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Barbarians within: Why Brit-style riots could spread to US
NY Post ^ | March 27, 2011 | Michael A. Walsh

Posted on 03/28/2011 3:48:34 AM PDT by Scanian

They were cleaning up the mess in London yesterday -- replacing the windows at the Ritz, fixing the wooden façade at Fortnum & Mason and attending to a vandalized Trafalgar Square in the wake of Saturday's protests -- and riots -- by trade unionists and anarchists.

Think it can't happen here? Think again.

The British press reports that up to half a million people took part in the demonstrations, 200 were arrested and more than 160 injured -- including 84 police officers, 11 of whom had to be hospitalized.

Why? Because Prime Minister David Cameron announced a $130 billion cut in public spending and this is how the infantile left reacts when its I've-got-mine-Jack gravy train is threatened.

The weekend demonstration was led by Britain's powerful Trades Union Congress, whose leader, Brendan Barber, has been warning for more than a year that "industrial unrest" would greet any Tory government that dared attack Britain's sky-high social spending.

Addressing the gathering in historic Hyde Park was Ed Miliband, the Labor Party's new hard-left leader (his father was a prominent Marxist), who likened the protesters to the suffragettes, the US civil-rights movement and the fight against apartheid in South Africa. Which ought to tell Britons all they need to know about their prime-minister-in-waiting.

In the aftermath of the all-too-predictable violence -- in Trafalgar Square, the words "fight back" and "Tory scum" were scrawled on the bronze lions and red paint was splashed on the 2012 Olympics countdown clock -- there was the usual tut-tuting

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anarchists; labourparty; trafalgar; unionists; vandalism
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1 posted on 03/28/2011 3:48:40 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

International Communist Plan.


2 posted on 03/28/2011 3:49:40 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: Scanian

It’s unfortunate that the royal wedding is looming. If they needed any reminders of how much the royals cost the UK, or if they had second thoughts about the monarchy at all, the wedding will surely make them consider demonstrating on the big day.


3 posted on 03/28/2011 3:53:37 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Scanian

It wouldn’t be the first time commies rioted here. And yes, if we ever start cutting, the riots will come.


4 posted on 03/28/2011 3:53:44 AM PDT by Huck (Fools make feasts and wise men eat them - Poor Richard)
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To: Scanian

Socialism will only last until it runs out of other peoples money and apparently the time has come, the problem is that it hasn’t sunk in yet.


5 posted on 03/28/2011 3:57:01 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: Scanian

If it happened here in the US, the police and firefighters would join with the rioters....


6 posted on 03/28/2011 3:58:31 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: Scanian

“Infantile” is a good word. It is exactly how one would describe what happened (and continues to unfold) in Madison, WI. The tactics of the Dem representatives (fleeing to another state rather than lose a vote). Match that with the mantra: “This is what democracy looks like” and you have a situation that is something out of “Alice in Wonderland”.

Yet, many Independents look at this and think ill of the Republicans for causing the mess. These weak minded dolts can’t recall that the Republicans were trying to clean up the mess and [apparently] can’t distinguish cause from effect.


7 posted on 03/28/2011 3:59:32 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Scanian

Bring it ... we’re armed with clever, little, concealable doodads that kill.


8 posted on 03/28/2011 4:00:28 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: hershey
It’s unfortunate that the royal wedding is looming. If they needed any reminders of how much the royals cost the UK

The royals cost so little in comparison to the rest of their system it's ridiculous.
9 posted on 03/28/2011 4:05:33 AM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country.----------In the same way Rush is balance, I am consensus.)
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To: arderkrag; hershey

One could think of the Royal Family as a public entertainment expenditure. I’d rather watch them pose than filthy welfare drones rioting, anyway. That’s not fun TV.


10 posted on 03/28/2011 4:10:51 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Nadie me ama como Jesus.)
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To: esoxmagnum

Not the police I know, and our firefighters are all volunteers.

The anarchists may burn DC but here we have the tar and feathers ready, and the police will stand aside or more probably, shake the bag of feathers.

Bring it.


11 posted on 03/28/2011 4:15:00 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: saintgermaine
The barbarians aren't at the gates, but inside them.
12 posted on 03/28/2011 4:16:29 AM PDT by Pecos (Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: rbg81

“Infantile” is a good word.

Yes, very descriptive.

Unfortunately, the Left and the public schools (yes, I repeat myself) have done an excellent job of infantilizing American society.

Close to half the country eats up the lying union slop and most of the rest have their heads up their a__.


13 posted on 03/28/2011 4:16:52 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

The Left always imagines itself as some vanguard of grandeur. The egomania and immaturity (they go hand in hand) never cease to amaze me.

Their philosophy is “if you don’t do what you want I’ll smash your valuables and all your pretty things!”

Isn’t that a “temper tantrum”?


14 posted on 03/28/2011 4:17:45 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Scanian

“People of good will on both sides need to stand strong against intimidation and violence and insist that such questions be settled at the ballot box — and that the results be respected.”

In theory, it sounds good; but in reality, Michael A. Walsh lives in La La Land.


15 posted on 03/28/2011 4:22:36 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Tax-chick

I hope they don’t ruin Kate & William’s wedding next month.


16 posted on 03/28/2011 4:25:30 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Scanian

Media Matters has suggested a “London style” action against FOX news. Apparently they want to break the windows.


17 posted on 03/28/2011 4:25:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: FES0844

So do I.


18 posted on 03/28/2011 4:29:15 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Nadie me ama como Jesus.)
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To: arderkrag

Plus, the Crown Estate (which is ours, not theirs) generates a sizeable chunk of which goes into the Treasury to offset the £42 million the monarchy actually costs to operate. For example, we get £37 million a year from offshore wind farms purely because the Crown owns the sea beds!

A financier friend of mine did a cost-benefit analysis of us having an elected head of state... and concluded that you’d have to be the most monumental berk on earth to change the system.

He said it’d be like choosing to pay £100 for a plain 3 ply white toilet paper roll that chuffs your backside, on the basis that a £5-per-roll 4 ply cushioned toilet roll with an embossed William Morris print is just too “elitist” and “undemocratic” to be tolerated in the modern age.


19 posted on 03/28/2011 4:31:09 AM PDT by MalPearce
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To: Huck

“And yes, if we ever start cutting, the riots will come.”

Given the propensity of the Fed to print money, and of Congress to spend it, there won’t be riots anytime soon.


20 posted on 03/28/2011 4:31:47 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Scanian

We have not prepared for that day for nothing. We are not England... and the anarchists will find out.

LLS


21 posted on 03/28/2011 4:31:56 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: Pecos

“The barbarians aren’t at the gates, but inside them.”

Actually, the barbarians are running the country.


22 posted on 03/28/2011 4:32:08 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: rbg81

Just my opinion - but what we have witnessed in London is just another Leftist technique to steal the political stage. 500,000 trade unionists apparently gathered to protest government budget cuts. 500 well organized and prepared anarchists rioted and trashed Trafagar Square with all the standard symbolic gestures of the exremist Left. They steal the moment from the other 499,500 non-violent attendees, as the entire event is defined by the media in terms of a riotous “anti-capitalist” demonstration.

Our problem is STILL that we and they are playing by completely different rule books in a culture war to the death (of western civilization).

When will we learn?????


23 posted on 03/28/2011 4:32:23 AM PDT by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: Scanian

These are not protesters
These are rioters.


24 posted on 03/28/2011 4:33:48 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: MalPearce

O.M.G.

ROTFLMAO! You guys are so droll.


25 posted on 03/28/2011 4:36:47 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Dude. They already know. They riot there because it’s tolerated.


26 posted on 03/28/2011 4:38:20 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: esoxmagnum

Time to buy more ammo.


27 posted on 03/28/2011 4:38:31 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Scanian
People of good will on both sides need to stand strong against intimidation and violence and insist that such questions be settled at the ballot box -- and that the results be respected. In any contest, there gets to be two teams on the field, not just one, and the game can only be played if both sides follow the rules.

The ballot box has been corrupted, results not respected, rules not followed, and representatives no longer represent their constituents.

The Tree of Liberty is parched and withering... in need of its natural manure.

28 posted on 03/28/2011 4:38:49 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Scanian

Yawn ... the mid-1960s all over again ... the inner cities must need a little unban renewal again ...


29 posted on 03/28/2011 4:39:25 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Scanian

We’ve already seen them in Wisconsin.

If the GOP ever has the courage to deep-six spending, the rent a mobs will be out in the streets.

Count on it.


30 posted on 03/28/2011 4:39:56 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: MalPearce

I trust that Cameron is reading up on the Iron Lady.


31 posted on 03/28/2011 4:40:27 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: PIF

That was my other thought: urban renewal. DC really needs it.


32 posted on 03/28/2011 4:41:16 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: Scanian

2008 was a test run.

Now, they have accomplices at the top of the Federal Reserve, Treasury Deaprtment, Justice Department and White House.


33 posted on 03/28/2011 4:43:08 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Senator John Blutarski

If this tiny group of vandalous troublemakers was so dwarfed by the “peaceful” protesters — why didn’t the peaceful protesters swarm them and stop them?


34 posted on 03/28/2011 4:45:27 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: goldstategop

Not in MY streets.

Tar & Feathers .....


35 posted on 03/28/2011 4:48:28 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: Scanian

we got a preview right in Madison Wisconsin


36 posted on 03/28/2011 5:10:17 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Scanian

I think we should be glad that this type of anarchy is NOT prevalant in this country...

Sure we have the Unions crying like a bunch of [expletive deleted]...But thats just their style...Most of those people in those ranks coldn’t really tell anyone why or what they are exactly displeased about, so that just takes away any credibility to their protests...

I would hope that the sentements expressed here are reserved until those mobs hit the suburbs, and those of us who have businesses in the populated urban areas make sure you have your insurance updated in case of such unrest...

I also believe we know where the line is drawn, and those who are prepared to react to such unrest, if it comes to that, but we all hope it doesn’t come to blows...

Both sides of this equation need to be careful what they wish for...Nobody is going to win in the worse case senario...

Just my opinion...


37 posted on 03/28/2011 5:11:00 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Scanian

“Close to half the country...” swallows union BS propaganda. You got that right.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2688542/posts

EVEN HERE ON FR, FOR PETE’S SAKE!!!, you get masses of IDIOTS who LOVE unions, and swallow their BS hook, line, and sinker.


38 posted on 03/28/2011 5:13:52 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: knarf

That was essentially my comment in a Steyn thread on these riots. Nothing like them will happen in concealed carry states, especially those with no-duty-to-retreat laws. A few hooded punks would get shot by citizens, and that would be that.

BTW, Mark Steyn’s take on those riots is worth reading. He happened to be in London.

The Human Right to Suspend Reality
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2695181/posts?page=1


39 posted on 03/28/2011 5:16:10 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: PIF

“the mid-1960s all over again”

BUT,
The MID 60’s saw race riots (Watts in ‘65, Detroit and Newark in ‘67)..the LATE 60’s saw anti-war and leftist riots such as the ‘68 ‘rat Convention and the Weathermen’s ‘69 “Days of Rage,” both in Chicago. The difference with today is that the industrial union members, aka Hardhats, resisted the punks in the streets. Nowadays, the AFL-CIO could be expected to lead the charge for the left in some cases, especially if commie creep Richard Trumka remains in control.


40 posted on 03/28/2011 5:18:37 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Doctor 2Brains

I’ve had to join 3 in my time and I will gladly attest that they all SUCKED, especially the Teamsters who never would let you quit (”Teamster for Life”) like some religions.


41 posted on 03/28/2011 5:20:37 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: stevie_d_64

I agree with you. And you and I both know that the right will be blamed by the media for any violence or damage.

It would give a lot of satisfaction to stick a boot up some hippy’s a__ but is it worth the political downside?


42 posted on 03/28/2011 5:23:59 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian; screaminsunshine; hershey; Huck; saintgermaine; esoxmagnum; rbg81; knarf; arderkrag; ...
EVEN HERE ON FR, FOR PETE’S SAKE!!!, you get masses of IDIOTS who LOVE unions, and swallow their BS hook, line, and sinker.

I think for this reason, the Scott Walker "Pickett's Charge" directly into the Union fray is futile.

Action: Target Unions. Reaction: draw protests.

What you need is to put the onus on the protesters to materialize action in their favor.

Say instead you create a steep barrier to spending, zero-basis budget rules or whatever such that ANY pet spending (union welfare, corporate welfare, welfare welfare) has to be approved in the affirmative vs other options every year, rather than contracts which roll continuously.

Accomplishes the same thing in the end, but doesn't allow the unions to focus the limelight on "cutting teachers and firemen and puppy dogs."

43 posted on 03/28/2011 5:25:16 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Senator John Blutarski
Our problem is STILL that we and they are playing by completely different rule books in a culture war to the death (of western civilization).

From the article:

In any contest, there gets to be two teams on the field, not just one, and the game can only be played if both sides follow the rules.

When one doesn't -- well, just take a look at Trafalgar Square, then brace yourselves.

One of Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals is there are no rules for the Left, anything goes. Lying is necessary and encouraged. Traitors to our system will be the heroes of "The Revolution."

Conversely, they hold us to the highest possible standards both technically and philosophically. Consequently, we are always fighting by the most stringent of rules while they have none.

This would be obvious to everyone except the media is on their side and they present a one-sided picture favoring the Left, not truth. It will be a tough battle reversing 100 years of creeping Communism but if we intend to survive we must.

Communism is about destruction, period. Even after they have destroyed the status quo and are completely in charge they are still about destruction. They imprison people, they slaughter people and finally they destroy even themselves. It is built into the system of Dialectical Materialism on which Communism is based.

Last night on 60 Minutes they were doing a segment on "greedy corporations" who fled the country to avoid our highest-taxes-in-the-world taxes on corporations. I kept waiting for Leslie Stahl to demand a Berlin Wall to keep people in. It never seems to occur to them that if they would lower taxes, not only would they keep the jobs here but they would collect more taxes than they do with high taxes. In stead, they are plotting even more stringent rules to try to collect the taxes.

44 posted on 03/28/2011 5:34:04 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government!)
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To: FES0844

Nah, they’ll look to BHO, Muchelle, and the LSM to pull some stunt to do that.


45 posted on 03/28/2011 5:36:25 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Kartographer

You can’t have too much ammo unless it sinks your boat, crashes your plane or cracks your slab.


46 posted on 03/28/2011 5:50:32 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Scanian
Seen one major riot, seen them all - riots in the 60s did major infrastructure damage - arguably worse than anything yet in the EU, doesn't matter how one characterizes them they were still riots - complete with National Guard troops w/ loaded guns and APCs.

The Federal government was so threatened then, that NSA was monitoring, recording, and transcribing phone, taxi and police calls, among others nationwide - as I recall the traffic went to the FBI via the CIA. It was believed at the time in government circles that race was only a pretext and that the real motivation and inspiration was communist led by Russian operatives.

Creepy Trumka = Creepy Hoffa, et al. Unions have always led for leftist causes.

Mostly the unions rely of the courts to get their way. However, when the free stuff is taken from the inner city leaches, they will riot.

PS: DC, Philly, Harlem, Rochester, Paterson, Trenton, St. Augustine, also burned - plus 114 more cities after King was shot.

47 posted on 03/28/2011 5:51:32 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Scanian

“Infantile” is a good word but unfortunately it isn’t the only word. It is true that the Left has never grown up and believes that they can get whatever benefits they want and have the “rich” pay for them. Its also true they are Brownshirt thugs who will threaten, intimidate and bully Republican-controlled governments into giving them what they want. And as we saw in Wisconsin, you can’t trust the police to stop the lawlessness.

What needs to happen is a strong showing of police presence. That doesn’t mean shooting people and we wont’ be able to put them in jail for long periods but clearly there can be arrests, big fines, restitution and this nonsense going on their records. Hopefully we have some police who still understand their jobs and are willing to do so.


48 posted on 03/28/2011 5:58:36 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("The time will come when Winter will ask you what you were doing all Summer" -- Henry Clay)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

What can you do when the cops are unionized?


49 posted on 03/28/2011 6:26:56 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: stevie_d_64
"...make sure you have your insurance updated in case of such unrest..."

If by that you mean purchasing heavy weaponry and cultivating the skill and willpower to use it, we are good to go. As for the worse case scenario, unless things change soon there is no avoiding it. We might as well plan to come out on top. If history judges us harshly, so be it. If they feel strongly enough about it they can dig us up and burn our bones, assuming they still know how to make shovels.

50 posted on 03/28/2011 6:28:09 AM PDT by jboot
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