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Obama administration canít wait to sell China all the coal it can burn
Grist Magazine ^ | 24 Mar 2011 | Christopher Mims

Posted on 03/25/2011 9:23:08 AM PDT by george76

Here's a recipe for climate catastrophe: First, authorize enough new coal production in Wyoming to yield 3.9 billion tons of heat-trapping greenhouse gases. Then authorize a new export terminal in northwest Washington to ship that black gold to Asia, where the other half of Chimerica will burn it to power the factories we shipped them in the infinite wisdom of globalization.

This process is called carbon offshoring, and it's the nastiest, planet-killingest scheme of which you've probably never heard. China is just the beginning:

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The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States should block these deals on national security grounds, since "the Pentagon's most recent Quadrennial Defense Review highlighted climate change as a threat to national security."

(Excerpt) Read more at grist.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Utah; US: Washington; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: carbon; china; coal; energy; globalwarming; utah; washington; wyoming

1 posted on 03/25/2011 9:23:10 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

The horror...


2 posted on 03/25/2011 9:24:32 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: george76

I hope we’re selling at a good price.


3 posted on 03/25/2011 9:29:35 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: george76

The only waste i see is shipping it there why don’t we use it in our union free factory’s


4 posted on 03/25/2011 9:30:05 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom!!! <sarc>)
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To: Mr. Bird
I hope we’re selling at a good price.

$10 a ton, would be my guess.

5 posted on 03/25/2011 9:37:38 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

How will they get it to China if they cant move it to the West Coast ports...? Which West coast state will let this happen without an epic fight? The enviroloons will try to stop is before it gets on the trains so there is limited risk to Obama and Salazar. Suits have already been filed.


6 posted on 03/25/2011 9:38:04 AM PDT by colonialhk (Elect Veterans not Lawyers)
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To: george76

The real problem here is that we are shipping good, cheap energy to Communists that are taking our business away.

It’s almost like a story from the onion.

Chris is not the sharpest tool in the box.
He still thinks AGW is real?!?!

I wonder if he thinks the Earth is flat.
Probably still thinks Piltdown man is authentic.


7 posted on 03/25/2011 9:40:00 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: george76; Nachum

Didn’t Slick Willie lock up the best coal fields as a National Park out West?


8 posted on 03/25/2011 9:40:40 AM PDT by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: GailA

Yep.


9 posted on 03/25/2011 9:41:38 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: george76

It was in Utah

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/lippo.htm


10 posted on 03/25/2011 9:41:38 AM PDT by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: george76

Hey like all good 3rd world countries, that is how you balance your trade deficit ..you sell off your natural resources


11 posted on 03/25/2011 9:42:27 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: GailA
FYI...
Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument in southern Utah. The 1.9 million-acre wilderness was signed over to the protective custody of the federal Bureau of Land Management by President Clinton on Sept. 18, 1996
The monument’s biggest casualty was the proposed Andalex coal mine on the Kaiparowits Plateau., …. the detrimental impacts to our county, Utah and the nation in terms of the loss of 4.5 billion tons of low-sulphur, high-btu coal - enough to run Utah for over 300 years - plus potential oil and gas and coal-bed methane and strategic minerals like titanium and zirconium.”

12 posted on 03/25/2011 9:49:00 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (The 'Land of Opportunity'... NOW BECOMING... The 'Land of Entitlements'!!!)
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To: george76

Actually, this is about the most legitimately capitalistic thing 0bama has done, IMO.

And Western coal is about the worst coal we have.

That it will produce loads of air pollution is without question.


13 posted on 03/25/2011 9:53:19 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Which has more wrinkles? Helen Thomas' face or Lawrence O'Donnells' panties?)
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To: george76
China uses coal more than any other energy source, and China's use is expected to (along with India) account for more than half of the 80% increase in energy demand in the developing world between now and 2035.

We, on the other hand, have more of the stuff than anyone on the face of the earth. There is definite room here for trade deficit reduction, especially with all of those zillions of empty container ships running back to China after each delivery.

(We also have vast untapped coal resources that have been intentionally placed off-limits by previous administrations... labelled as "national parks"... and one particular location in Utah has a huge amount of the cleanest-burning coal on earth. The next President should very quickly sign an Executive Order, if not rescinding the park's status, at least allowing extraction of resources in a small part of it.

Why we sit on our resources, intentionally ignoring them when they are at their peak value, is an unconscionable crime against this nation. Newer technologies are coming... and when they do, the tens of trillions of dollars of coal and oil we have with be worth tens of billions... a loss large enough to have paid for our entire national debt... that we allowed our leaders to sit long enough for it to be worthless.

14 posted on 03/25/2011 9:59:10 AM PDT by Teacher317 (really?)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

We’re outsourcing our coal!

( /freerepublic folk economists off )


15 posted on 03/25/2011 10:04:54 AM PDT by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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To: colonialhk
How will they get it to China if they cant move it to the West Coast ports...? Which West coast state will let this happen without an epic fight? The enviroloons will try to stop is before it gets on the trains so there is limited risk to Obama and Salazar. Suits have already been filed.

Yeah, the environmentalist will be all upset about this just like they are upset about Obama giving Brazil money to drill for oil off their own coast,

I'm sure they are mobilizing for a massive protest right now as we speak

Yeah and I'm a Chinese jet pilot

16 posted on 03/25/2011 10:07:50 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: george76
We should use the coal here for electricity.

Windmills & solar cells only work, if run by unicorns.


17 posted on 03/25/2011 10:34:01 AM PDT by Uriíel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: qam1

http://www.discovery.org/a/16191
Try Bing if Google is too biased


18 posted on 03/25/2011 10:47:03 AM PDT by colonialhk (Elect Veterans not Lawyers)
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To: colonialhk

funny you should ask

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2011/03/15/1585898/company-to-resubmit-permit-for.html?storylink=rss


19 posted on 03/25/2011 11:55:57 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: colonialhk

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/11/24/1437253/cowlitz-port-might-ship-coal.html#storylink=mirelated

now, about those high speed railways and other infrastructure projects obama wants

to ship our natural resources to China....


20 posted on 03/25/2011 11:58:00 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: silverleaf

lol high speed coal trains...the perfect offset to selling resources...converting them to union labor...rather than general funds to lower taxes and pay debt...suddenly makes sense to O’Nikita in DC.


21 posted on 03/25/2011 12:04:06 PM PDT by colonialhk (Elect Veterans not Lawyers)
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To: colonialhk
The coal will move by unit train to a former aluminum smelter site (now a brownfield) on the Columbia River at Longview, Washington.

This part of the river will take deep draft vessels and really is an ideal spot for FOBing coal or other bulk commodities. The company I used to work for did extensive evaluation of Longview.

22 posted on 03/25/2011 12:35:32 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I hope they can pull it off Eric. We need the money and the Chinese need the low sulphur coal...I think the Greens will have a field day as they control the West Coast.

They will snipe at all of these projects and try to raise the capital cost of all energy foreign and domestic.

23 posted on 03/25/2011 3:12:51 PM PDT by colonialhk (Elect Veterans not Lawyers)
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To: colonialhk

I’ll bet the PRB coal is the cheapest BTUs on the planet even by the time the coal reaches Shanghai.
We wanted to do heavy oil blending for the booming carbon black market in Asia (tires and rubber goods.)
It still could be done.


24 posted on 03/25/2011 5:51:22 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: george76; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks george76.

But not a shovelfull from Utah.


25 posted on 03/25/2011 6:46:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: colonialhk; All

Port plans include Wyoming’s Powder River Basin coal

http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/article_eb3d6229-dfb8-5445-a46e-4dea4984e606.html

“Peabody Energy has completed a deal to ship Powder River Basin coal to Asia via a planned export terminal in northwest Washington.

The deal with Seattle-based SSA Marine will allow St. Louis-based Peabody to ship up to 24 million metric tons of coal per year via the Gateway Pacific Terminal near Ferndale, Wash.

The port would be Peabody’s West Coast hub for exporting Powder River Basin coal to Asian markets, Peabody said in a media release Monday.

It’s the largest West Coast export deal so far for coal mining companies with interests in Wyoming.”


26 posted on 03/27/2011 12:03:59 PM PDT by Lorianne (o)
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To: george76

We should keep the coal here and generate power with it. Sell China our excess windmills.


27 posted on 03/27/2011 12:08:30 PM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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