Skip to comments.Terri Schiavoís Family Sponsors Symposium on End of Life Issues
Posted on 03/28/2011 10:45:49 AM PDT by wagglebee
The family of Terri Schiavo, through their Terri Schiavo Life & Hope Network, will present a symposium on end-of-life issues before a special Mass to remember and honor the life of the disabled woman.
The mass, which will be held at Ave Maria University, a Florida-based Catholic college, will mark the anniversary of the death of the woman who rose to international attend when her husband sought and won permission from a court to take her life via a painful 13-day starvation and dehydration death.
The symposium, entitled The Erosion of Medical Ethics, will be held on March 31 and Bobby Schindler, Terri’s brother and the director of the foundation bearing her name that tries to help disabled patients and their families, will be moderating the panel and also discuss how the removal of food and water to the cognitively disabled occurs daily in our society.
With health care rationing on the rise, it is crucial to educate our future attorneys on the moral and legal understandings as it relates to basic healthcare needs such as food and water,” he said. “In the future, these are the very men and women who will be essential to protecting the rights of the cognitively disabled, the elderly and medically dependent.”
He told LifeNews.com, “It is our hope that upon graduation they will be part of our Network of lawyers who fight for the lives of our vulnerable brothers and sisters.”
Speakers include Brother Paul ODonnell, Dr. Mark Mostert, Kristan Hawkins and Professor Richard Myers. They will discuss Catholic Church teaching as it relates to hydration and nutrition; historical prejudice to people with disabilities; health care and its potential effects on special needs patients; and the legal aspects of the Terri Schiavo case. The symposium is open to law students and faculty of Ave Maria School of Law.
Following the symposium Ave Maria University will host the The National Mass for Terris Day at the Ave Maria Oratory, located near Naples, Florida. The International Day of Prayer and Remembrance for Terri Schindler Schiavo, and All of Our Vulnerable Brothers and Sisters (“Terri’s Day”) was established in 2007 and is observed each year on March 31, the date of Terri’s death. Father Frank Pavone, the director of Priests for Life, will join again this year as the main celebrant for the event.
The purpose of this day is to foster education, prayer, and activism regarding discrimination against the cognitively disabled, and advocacy for people in situations similar to what Terri and her family faced. 40 Days for Life, a community-based campaign that over a period of 40 days attempts to transform individuals and communities to recognize the value and dignity of human life, will be observing Terris Day with prayer along with countless others who will be remembering Terri on this day.
The family is also sponsoring a fundraising concert in Ohio in June featuring the Beach Boys.
Indeed. We have a big, long fight ahead of us.
I have not yelled or screamed at you or anyone else. I’d ask if you had me confused with someone else, but I don’t think anyone else has either. You accused freepers of not being conservative because they told you they had received freepmail. I was trying to explain to you how that works. I was actually giving you credit for being intelligent enough to understand the explanation. LOL. My bad.
Obviously. And that's not conservatism, that's libertarianism. Conservatives defend the sanctity of life, even when it means (horrors!) feeding people.
All I am going to say is Good Night. It is after 10 pm over here on base so I need to get to bed as I have to be up at 0600 for PT in the morning. This thread has gotten too crazy so I best just leave. Have a good one.
The only reason that these businesses become broken is that the government breaks them and then steps in claiming to be the only solution.
They repeat this pattern over and over again. Many of us really need to wake up.
Excellent post, TOLady.
Whoa. Take it easy.
Yes I definitely see this. I just wish I would have been more understanding in my post. I did not even realize that “wagglebee” posted this until recently and here I am questioning this person. I am pro life but normally fighting for the babies. This whole “adult” life questioning is new to me. Trust me when I say that when you said pro-life it meant anti-abortion. When I am saying the rosary in front of an abortion mill, the fact that older folks were put out to pasture did not even come into our conscience. It just was not even possible that this type of thing was happening. I just don’t understand this killing old people thing.
I am now.....I showed my butt again....I don’t know if I will ever learn. lol.
*hiss* And I missed it!
Take a look at the picture in post 17, it's ALWAYS been about money. Abortion is about money too (you will almost never see an abortuary in an affluent part of town).
The left realizes that their best chance at pushing death will ALWAYS be to make it about money.
That happened to me too. I finally realized the pro-life was more than anti-abortion.
Thank you for your service, and I hope your retirement goes really well for you. :-)
One is either pro-life, or one is not.
lol. It is ugly anyway, just like my attitude tonight. I sincerely apologize to you and wagglebee. I hate when I get this way. It even makes things worse. You know I used to upset people like crazy with homeschool....I used to think it was a complete waste of time and folks didn’t take it seriously. However, I received three Sailors who proved to me that I was 100 percent wrong and now I am a proponent big time. Trust me Wintertime used to “hate” me like you could not believe. It took me seeing the process of homeschool and it working to get me out of my ignorant nonsense. Same with Sarah Palin, in 2009, I was a complete idiot with my negativity, but I studied and learned from FREEPERS about the truth of Sarah Palin and now I would love her to be President and I am a cheerleader too.....just ask “Oynx” She would be on my butt constantly about my stupidity. lol. Well to me this “older” folks getting murdered is relatively new and this just proves that I am ignorant about the subject and will get my act together. The process for me on Free Republic has been so positive that I just can’t say well I am not worthy of this site because the knowledge I have gained on here would make your hair stand up on your head. It is incredible. Yes I know I made you so mad tonight but I just think that after 5 years I have gained more than not. So now that I have babbled on and on, I seriously must get to bed. lol. The CO won’t be happy if I am late especially if the Sailors are there and I come strolling in after 6 o’clock (am).
That finally sank into my punkin head about 15 years ago.
[blush that it took that long]
I don’t think that any of us could have predicted this change in our treatment of the elderly and disabled, and certainly not a change in such a short time. It’s staggering.
Thank you soooooo much! You made my day! :-)
Wow! That’s one of the best posts I’ve seen here. You should be proud, and sleep well tonight.
SOYLENT GREEN of the unborn.
People are killed for their money and with their own money.
Thanks for the ping.
May the Lord bless their efforts.
That gave me goose bumps. Thank you for sharing your beautiful thoughts.
I’ll never forget Terri, her family, nor those few who were willing to stand up for her and speak for her when she could not do it for herself.
Rest in peace, Terri.
You are at peace in Heaven, Terri. We fought for you and were left brokenhearted. We will remember you always.
All those in Congress who voted for DeathCare voted to allow Big Brother the power over end of life care for We The People. In other words, families will be denied these choices. Elitists in DC have declared that they know better than you and I.
Liberal Elitists Hussein Obama, Plugs Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Dingy Harry Reid et al. voted to declare Big Brother the ultimate power over who lives and who dies via their Death Panels and rationed care.
John Boehner promised We The People that he would lead the charge to repeal this outrage. So far, he’s all talk, IMO.
Moral Blindness Vs. Inalienable Rights
The founders of the United States believed that We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. (Adams, Franklin, & Jefferson, 1776). This concept is based on morality and it seems as though the idea of good morality changes from year to year. Changing times and ideas are mostly considered a great quality but it can also create moral blindness. For example, when white individuals owned black slaves it did not make the slaves any less of a human being than the whites in societys eyes today, but during that time they were believed to be less than human. The Dred Scott case was a pure example of this moral blindness. Each state had a choice whether to be a slave state or a free state but there had to be a balance of each in the Union. For instance, Missouri joined the Union through the Missouri Compromise of 1820 and it was a slave state next to Illinois, which was a free state. Illinois came from the Northwest Territory; given by Virginia to the United States in the Northwest Compact of 1784-85. The compact was the basis of the Northwest Ordinance of 1787; in reference to the balance of slave owning and free states, article 5 says:
There shall be formed in the said territory, not less than three nor more than five States. . . . And, whenever any of the said States shall have sixty thousand free inhabitants therein, such State shall be admitted, by its delegates, into the Congress of the United States, on an equal footing with the original States in all respects whatever, and shall be at liberty to form a permanent constitution and State government: Provided, the constitution and government so to be formed, shall be republican, and in conformity to the principles contained in these articles; and, so far as it can be consistent with the general interest of the confederacy, such admission shall be allowed at an earlier period, and when there may be a less number of free inhabitants in the State than sixty thousand. (Thope, 1909).
Scotts new owner moved him to Illinois for two years, since Illinois was a free state you could take a slave through that territory but one could not keep them there long enough to become residents. If an owner failed to move the slave in the limited transit time period of two weeks then the slave became free. Scott was in Illinois for two years, which by far exceeds the time limit of the transit time, and by law made Scott a free man. After residing in Illinois for two years, Dreds owner relocated to Wisconsin, and under the Missouri Compromise law of 1820 said that slaves taken into this area and residing in it were free by force of federal law. Also, The Northwest Ordinance of 1787 states in article 6:
There shall be neither slavery nor involuntary servitude in the said territory, otherwise than in the punishment of crimes whereof the party shall have been duly convicted: Provided, always, That any person escaping into the same, from whom labor or service is lawfully claimed in any one of the original States, such fugitive may be lawfully reclaimed and conveyed to the person claiming his or her labor or service as aforesaid. (Thrope, 1909).
These are just two of the many examples of how the court system failed a man who, according to federal law, was free, because of a morally blind majority. Dred Scott was treated as though he was merely property and not a human being that was entitled to his inalienable rights. The Preamble, which is stated above, clearly proves that not everyone believed this ludicrous ideological nonsense that whites were more human than blacks. Although, the court system overlooked the laws that Congress had put forth for all Americans to live by, which caused the government to fail in ending slavery immediately, the government laid the foundation for the Dred Scott case to change the way Americans viewed slavery altogether. The 13th Amendment, section 1 boldly states: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. (1776). Clearly, Scott was stripped of his rights as a human being without committing a single crime and was denied his freedom as an American even though by law he was said to be a free man. Also, in 1868 the 14th amendment was written, every clause from the 14th amendment directly overturns some holding of the Scott case. The 14th amendment, section 1 state:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law, which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. (1776).
The Dred Scott case opinion clearly stated that these rights only applied to white people, but even then there was no federal power to correct the situation if a state deprived whites of their inalienable rights. The immorality of the judges who handled Scotts fate kept him bound as a slave because in their eyes they saw only saw him as a piece of property and not an American citizen.
Immorality does not just base itself to race or generation, but it can be found in any part of life. For instance, Dred Scott was a black male in the 1800s that white judicial elitist saw as property, but in the case of Terri Schiavo, she was a white female that lived in the current generation with abundant freedom.
Terri Schiavo was in her mid-twenties when she suffered cardiac arrest that left her in a coma. The reasoning behind her cardiac arrest, doctors believe, was due to having Bilema Nervosa. She recovered from her coma, but the lack of oxygen to her brain left her impaired. She could breathe, sleep, wake up, and responded to sounds and even pain all on her own. She was unable to speak but communicated through grunts and groans. Doctors diagnosed her to be in a Persistent Vegetative State (PVS) and sent her to a Hospice facility for care.
The facility took very good care of Schiavo while her parents and her husband contributed finances. In the beginning everyone believed that if she was under constant care that she would recover even more from the cardiac arrest. When her condition failed to gain improvement her husband grew weary of the situation and decided it was time for Terri to stop suffering. He then took the matter to the Florida circuit courts to have Terris nutrition stopped. Her wishes for this type of situation were never written down in any kind of document and her husband was using hear-say in the courts to say she did not wish to live in PVS.
The issue became heated and went nation wide, many people supported the life of Terri, and even the Republican Party stepped in with Jeb Bush as Terris spokesperson. The outcome was the courts decided to take away all nutrition and care from Terri and she died 13 days later of starvation and dehydration.
Paul McHugh, a Professor of Psychiatry for Johns Hopkins University with experience in Hospice, believes that Hospice did not live by their oath to Schiavo. He states:
In hospice care, no one is deprived of the simple amenities of being kept clean and receiving food and water. In Terri Schiavos case, just as the team did not withdraw her bladder catheter, which helped keep her clean, so it did not withdraw the gastric tube, which had similarly been put in place during the rescue phase in order to ease the burden of nursing her. If for some reason the gastric tube had to be removed, the team would surely have tried to sustain nutrition by feeding her with spoon and cup.
In a hospice, decisions to limit medical services are made easier by everyones knowledge of how the patients condition emerged. Team attention, emphasizing as it does all relevant perspectives, strives to support all relevant interests. Terri Schiavo received good care and treatment, and would not have been permitted to suffer unnecessarily. At the same time, she would not have been carried repeatedly through processes of treatment that ultimately did nothing to advance the quality of her life (McHugh, 2005).
Basically, Mchugh is saying that Hospice gives an individual the amount of care they need to keep them from suffering, but does not do anything medically to keep them alive. Terris body was living on its own with others assisting her in keeping her clean and fed. Hospice was doing their every day duties that they do with each of their individuals, why was Terri chosen to be the one to die? Why did they courts pick her and not another individual in their care?
The decision made by the courts was one that scared many citizens of America. Terri did not leave any written document to say she did not want to live in PVS, she was being taken care of by Hospice and financially by her family. How did the courts have any jurisdiction in a human beings life that did not commit any criminal act? How does one person, Michael Schiavo, Terris husband, and a court take her life away? This showed Americans that they do not have complete control over their well-being. It showed them that even as unpopular as the decision was it all came down to a judges ruling.
Moral blindness knows no generation limit, race, gender, or age. Americans must realize that a court system is much more powerful then they may believe. These two instances make it perfectly clear it does matter who sits in the judges chair and they do not only deal with criminals and civil cases. These two cases dealt with two innocent citizens lives and the citizens lost. In reality, they ultimately show that justice is not always fair. It can be quite cruel and sometimes the people in the wrong win.
1. (1776). The Constitution. Philidelphia, Pennsylvania. 2. Adams, J, Franklin, B, & Jefferson, T. (1776). The Preamble. (1776). The Constitution. Philidelphia, Pennsylvania 3. McHugh, P. (2005, June). Annihilating Terri Schiavo. Commentary Magazine 4. Thorpe, F. N. (1909). (1909). The Northwest ordinance of 1787
IMHO, this thinking comes from abortion, but the truth is, we have done this from the beginning of the Union. When condemned cop killers can drag out their appeals for 25 years and get taxpayer support, even including cancer treatments food and board, and a defenseless wife, having done nothing to be convicted of is put to death in such a way we would arrest a person if they treated a pet that way,... I'm just confused at what happened to the national morality.
Right here on FR, we see a divide of the people that understand she was murdered by society and others that want to strip her of the rights we give a dog in a shelter.
This is important especially now, because someone you know, maybe even family will be at the mercy of the government budgets and panels of people deciding what will be paid for and how much. If you don't want this care, then by all means have a living will. But if you don't have a living will, who are we to decide that this person or that is no longer deserving of human rights. You will find quickly how fickle even your friends will be with YOUR rights.
I've often chuckled at myself as I read the news and wished I was King. Oh, the people that I would decapitate at the slightest infraction of what I thought was justice. Liberals in chain gangs, progressives put to death if they speak up, NOW women used as shark bait to save money at SeaWorld. The mind boggles at the inhumanity I would be incapable of. The heart is a dark and evil thing, who can know it? So in our zeal to save money, we cut money off for food and water for a helpless woman, but somehow find money to give to Egypt for weapons because they aren't attacking Israel? Terri's family already said they would gladly take care of her at no taxpayer expense, but we still couldn't stand to let her live one more day. The husband had already re married( common law) so how did he have any say over his ex wife? The whole case was ridiculous. If anyone believes liberals in charge would prevent cruelty beyond comprehension, look at Russia, Nazi's, Cuba, and almost any other leftist regime in history. How is lining someone up in front of a ditch and cutting off their food supply any different? Just watch what happened in Ukraine before WWII.
The courts are there to protect the weak from the strong and in Terri's case, we obviously failed. Have we done ANYTHING to prevent another failure? The next case will be here before you know it and I only hope it doesn't involve me or mine. I wonder what would happen if Bill Ayres had a stroke and drooled on himself while he made grunts and groans? You can bet the government would raise him to hero-ship and pass a bill to care for him in perpetuity. A Freeper/Tea Partier,.....not so much.
Prayers to the Schiavo Family as they witnessed the murder of their daughter, sister, and friend. She is now with Jesus who suffered a horrible murder as well.
Very well put, except for the technicality that Obama and Biden - as POTUS and VPOTUS - didn't vote for the disaster but vigorously supported it, then Obama signed it into law.
John Boehner promised We the People that he would lead the charge to repeal this outrage. So far, he's all talk, IMO.
Well, not quite. The House did pass a repeal bill, but the 'Rat controlled Senate did nothing on it. Now Boehner and the House GOP has to defund Obamacare and its bureaucratic infrastructure in its budget bill(s). And if the 'Rats don't agree to it and the government is shut down (except for non-discretionary functions), most of us won't miss it one bit. Plus, unlike 1995, the 'Rats will take the blame. Time for a budget showdown, Mr. Speaker!
Thanks. Who is the author of the poem?
Thanks for the ping!
I am as conservative as they come but you'd sentence someone to a horrible death to save a buck? It's one thing they demand my tax dollar to pay for tummy tucks and sex changes and I'd stand with you on that, but I think I can handle my share of the expense of keeping someone comfortable in their last days with a drink of water.
Bump for later. There will be napalm.
You are right and I should have never posted that and I am sorry.
Me, Mrs. Don-o.
Moreover, Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, volunteered to care for her and assume her expenses, if need be, letting Michael keep the money! But Judge Greer wouldn't even permit that,
I have gotten odd responses from a handful of people about the Schiavo case, but fortunately, none who openly opined that an estranged husband ought to be allowed to rid himself of his disabled wife by starving her to death.
Beautiful remembrance. Thank you.
Six years now since this beautiful person left us, at the hands of cruel and heartless men, supported by an ugly and monstrous legal system.