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US CENSUS DATA: Black Americans Are Moving South.
Business Insider ^ | 03/28/2011 | John Ellis

Posted on 03/28/2011 8:57:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Black Americans are leaving northern states and relocating in the south, US census data show. Blacks are not just leaving Michigan, as one would expect. They are leaving New York and Illinois and the two major cities therein: New York City and Chicago.

The New York Times reports that those leaving tend to be "younger and better educated." Walter Mead has a long post today on what this reversal of "the great migration" means for the "Big Blue" model of Democratic Party governance. Here's an excerpt:

"The failure of blue social policy to create an environment which works for Blacks is the most devastating possible indictment of the 20th century liberal enterprise in the United States. Helping Blacks achieve the kind of equality and opportunity long denied them was more than one of many justifications for blue social policy: it was the defining moral task that has challenged and shaped American liberalism for the last fifty years.

The Census tells us that in the eyes of those who know best, these well intentioned efforts failed. Instead of heaven, we have hell across America’s inner cities. Blue economic policy has cut the creation of new private sector jobs to a trickle in our great cities, while the high costs of public union urban services (and policies that favor government employees over the citizenry at large) impose crippling taxes and contribute to the ruinously high costs that blight opportunity. All the social welfare bureaucracies, diversity counselors and minority set-asides can’t make up for the colossal failure of blue social policy to create sustainable lower middle class prosperity in our cities."

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2010census; blacks; blacksmovingsouth; census; censusanalysis; dixie; migration; south; trends

1 posted on 03/28/2011 8:57:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Does anyone have any figures regarding which direction Hispanic Americans are mostly moving?


2 posted on 03/28/2011 8:58:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
I can't help but be reminded of the scene in Huckleberry Finn where Huck is queried as to whether his companion Jim was a runaway. Huck's reply: "Goodness sakes, would a runaway [slave] run south?

Proof positive that times have truly changed.

3 posted on 03/28/2011 9:00:21 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Are they taking their Democrat-voting proclivities with them? If so, they’re just going to wreck another location. White liberals do the same thing all the time.


4 posted on 03/28/2011 9:01:35 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: SeekAndFind

Does anyone have any figures regarding which direction Hispanic Americans are mostly moving?

Which ever place gives the most benefits.


5 posted on 03/28/2011 9:01:58 AM PDT by bikerman (Where Has My America Gone?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good for them.

Real estate is cheaper and the weather is better.


6 posted on 03/28/2011 9:03:34 AM PDT by Mears
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To: bikerman

RE: Which ever place gives the most benefits.

Well, if true, that means as blacks move South, Hispanics move North ( Northeast ) and Southwest (California).


7 posted on 03/28/2011 9:04:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Helping Blacks achieve the kind of equality and opportunity long denied them was more than one of many justifications for blue social policy: it was the defining moral task that has challenged and shaped American liberalism for the last fifty years.

Yeah, right. The only "moral task" the Left has had in regard to black Americans is that they pull the D lever.

8 posted on 03/28/2011 9:06:31 AM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: SeekAndFind

blue = Red and red = Blue.


9 posted on 03/28/2011 9:06:37 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let me see. Young, well-educated blacks are moving south. Could it be that blacks too prefer economic opportunity to liberal government hand outs? Nah, that would undermine the liberal statist myth and upset the liberal strategy — keep them poor, stupid, and dependent.


10 posted on 03/28/2011 9:06:39 AM PDT by Juan Medén
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To: SeekAndFind

Norte.............


11 posted on 03/28/2011 9:06:48 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

RE: Proof positive that times have truly changed.

Yep, this is the great migration reversal that people don’t talk about (but will soon start talking about)


12 posted on 03/28/2011 9:07:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
"...The failure of blue social policy to create an environment which works for Blacks..."

The "Blue Social Policy" will never work.

Never.

People like Clarence Thomas and Thomas Sowell have a crystal clear understanding of that, but they are ostracized, ridiculed and rejected by the very people who would benefit from that conviction.

13 posted on 03/28/2011 9:08:57 AM PDT by rlmorel (The first casualty of Liberalism is The Truth...)
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To: Red Badger

RE: Norte.............

¿Porque Norte? ¿Por qué no sur?


14 posted on 03/28/2011 9:09:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Juan Medén
Bingo. New England? The entire Great Lakes region? Looks like the black population is fleeing those areas. But, everyone is fleeing those areas. Lots of population loss, because Liberal Democrats have killed the economy in those areas.

Maybe this isn't about race at all. Maybe it's just a reflection of the fact that Democrats kill jobs.

15 posted on 03/28/2011 9:10:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

It’s quite an irony that the new cursed plantations are in the north, not the South, while the South beckons with the old fashioned race blind American dream of opportunity to earn one’s way into prosperity rather than subsist on subsidies.


16 posted on 03/28/2011 9:11:25 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: SeekAndFind

Which, I guess, shows us that the South is not as racist as some would have us believe.


17 posted on 03/28/2011 9:11:29 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

mark my words: rednecks come in many colors (bless them all)


18 posted on 03/28/2011 9:12:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: SeekAndFind
The New York Times reports that those leaving tend to be "younger and better educated."

Which is exactly what started the whole problem. Back in the bad old days when we were stupid and bigoted and had segregation, at least the potentially bad kids had positive role models around them (pharmacists, lawyers, doctors) all living in the same neighborhoods. Then we got integrated, and the ones who COULD get out, did! All the NYT is saying is that it's still happening...the only ones left are the ones who can't or won't get out.
19 posted on 03/28/2011 9:14:42 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: SeekAndFind

In other words liberals are moving south and red states will become blue. Blue states in the south will be bluer.


20 posted on 03/28/2011 9:15:33 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Big deal. EVERYBODY’S headed south to get away from “global warming.”


21 posted on 03/28/2011 9:18:18 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Does anyone have any figures regarding which direction Hispanic Americans are mostly moving?

They are moving all over the country. Several years ago the highest populations of Hispanics in cities were L.A., Houston and Chicago. That may still be true but they are in cities all over the place.

22 posted on 03/28/2011 9:19:14 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"The failure of blue social policy to create an environment which works for Blacks ..."
Since when is "blacks" a proper noun? Why don't I ever see "Whites?"

Black Americans Are Moving South
Gee, I wonder why?
23 posted on 03/28/2011 9:20:36 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

About 20 years ago while getting on an Interstate highway in rural Georgia, I stopped to pick up a hitchhiking black man (I’m white/tan/pink). Since we were about the same age (early 40’s) and he was wearing a “field jacket”, I asked if he had been in ‘Nam. Our ensuing veterans conversation served to melt the ice and establish a trust and bond.

As we headed toward Atlanta he told me that he was originally from the area but had headed North as soon as he finished high school to “get out of this racist redneck place”. He went to New York and later married a New York girl. He was back South visiting his folks.

He then said that he had been trying for ten years to get his wife to move south with him. She was terrified of the Klan and “Night Riders” and refused. He tried to explain that yes, there still was bias in the South, but that life was better and folks, black & white, looked out for each other. She could not believe him, since she “read the news and watched TV” and knew what it was like in Georgia.


24 posted on 03/28/2011 9:21:00 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("All it takes for Evil to triumph is for good MEN to do nothing." Edmund Burke)
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To: SeekAndFind
Speaking as a white person who lived in the north and has moved to the south, I'm not surprised.

There is far less racism and the weather is a lot nicer. When given an economic incentive, such as a new job, I'm sure they would prefer the warmer climate and nicer people.

25 posted on 03/28/2011 9:21:37 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It’s quite an irony that the new cursed plantations are in the north, not the South, while the South beckons with the old fashioned race blind American dream of opportunity to earn one’s way into prosperity rather than subsist on subsidies.

Well that is a bit exaggerated. Big time.


26 posted on 03/28/2011 9:24:35 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: SeekAndFind

Locusts move on when everything worth consuming is gone too.
Look at Detroit.


27 posted on 03/28/2011 9:28:07 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: napscoordinator

It’s comparatively so: black people with any true skills are getting the heck out of Dodge (um, Detroit, Chicago, etc.).


28 posted on 03/28/2011 9:29:10 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Disambiguator

Perhaps living in rural areas with GOP neighbors will change political leanings, too


29 posted on 03/28/2011 9:29:13 AM PDT by therightliveswithus
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To: oh8eleven

Oh, you do see “Whites” but usually it’s in racial diatribes by non “Whites.”


30 posted on 03/28/2011 9:31:50 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: SeekAndFind
97% of black voters voted for ZERO...
Merely 3% were SMART...

Maybe the 3% are leaving Union territory to where the JOBS ARE..?...

31 posted on 03/28/2011 9:33:15 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: MEGoody

Dirty little secret about the North that many lefties will NEVER admit:

Northern cities are much more racist than Southern cities.

I from NYC, lived in Boston,Charlotte, Montgomery and Atlanta.

Boston would be very KKK friendly if given the chance.


32 posted on 03/28/2011 9:35:28 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: blackdog
There is far less racism and the weather is a lot nicer.

One thing that can be thanked for this is the modernized (actually more accurately biblical) views of the churches of the bible belt. The creation account gives no hint of raising up races with inherent privileges, and virtually nobody buys the old slave-apologist fable about Noah's disrespectful son's own cursed son founding the African Negro race (no anthropological tie has been found).

33 posted on 03/28/2011 9:39:41 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: hosepipe

BTW, according to census blacks were 12% of the American population 10 years ago. Ten years later, guess what... they’re STILL 12% of the population.

Hispanics are the fastest growing, with Asians next. Whites have come down from 69% of the population to 64% the past ten years.


34 posted on 03/28/2011 9:41:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: MEGoody

The South has never been as racist as depicted in movies and the main stream media.

I’ve lived in Georgia all my life and HAVE seen some racist people but by far the biggest, most vocal racists I have encountered lately have been northern transplants who have NEVER lived and worked among large numbers of blacks. It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad and hypocritical.


35 posted on 03/28/2011 9:42:45 AM PDT by Josa
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To: Disambiguator
Are they taking their Democrat-voting proclivities with them? If so, they’re just going to wreck another location. White liberals do the same thing all the time.

Unfortunately they are, and they will. California, anyone? We can see glimpses of it already when the media gushed about how all the snowbirds who had moved to South Carolina in the past decade put McCain over the hump during the 2008 primary, or how an out-and-out leftist like Obama was able to win Virginia, and even North Carolina. And then there's Florida...
36 posted on 03/28/2011 9:44:06 AM PDT by Chiltepe
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To: SeekAndFind

I think that is the educated, working blacks ...the lazy dependent class,black white and brown are what NYS will be left with ..


37 posted on 03/28/2011 9:44:18 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If I do see it, it’s in the form of “honky” - “whitey” - or “cracker.” None capitalized.


38 posted on 03/28/2011 9:45:53 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
Northern cities are much more racist than Southern cities.

I agree completely. I grew up outside of Atlanta, in a rural area. 40% of my high school was made up of black students. Everybody got along fine. I traveled extensively with my work for nearly 20 years, hitting virtually every major city, a lot of the minor cities and 49 of 50 states total. My experience was the Northeast USA is, by far, the most racist part of the country. Especially Massachusetts.

39 posted on 03/28/2011 9:49:21 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
When we lived in South Carolina, there were no bars. I found this quite unusual since having lived in the north all my life. The local bar or tavern was a sort of community center.

Then I noticed something magical. Every evening people would come home from work and neighbors would all migrate to the front porch of someone on the street and it seemed to be on a rotating basis. Some had drinks in their hands, some had food to bring, and kids were always on point. Neighbors would chat, laugh, and dare I say even get a bit hammered. After an hour or two, the same people would migrate back to their home and call it a night. No television, kids got to play and let off steam, people got caught up on each other.

The south is far different. Not in the way the media passes it off though.

40 posted on 03/28/2011 9:50:30 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Disambiguator
Are they taking their Democrat-voting proclivities with them? If so, they’re just going to wreck another location. White liberals do the same thing all the time.

Yes, they do. After all, just because their political policies failed up there that doesn't mean they won't work in a new locale. They have been telling us that for 100 years and still there is no example of success.

Maybe this younger group has figured out that what they experienced up North was not the result of unintended consequences. It was on purpose.

However, I am not encouraged. A few months ago in Cedar Park, TX, I met a guy who had moved down from Michigan. His parents had preceded him. He was riding a bicycle and was unemployed. He was telling me how the Hispanics were being mistreated here and how, if they would put him in charge of a crew of 5 or 6 he would take them under his wing and take care of them. I told him I knew quite a few Hispanic construction workers and quite a few of those who hired them and I didn't now of a single case of mistreatment. In fact, all of them were happy, both workers and employers, and that the workers made about twice the minimum wage.

He said he had seen it, he had seen the mistreatment. I asked him where and he finally admitted that he hadn't found a job yet so he didn't see them on the job, but he had seen it.

Thanks, Michigan Democrats and unions.

41 posted on 03/28/2011 9:50:30 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government!)
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To: SeekAndFind
[ BTW, according to census blacks were 12% of the American population 10 years ago. Ten years later, guess what... they’re STILL 12% of the population. ]

American Blacks are aborting themselves to death..

BUT they are being replaced by many South American blacks being IMPORTED.. Many american blacks are hispanic american blacks..

Free RANGE american blacks are getting rarer.. replaced by the imported domesticated ones..

42 posted on 03/28/2011 9:59:37 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: SeekAndFind

Es demasiado abarrotado en el Sur!. ......


43 posted on 03/28/2011 10:08:39 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: SeekAndFind
Does anyone have any figures regarding which direction Hispanic Americans are mostly moving?

Eastern PA - specifically the Lehigh Valley.

44 posted on 03/28/2011 10:14:11 AM PDT by randita
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To: blackdog

We got those house bars here to. Here is a example of the racism I saw myself. Ken a black dude moved here from NY with not much more than the clothes on his and his wifes back, got a job in a hotel here. When people noticed he was walking to work they found out what kind of trouble he was having.
Everyone got together one night and started giving him stuff furniture clothes one guy even gave him an old car told him he could pay him a little when he got in better shape. Well Ken started to get an angry look on his face and started crying, ran out of the room. I was elected to follow him and find out what was wrong.
After talking a bit Ken told me he had been scared to death about moving down here and that the look on his face was not anger it was shock that this was the first time in his life that he did not feel like a GD N_____.


45 posted on 03/28/2011 10:16:47 AM PDT by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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To: MEGoody
Which, I guess, shows us that the South is not as racist as some would have us believe.

Having lived in both regions of the country, the real racism certainly isn't in Dixie. Given that the north tilts to the left, this axiom is at work:

LIBERALS LOVE HUMANITY BUT HATE PEOPLE.

46 posted on 03/28/2011 10:26:36 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Lees Swrd

And in the south it’s not about race. It’s about manners.


47 posted on 03/28/2011 10:35:51 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Red Badger

RE: Es demasiado abarrotado en el Sur!. ......

Pero, es incluso más concurrido en el Norte...


48 posted on 03/28/2011 10:57:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Es muy abarrotado en México D.F.! ............


49 posted on 03/28/2011 11:05:40 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: napscoordinator

I’ve lived in the South, (Louisiana), and the North, (Pennsylvania). I can say that the South is less racist and the black people are less militant. I had many black friends and neighbors, churchgoers, but in PA the churches were segrated and the black people lived in more segregated areas. If you went to a ‘black part of town, the people were downright rude and nasty to whites, demanding, belligerant, etc.


50 posted on 03/28/2011 12:05:46 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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