Skip to comments.Pakistan Switches Sides, Expanding Arms Allegiance With China and Leaving U.S. Behind
Posted on 03/26/2011 9:43:56 PM PDT by metmom
ISLAMABAD Pakistan is beefing up its arsenal of nuclear-capable missiles by embracing China as its new strategic arms partner and backing away from the U.S., analysts have told Fox News.
Pakistan earlier this month test-fired a nuclear-capable missile from an undisclosed location the second in a month of try-outs for its short-range surface-to-surface Hataf 2 class rocket, co-developed with the Chinese. It was the latest in a series of arms collaborations between the two nations, which view their strategic partnership as a counterweight to a boldly confident India, which has American support.
Until the mid-1960s, the United States was the principal supplier of weapons to Pakistan, the worlds eighth most-powerful nuclear nation. But the U.S. began to back away from the relationship after years of difficult and sometimes unpredictable relations following the 9/11 attacks. The U.S. no longer fully supports the military ambitions of a Pakistan that is being destabilized by an insurgency it cannot control, rising radicalism and anti-Westernism, and a government considered by some too weak and corrupt.
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Well, I think they’ve figured out by now that if they get into trouble, the Obama administration will, at best, waffle and at worst leave them in the lurch in favor of Muslim extremists. I have a hard time blaming them for seeing China as more likely to be there for them in time of trouble, at least until Obama is gone.
Well, if he’ll screw us, he’ll screw anyone.
I thought China executed terrorists.
Gee, I thought Hitlery was such good friends with Pakistan.
Maybe that’s only terrorists that terrorize THEM.
Maybe that's part of the problem.
Would you trust a face like that?
Besides, she's a woman (technically).
Driven into the arms of another.
I think we're falling right into the plans of Al Qaeda by going into Libya.
Watch for these protests to start up in nuclear Pakistan once we're tied down in Libya.
For decades now, the problem hasn't been the Pakistani government. It's the Pakistani people. The wave of religious fervor comes from one thing - all the secular types had lots of fun, but no kids. All the religious types had no fun, but plenty of children. In Pakistan, as in the rest of the Muslim world, demographics is destiny. If a kinder and gentler Mongol horde were to conquer Pakistan today, its first act would be to sterilize every mosque attendee and imam in the country.
Now, we're bombing Libyan forces essentially on behalf of Al Qaida.
If I were in Pakistan's shoes, I'd do the same.
As I understand it the strategic significance of Afghanistan is that if it falls to the Taliban, Pakistan will ultimately fall to the Taliban along with its nuclear arsenal. Eventually it may be necessary for the U.S. to withdraw to the India-Pakistan border and partner with India.
This is what is really going on with all the revolutions in the mideast, including Libya.
the far left intelligentsia, i.e., soros, etc., is getting attempting to swing all world opinion against the u.s.
with nobama in office, this can proceed fairly fast.
libya is a demonstration of this: virtually all media, including fox, is not pointing out that this is all over european oil supply.
europe is dumb enough to side with the foreign fighters who are moving into libya and go along with pushing out qdaffy.
I think there is a high probability that the new government of Libya would not sell them oil anyway if they can dislodge qdaffy.
I think Britain, France, Italy should reverse course immediately, say that they have discovered the terrorist connection to the revolution and work to help qdaffy remain in power. Between them and the U.S., there will be enough carrot and stick to keep qdaffy selling oil to the west.
pakistan walking away from the U.S. is an issue that needs handling.
We need to lean on Congress as hard as possible to pull out of Libyan operation.
We need Britain and France to pull out of Libyan operation, all pressure that can be put on them should be applied.
Repub Congressmen need to be made aware that this situation may start to rapidly degrade and we need to keep too much momentum from swinging against the U.S. during the 22 months ahead.
The U.S. should get out of Libyan operation asap.
Any efforts that can be made by anyone to collapse the Libyan revolution are very needed.
I think U.S. planning has been completely duped by leftists, i.e., Dr. Evil, i.e., soros and the like, into thinking they can promote democracy in the mideast, when really we are going to lose access to ALL mideast oil.
Saudi Arabia is a big, fat target for revolutionaries and they have their sights set. Don’t bother talking about drilling at home, this is simple math: of the oil under the ground, how much can China buy versus how much the U.S. can buy. And SA and the small states need to stay on the Western side due to how much oil they represent.
I think this may be coming up soon - we need to make Congress aware. Saudi Arabia needs to be defended at all costs, even if an independent venture, no matter what slaughter has to take place.
As far as terrorism goes, at this point, it’s beyond that, we need to not give up oil that we have access to at this point.
The U.S. dollar must strenthen. China is planning on being the standard world currency; this is maybe planned for the not too distant future.
We NEED to start U.S. government austerity programs IMMEDIATELY.
We need to get started making businesses IMMEDIATELY, that is the ultimate strengthener of the dollar.
That makes too much sense and doesn’t line someone’s pockets.
It’s not going to go because it’s good for this country.
Don’t blame them. Going with the strong horse.
If you were leading a nation outside of the US, would you want to ally yourself with the current bunch in the White House?
Cannot say I blame them given the current government and is supporters on the right and left, do you think any third world country will believe anything the government says, when you start trying to kill all the countries leaders you don’t like. They are just trying to look out for them selves.
Cannot say I blame them given the current government and is supporters on the right and left, do you think any third world country will believe anything the government says, when you start trying to kill other countries leaders they don’t like. They are just trying to look out for them selves.
Umm, whoever wrote this article needs a history lesson ASAP. Pakistan never switched sides-they have always sided with the Chicoms. Since the late 50s.
Anyone who is deluding themselves into thinking Bush or Obama pushed them to the Chicoms better take a look at their order of battle. For every F-16 they have, their’s approximately 5 Chinese built F-7 fighters. And several hundred more on order.
Pakistan decided on this move almost 50 years ago; they’ve only fleeced Washington into throwing more military aid.
A horse that will not act strongly is no better than a weak one.
Good, now we should stop all military and economic foreign aid to Pakistan....will not happen under this idiot-ridden administration. =.=
Nothing new here. Pakistan has been receiving Chinese military aid since the 60’s. China allied itself with Pakistan to balance the Soviets who aided India back during the time Mao and Brezhnev were about to go to war against each other. During the 1971 war both Nixon and Mao supported Pakistan.
The Obama wrecking crew is taking its toll.
I keep telling everyone that WW III has started and most people don’t even know it.
Americans can be sooooooooo stupid. Real shame - real shame - where all of this is leading.
A bloody bloody war is ahead of us. We will all pay the price before it is all said and done.
If I am not misreading any of this bull, the impression I have is that just like that of the North Vietnamese, the Pakistani, too, have the potentials to only exploit the Chinese (using them as a mechanical advantage of kind to counter balance the forces that are exerting against them) and not tilting/leaning politically 100% towards the Chinese therefore not to get too hyped up over this.
However, to keep evil at bay or away from her western flank, let’s just say that if Pakistan were hit [a’la Libya fashion] and that in itself is a big if of course, then, I’m pretty confident that short of committing ground troops a’la Korean war fashion, Beijing can be assured to provide Pakistan with all of the support she needed. This support would include equipments up to the J-10 even the J-11B, all the logistics, and the strategical support and command infrusture that Pakistan needed to defend itself against hostile elements.
And why is that?
I think “THE THANKS” and “THE BACK STABBING” that Beijing has gotten from Vietnam after all of that thick and thin she went through together with Vietnam during the Vietnam war is a lesson she (China) will never forget and that she will apply that lesson to all future dealings with the exception of North Korea who, even to this day, has proven that the Chinese saying “as close as lip and teeth” indeed does live up to every of its words.
Yes, these are the opening shots to WWIII.
The Obama wrecking crew have done it. I destest those bastids in the White Hut.
Europe and Africa, and the ME will be in soon.
And the whole world will have to take sides.
War brought on again by bankrupt liberal fascists at home and abroad in Europe.A pox on all of the bastids.
Remember too that Pak and China are in the midst of a border dispute with India over the Jammu and Kashmir regions. A stronger alliance between Pak and China could cause that to ignite into a full border war (China also wants Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh). If that conflict goes hot, and I am fairly sure it will eventually, the US will be India’s only real hope for an alliance, as it has few other friends in the region. With or without help, India will make it very expensive for China and Pak to take those areas, and that could ignite a regional war as other states are pulled in.
That’s what happens when a formerly rich, former manufacturing powerhouse sends all its manufacturing to its largest competitor, while also sending all its money via “free trade” to its largest competitor:
The competitor ... WINS.
It’s not just Obama.
Our so-called leaders have been sending our factories, national treasure and our technology to China as fast as they could for the last 20 years.
Republicans and Dems alike, have sold us out.
I feel for India.
How could they switch sides? They’re Muslims. They will always be on both sides, for a while, until they switch.
Obama is the closer:
I know its not just him, but he is their gunslinger. He must be offed.Sent down the road, turfed.
They’ll align themselves with whichever side works best for them at the moment.
If someone is working under the delusion that they are *with* any one at all, they’re being dangerously deceived. They won’t hesitate to stab you in the back, or slit your throat.
Pakistan is the next Iran.
Obama? Well... My two cents here: I betcha he have nothing to do with it. In other words, he too was just obeying orders. He had no choice in the ‘no fly’ matter. The object of his ‘appointment’, yes, in my personal opinion his was an appointment, and the job he was designed to fulfill is finally taking shape. If everything goes well, he will get another four years to finalize it. If otherwise, he’ll be out as quickly as he came in.