Skip to comments.Stun guns for citizens a charged issue with law enforcement, legislators
Posted on 03/27/2011 5:08:01 AM PDT by marktwain
WEST MICHIGAN Muskegon County Sheriffs Department Deputy Jeff Blackmer said he wishes the state legislature would holster attempts to allow stun guns under the states concealed weapons law.
I think its a bad thing, said Blackmer, who has been a stun gun instructor for the sheriffs office since 2009. Its bad enough to keep kids away from knives and firearms.
People might treat (stun guns) like toys and theyre dangerous. There is an awful lot of power, he said.
Stun guns commonly referred to as Tasers, a brand name are not legal in Michigan outside of law enforcement and a few other limited exceptions. Law enforcement officers have used Tasers in Michigan for several years. The device fires two prongs that can penetrate clothing and deliver an electrical charge strong enough to disable a person. goeff-hansen.jpgGoeff Hansen
Now, a bill to allow stun guns under the states concealed weapons law recently passed the state House.
The bill would allow people to carry so-called citizen Tasers, if they undergo a training course and meet the standard requirements for getting a concealed weapons permit. Those include not having a felony criminal record or documented history of mental issues.
Many legislators support the bill and say concerns about people misusing stun guns have simply not born out in the 43 states that already allow them.
Sen. Goeff Hansen, R-Hart, said the stun gun will provide people with an effective and less dangerous method of self defense.
Its a less than lethal option for people, Hansen said.
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Why not ban hammers Blackmer?
Anti-Gun,Anti-Taser,Anti-self-defense.These jokers really want the public defenseless.
The tyrants dont want to be the ones screaming: “Dont tase me, bro!”
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With that said, it is a weapon. If a person should want to carry a taser instead of or in addition to a firearm, it is his God given right as (supposedly) protected by the second amendment of the US Constitution to do so.
Tasers are different from Stun Guns.
Tasers shoot, Stun Guns don’t. I want a stun gun for walking when big dogs are out.
If people want Tasers, they should have them. That being said, bah humbug on less than lethal weapons.....
Sure, the State will license you to conceal carry a .44 Magnum, but no, we won’t let you have a knife with a blade over 3” or a stun gun.
My rep and now my Senator Rick Smith introduced the bill a couple of years ago. He is the former Eaton County top cop so he knows what he is talking about. It got hung up a couple of years ago by the Dems. They wanted something in exchange for its passage. So much for the people
In Wisconsin, which bans CCW, carrying a concealed weapon is a misdemeanor, while simple possession of a stun gun is a felony.
I guess Michigan is like Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Virginia:
A state with a largely rural and small town population governed oppressively by the urban elite of that state’s largest metropolis. In theses cases, it’s
Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and Richmond plus the Potomac area.
FWIW, I wouldn’t trade my 1911 for any Taser.
Among other things, we need to start strongly reminding “law enforcement” that they work for us, not the other way ‘round. The whole notion of police agencies being given the only legal authority to “protect” is bogus. While I'm not an advocate of vigilantism, it's every citizens right to protect life, limb and property, and every law abridging those rights is invalid. Those rights are God Given, and inalienable.
It's sad that generations of “subjects” have been brainwashed into accepting government bullying.
Tasers are too quiet. That’s what scares them. Nobody to ask, “Did you hear any shots?” Even silencers make some noise.
Another lib who believes the little people are just too stupid to be trusted with their own decisions and well-being. What a surprise.
I belive there is a naturally more conservative viewpoint of those who have to succeeed or fail based directly on their own efforts that differs from those living on cities where so much work is not directly related to producing immediate tangible results.
§908.1. Use or possession of electric or electronic incapacitation device.
(a) Offense defined.-Except as set forth in subsection (b), a person commits an offense if the person does any of the following:
(1) Uses an electric or electronic incapacitation device on another person for an unlawful purpose.
(2) Possesses, with intent to violate paragraph (1), an electric or electronic incapacitation device.
(b) Self defense.-A person may possess and use an electric or electronic incapacitation device in the exercise of reasonable force in defense of the person or the person’s property, pursuant to Chapter 5 (relating to general principles of justification), if the electric or elec*tronic incapacitation device is labeled with or accompanied by clearly written instructions as to its use and the damages involved in its use.
(c) Prohibited possession.-No person prohibited from possessing a firearm pursuant to section 6105 (relating to persons not to possess, use, manufacture, control, sell or transfer firearms) may possess or use an electric or electronic incapacitation device.
Citizens should have the same access to weapons that cops do.
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