Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

PETA Wants More Animal-Friendly Language In Bible
Gothamist ^ | March 26, 2011 | Ben Yakas

Posted on 03/26/2011 4:38:57 PM PDT by NYer

32511peta.jpg

After they heard that the latest translation of the New International Version of the Bible will now use gender-inclusive language such as "he or she" instead of just "he", PETA saw an opportunity to change one other thing. The organization has petitioned the Committee on Bible Translation to suggest that its next translation remove "speciesist" language, by referring to animals as "he or she" instead of "it." “When the Bible moves toward inclusively in one area...it wasn’t much of a stretch to suggest they move toward inclusively in this area. Language matters. Calling an animal 'it' denies them something. They are beloved by God. They glorify God," Bruce Friedrich, PETA's vice president for policy, told CNN.

PETA said it hopes the switch to include more gender-inclusive language will spark translators to readdress the ways animals are referred to in the Bible. "Updating the Bible's language regarding animals would not only reflect modern writing trends but also reinforce the idea that animals are living beings valued by God, not inanimate objects. Jesus taught us the importance of mercy and compassion, and this update would encourage mercy and compassion for all God's creatures—including those who have feathers, fins, and fur," Friedrich wrote.

But David Berger, the dean of Yeshiva University’s Bernard Revel graduate school of Jewish studies, said shifting the language would be difficult, given the original Hebrew: "In Hebrew all nouns are gender-specific. So the noun for chair is masculine and the noun for earth is feminine. There’s simply no such thing as a neutral noun. It’s unusual to have a noun that would indicate the sex of the animal."

David Lyle Jeffrey, a professor at Baylor University who teaches about ancient texts and the Bible's relationship to literature and the arts, sympathizes with PETA, but isn't sure if it would be true to the text: "When you get to the point when you say, 'Don’t say it, say he or she' when the text doesn’t, you’re both screwing up the text and missing the main point you addressed."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2insane4words; bible; childhoodwithoutend; peta
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-80 next last

1 posted on 03/26/2011 4:39:01 PM PDT by NYer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 03/26/2011 4:39:54 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

It’s a wacky and crazy world out there.


3 posted on 03/26/2011 4:40:34 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey thug! I've got your "collective bargaining" right here!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

And how many PETA members actually read Bibles? They’d better skip large portions of the old testament.


4 posted on 03/26/2011 4:41:52 PM PDT by Trick or Treat (Palin/Bachmann 2012!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: NYer

The Word of God is not to be trifled with for the convenience of Earth worshipers.

What was that commandment? “You shall have no other gods before Me?”


5 posted on 03/26/2011 4:42:13 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

That is why I stick only with the King James version of the Bible. All these new versions change the Word. I stick to the original translated from the Greek.


6 posted on 03/26/2011 4:43:28 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Lord Said It and I Believe it. Read your Bible. These are the end time events.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
I heard they wanted to change the part where Abraham makes his sacrifice. They want to change it so he was about to sacrifice a ram - but sacrificed his kid instead.
7 posted on 03/26/2011 4:44:54 PM PDT by Fido969
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

I thought the line about man having dominion over the Earth covered it for me.


8 posted on 03/26/2011 4:45:45 PM PDT by AU72
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

I respect your choice of KJB, the NET and NASB are more accurate translations.


9 posted on 03/26/2011 4:46:56 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

That is why I stick only with the King James version of the Bible. All these new versions change the Word. I stick to the original translated from the Greek.

Absolutely. Me, too.


10 posted on 03/26/2011 4:47:44 PM PDT by troublesome creek
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: NYer

They don’t seem to have a problem depicting a woman as a piece of meat....


11 posted on 03/26/2011 4:48:55 PM PDT by mikrofon (<-- waiting for PETA to put human-friendly language in *their* publications.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Someone please tell me - is the world going abso-effing-lutely nuts, or is it just me?


12 posted on 03/26/2011 4:51:27 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

The Holy Bible is the Bible as passed down through each successive generation and not one word of it should be changed for to do so would be committing an unforgivable sacrilege and blasphemy.


13 posted on 03/26/2011 4:52:54 PM PDT by scorchedearther
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Hello. PETA. The Ark?


14 posted on 03/26/2011 4:53:21 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
If their going to pervert God's Word, they may as well go all the way, add some more books too. How about adding the book of Snoopy.

"Thou shall not sleep in thy doghouse, but on top thereof, says O' Charlie the Brown!" :)

15 posted on 03/26/2011 4:57:33 PM PDT by WhatNot (God Bless our troops, especially the snipers.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GAB-1955

Unfortunately there has been a lot of triflin’ goin’ on. The NIV folks just might accomodate.


16 posted on 03/26/2011 5:02:13 PM PDT by Elsiejay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: NYer
God put man above animals, changing to what they want is sacrilege.
17 posted on 03/26/2011 5:07:02 PM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

The audacity of PETA to revise the word of God! Can they bebe lead by other than Satan hiself?


18 posted on 03/26/2011 5:07:28 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( On the cutting edge)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

The Bible is already very animal-friendly. We’re only allowed to eat them as a result of sin. We’re admonished to hold their lives in regard, as righteous men. They’re His creatures, who groan in anticipation of the coming of the Son of God as we do. It’s all there, check it out nominal Christians and non-Christians.

PETA, on the other hand, worships death. PETA thinks animals in it’s care are better off dead and kills with no compassion and no regard. They are not righteous.

They can take their God-hating religion elsewhere, as far as I’m concerned.


19 posted on 03/26/2011 5:07:37 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

PETA, who the hell cares?


20 posted on 03/26/2011 5:12:06 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

I deeply love animals. I’m looking for the right volunteer opportunity in my area to work with them, especially top-tier carnivores.

That said- you do not screw around with The Word. We are specifically admonished against that. It doesn’t matter what positive effect you think it will have.

No. Just no.


21 posted on 03/26/2011 5:12:55 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: scorchedearther
The Holy Bible is the Bible as passed down through each successive generation and not one word of it should be changed for to do so would be committing an unforgivable sacrilege and blasphemy.

Wow, I am very impressed. You read the Old Testament in the origial Hebrew and Aramaic, and the New Testament in the original Greek!

22 posted on 03/26/2011 5:13:47 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: NYer
Don't worry PETA, you have friends in the right places. After our friends from the National Council of Churches are done with the soon to be released gender and gay friendly bible, they will work on the new animal worship edition.

This is not a joke as many of these churches are welcoming pets to partake in the sacraments and allowing them in worship.

23 posted on 03/26/2011 5:14:54 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids (The fear of the lord is the beginning of wisdom (Psalm 111:10))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

PETA - shove up your smelly Obama.


24 posted on 03/26/2011 5:15:02 PM PDT by Da Coyote
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
PETA Wants More Animal-Friendly Language In Bible

Cool - right after they get them to do the same for the Koran - seeya!

25 posted on 03/26/2011 5:17:08 PM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Why should PETA members care of what is written in the Bible?

The gays are still combing through the Bible to find a quote that could justify their viewpoint on same-sex sex.


26 posted on 03/26/2011 5:19:23 PM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Why on earth is there a person in a state of total undress in the heading?


27 posted on 03/26/2011 5:21:18 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (Some minds are like cement; thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
The folks at NIV will be happy to oblige I am sure.


"I am Alicia Silverstone and I am a naked ho skank"
28 posted on 03/26/2011 5:22:52 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mikrofon

They see humans that way


29 posted on 03/26/2011 5:23:52 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: NYer

They’re two thousand years too late.

It’s already been written.


30 posted on 03/26/2011 5:26:55 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ThisLittleLightofMine

I like the NASB. The one that gives me the willies is the NIB, and it seems everyone uses it.

As far as the topic is concerned, most of the animals in the OT are discussed as possessions or sacrifices.


31 posted on 03/26/2011 5:30:57 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: scorchedearther

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Rev. Chap. 22 Verse 19


32 posted on 03/26/2011 5:31:41 PM PDT by MagnoliaB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Let’s first start with a friendlier environment in the womb.


33 posted on 03/26/2011 5:39:49 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

I’ll stick wit the same Bible Jesus used, the King James!

/s

Ed


34 posted on 03/26/2011 5:41:36 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: NYer

PETA and NOW should get together and visit several mosques, and tell them they need to change the Koran.


35 posted on 03/26/2011 5:44:36 PM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers - Good to the last drop!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
Forget the animals in the Bible. Torahs are written on an animal. Hah! Take that PETA.
36 posted on 03/26/2011 5:52:13 PM PDT by Poison Pill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RegulatorCountry

Is PETA still the largest organization that euthanizes animals or did they farm that out to a third party after they where exposed?


37 posted on 03/26/2011 6:03:10 PM PDT by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Jack Hammer
Someone please tell me - is the world going abso-effing-lutely nuts, or is it just me?

"Quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius."

38 posted on 03/26/2011 6:03:52 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|http://pure-gas.org|Must be a day for changing taglines)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: NYer

It may come as a shock to PETA but after Adam and Eve realized they were naked, God made them clothes from animals.

Yep, God Himself made the first fur coat.


39 posted on 03/26/2011 6:07:20 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

PETA is a group of people who practice a false religion of self and animal worship...they have zero input to the Holy Bible of the Creator of those very animals and might as well shut the hell up.


40 posted on 03/26/2011 6:08:06 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Celtic Cross

Yea - what is it with PETA and naked women? They seem to have some issues. Nothing a nice, thick, juicy steak wouldn’t help.


41 posted on 03/26/2011 6:08:10 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Every time I see a rainbow. I’m reminded of 3 things associated with that bow instituted by God.

1) He will not destroy the earth by a flood again.

2) Some crimes including homosexuality are punishable by capital punishment.

3) It’s OK to eat a large steak.


42 posted on 03/26/2011 6:08:29 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

I laugh when the godless are so concerned about God’s Book.

Obviously if the gender of the animal is relevant to whatever’s being discussed, the bible does mention it. If it is unimportant it is not referenced.

Perhaps we should start discussing why PETA feels the best way to get their message out is to make sexually explicit posters of naked women to somehow show how much they care about animals. Can we point to somewhere in God’s Word for them as to how God feels about selling things with sex, or trying to seduce people with naked women? PETA prostitutes?


43 posted on 03/26/2011 6:08:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ThisLittleLightofMine

Thanks for mentioning the NET- I wasn’t familiar with it.


44 posted on 03/26/2011 6:09:43 PM PDT by matthew fuller ( A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh glad the life; and money answereth all things.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Cvengr

He knew after the flood, the entire climate and nature of the earth would be so different, and would necessitate man actually having to eat meat for proper nutrition.


45 posted on 03/26/2011 6:10:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Why would they care, I suspect most hard core PETA folks don’t believe in the Bible.


46 posted on 03/26/2011 6:14:22 PM PDT by SuziQ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
PETS, take it up with the boss, the inspiration of The Bible.

Oh, you may not like the outcome, but at least you will have the opportunity to hear from him.

47 posted on 03/26/2011 6:14:45 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

“That is why I stick only with the King James version of the Bible. All these new versions change the Word. I stick to the original translated from the Greek.”

Ummm, ALL bible translations are translated from the Greek. If a bible version doesn’t use the Greek it will be called a “paraphrase” (e.g. The Living Bible). The question becomes, from which Greek texts? The King James Version (KJV) used traditional texts received by the Anglican Church as of 1611. It is also called by some proponents the “Authorized Version” even though that just means it was authorized by the homosexual and cowardly English king, James I.

Modern translations tend to use different sets of the ancient Greek (and Hebrew) texts, often weighting the oldest texts most, or, perhaps the greatest number of (”majority”) texts....for dealing with textual differences. An example of a textual difference might be the end of the Lord’s Prayer in Matt. 6, which has, “for thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory forever” in some versions (the received texts of KJV) but does NOT have that phrase in other, older Greek manuscripts (reflected in modern translations).

Is any essential meaning changed? No. Any decent translation too will make a note where the Greek or Hebrew texts differ from each other.

The KJV is an excellent translation—given it’s limited texts, and, given Elizabethan English. Unfortunately most people get tripped up by “thees and thous” today, and there actually are some excellent-—NON-GENDER-BENDING modern translations—that are reliable in modern English. I’d recommend the English Standard Version(ESV) (2004) and the Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB) (2003). The New King James Version (1980s(?)) is also considered an excellent, but traditional, translation.

The problem with NIV, is that the translators want to reflect modern English usage, where we often hide gender-distinctives (”I knew a PERSON who had....”) in the name of being polite and inclusive. The Hebrews and Greeks.....like 99% of people throughout the world throughout history, didn’t worry about such niceties (or bending toward animal worshipers either....).

Of course the silly thing is virtually any Church, conservative, liberal, evangelical, traditional, whatever....will have a majority of women. Clearly they don’t feel excluded...while men, actually, tend to be more alienated from Church, across the board. Therefore there really is no need to mess with the literal original meanings... Gender neutrality only makes that PC feeling—and male exclusion worse, IMHO.


48 posted on 03/26/2011 6:20:05 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: NYer

So, like, when are they going to start ragging on the followers of the Koran for cherishing a book that calls dogs and pigs filthy animals?


49 posted on 03/26/2011 6:25:00 PM PDT by Stosh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

I saw a PETA protest in Fort Worth a few years ago. The protesters were wearing leather belts and shoes.


50 posted on 03/26/2011 6:32:32 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-80 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson