later listening.


8 posted on 03/25/2011 4:33:17 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Daisyjane69
Why college replaced the corprate testing of candidates. Now to prove you can read and write you have to go to college when most jobs only require a HS diploma.

Duke Power vs Griggs

9 posted on 03/25/2011 4:35:13 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: freemama; sunshine state; alley cat; ClearCase_guy; WL-law; proudofthesouth; T-Bird45; ...

Your promised “ping” Hope I got everyone!

This talk explains a LOT of things.

It explains why the college grads that apply for jobs at your company seem so uneducated (because they are). It explains why going to a “name” school is a horrendous waste of money. He explains why the schools really do tilt WAY to the left. He also offers solutions. And how students can get the most out of their education.

He names names.

And I doubt he’s invited back to Berkeley to speak anytime soon, after this.

P.S. He is also on the internets.

http://martynemko.blogspot.com/

http://www.martynemko.com/

I hope you all find this as useful as I did.


10 posted on 03/25/2011 4:37:19 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Carley

I agree with your last two.


11 posted on 03/25/2011 4:40:16 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Daisyjane69

A guy that can fix my water main break has more value to me than a Master’s Degree in Economics.


12 posted on 03/25/2011 4:42:08 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: Daisyjane69

Bookmark for later viewing.


13 posted on 03/25/2011 4:44:09 AM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

I hope you listen to this talk.

He explains why we have a surplus of people in the sciences, even including such things as Molecular Biologists.

I posted it because it contained some very surprising information.

:)


14 posted on 03/25/2011 4:44:09 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: bvw

I also posted his websites, for readers like you and me.

That said, I hope you listen to it.


15 posted on 03/25/2011 4:45:01 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Carley

But of course, who needs engineers, biology majors, physicists, language interpreters, artists, musicians, etc.


The tax eaters need tax payers, hence the need for professionals that do REAL work....The "social" or helping people notwithstanding...

16 posted on 03/25/2011 4:50:19 AM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: Daisyjane69

Bookmarking for later.


17 posted on 03/25/2011 4:50:45 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51; All

Once you’ve watched it, holler back and let us know what you think!


18 posted on 03/25/2011 4:54:52 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Carley
Right...but we have here classes, disciplines which are total (sorry) hogwash.

I would not spend a cent enrolling a kid into the kinds of classes that pass for ‘education’ here.

Bottom line: Americans forgot the distinction between an education and a vocation .... long time ago. These things are absolutely different and Universities capitalize on the stupidity of Americans who have bought the hype about a ‘college degree’.

Just look at the losers walking around any campus in America. Do some of these kids look like students? I have seen the same students all semester, and some, I have NEVER ONCE seen reading or carrying a book!! It's all play time for them and since they have 'easy as pie' classes that ANYONE could pass, they graduate with BS degrees and NO prospect of work. (Most of them are in school on the gov't. nickle... Universities and colleges will NEVER turn them away and have designed 'degrees' for them which they would have to be blind and deaf to fail in achieving.)

19 posted on 03/25/2011 5:00:35 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: SMARTY

” they would have to be blind and deaf to fail in achieving.) “

Since Bob Dole and GHWB inflicted the ADA on us in 1990, the blind and deaf are not permitted to ‘fail’.....


20 posted on 03/25/2011 5:06:09 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Daisyjane69

Too many idiot College Professors and courses designed by liberals to teach Communism and Socialism in these schools.


21 posted on 03/25/2011 5:13:54 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Uncle Ike
Actually, I should not disparage blind and deaf students. In my experience, THEY bust their chops on study.... to the extent they are able. They are fiercely independent and hard working.

These other kids, with all the advantages on earth (compared to blind/deaf, etc.), are lazy and stupid. Depend on it... that blind - deaf kid will be working before the able bodied loser EVER will.

22 posted on 03/25/2011 5:14:40 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: New Jersey Realist

I know tradesmen that make more than some doctors and they don’t have $200,000 in student loans to pay back!


23 posted on 03/25/2011 5:21:43 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Venturer

Listen to what he says....he’s NO liberal, despite his Berkeley pedigree.


24 posted on 03/25/2011 5:31:43 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Carley

Yes, technical degrees in engineering, computer science, science, some business degrees and other technical fields have historically had a value. But undergraduate liberal arts has always been a struggle in the real world of jobs unless the student earns an advanced degree in a technical or professional field.In a severe recession as we are currently experiencing, liberal arts degrees are a luxury a young person cannot afford.The only exception is that sales jobs are still open to liberal arts grads.


25 posted on 03/25/2011 5:40:28 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: Daisyjane69
This is why if conservatives and people with conservative values want to take the nation back from the brink we will have to wage a LONG MARCH (although thanks to the "One" in the WH we no longer have that much time) and purge the libtards from academia and media...Also it would help if we stop meekly accepting their premises and worldviews


Reagan WAS not lazy, Palin IS not stupid and Barak sure as hell ain't SMART!!!

26 posted on 03/25/2011 5:43:37 AM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: Nat Turner
Palin IS not stupid

If you listen to what she is actually saying, and not media hyperbole or impressions of her by Tina Fey, she is actually one of the smartest women out there.
27 posted on 03/25/2011 6:32:51 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Daisyjane69

Thanks for the ping. I’ve listened to 2 of the YT segments but I also like to read to get a sense of the speaker’s basic philosophy. This guy is on the mark! I encourage all on the thread to go read at the link below and see if it wouldn’t address many of our educational challenges.

http://www.martynemko.com/articles/reinventing-high-school-curriculum_id1246

Also, I especially liked his Robert Reichhhhhhh quote and how it exposed the liberals for the manipulators they are.


28 posted on 03/25/2011 7:59:59 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Daisyjane69

Thanks — I read over one of his articles on the website with the same title. Big college today is like paying tens of thousands for the assisted suicide of your own beloved children.


29 posted on 03/25/2011 8:15:37 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Daisyjane69

I have a job where a lot of people could and do reach the same conclusions that I do, but since I have an degree and professional certifications, my signature on a document means something where theirs’ doesn’t.

If nothing else, I have value in ratifying decisions and signing documents lol!


30 posted on 03/25/2011 11:32:26 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Daisyjane69

For later...


31 posted on 03/25/2011 4:33:33 PM PDT by freemama
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