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Terri Schiavoís Family Sponsors Symposium on End of Life Issues
Life News ^ | 3/28/11 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 03/28/2011 10:45:49 AM PDT by wagglebee

The family of Terri Schiavo, through their Terri Schiavo Life & Hope Network, will present a symposium on end-of-life issues before a special Mass to remember and honor the life of the disabled woman.

The mass, which will be held at Ave Maria University, a Florida-based Catholic college, will mark the anniversary of the death of the woman who rose to international attend when her husband sought and won permission from a court to take her life via a painful 13-day starvation and dehydration death.

The symposium, entitled The Erosion of Medical Ethics, will be held on March 31 and Bobby Schindler, Terri’s brother and the director of the foundation bearing her name that tries to help disabled patients and their families, will be moderating the panel and also discuss how the removal of food and water to the cognitively disabled occurs daily in our society.

“With health care rationing on the rise, it is crucial to educate our future attorneys on the moral and legal understandings as it relates to basic healthcare needs such as food and water,” he said. “In the future, these are the very men and women who will be essential to protecting the rights of the cognitively disabled, the elderly and medically dependent.”

He told LifeNews.com, “It is our hope that upon graduation they will be part of our Network of lawyers who fight for the lives of our vulnerable brothers and sisters.”

Speakers include Brother Paul O’Donnell, Dr. Mark Mostert, Kristan Hawkins and Professor Richard Myers. They will discuss Catholic Church teaching as it relates to hydration and nutrition; historical prejudice to people with disabilities; health care and its potential effects on special needs patients; and the legal aspects of the Terri Schiavo case. The symposium is open to law students and faculty of Ave Maria School of Law.

Following the symposium Ave Maria University will host the “The National Mass for Terri’s Day” at the Ave Maria Oratory, located near Naples, Florida. The International Day of Prayer and Remembrance for Terri Schindler Schiavo, and All of Our Vulnerable Brothers and Sisters (“Terri’s Day”) was established in 2007 and is observed each year on March 31, the date of Terri’s death. Father Frank Pavone, the director of Priests for Life, will join again this year as the main celebrant for the event.

The purpose of this day is to foster education, prayer, and activism regarding discrimination against the cognitively disabled, and advocacy for people in situations similar to what Terri and her family faced. 40 Days for Life, a community-based campaign that over a period of 40 days attempts to transform individuals and communities to recognize the value and dignity of human life, will be observing “Terri’s Day” with prayer along with countless others who will be remembering Terri on this day.

The family is also sponsoring a fundraising concert in Ohio in June featuring the Beach Boys.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; moralabsolutes; prolife; terrischiavo
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To: BykrBayb

Indeed. We have a big, long fight ahead of us.


51 posted on 03/28/2011 1:19:49 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: napscoordinator

I have not yelled or screamed at you or anyone else. I’d ask if you had me confused with someone else, but I don’t think anyone else has either. You accused freepers of not being conservative because they told you they had received freepmail. I was trying to explain to you how that works. I was actually giving you credit for being intelligent enough to understand the explanation. LOL. My bad.


52 posted on 03/28/2011 1:20:04 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ √ě)
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To: napscoordinator
All I care about right now is the debt.

Obviously. And that's not conservatism, that's libertarianism. Conservatives defend the sanctity of life, even when it means (horrors!) feeding people.

53 posted on 03/28/2011 1:21:34 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: BykrBayb

All I am going to say is Good Night. It is after 10 pm over here on base so I need to get to bed as I have to be up at 0600 for PT in the morning. This thread has gotten too crazy so I best just leave. Have a good one.


54 posted on 03/28/2011 1:25:02 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: TheOldLady
Indeed. No true Conservative would think twice about voluntarily contributing to a fund for the uninsured, dying poor. Our entire point, the entire argument about zer0-death-care is that the government has no business taking over any business, let alone health care and health insurance.

The only reason that these businesses become broken is that the government breaks them and then steps in claiming to be the only solution.

They repeat this pattern over and over again. Many of us really need to wake up.

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Excellent post, TOLady.

55 posted on 03/28/2011 1:25:27 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

True.


56 posted on 03/28/2011 1:26:01 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

Whoa. Take it easy.


57 posted on 03/28/2011 1:26:58 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TheOldLady; wagglebee

Yes I definitely see this. I just wish I would have been more understanding in my post. I did not even realize that “wagglebee” posted this until recently and here I am questioning this person. I am pro life but normally fighting for the babies. This whole “adult” life questioning is new to me. Trust me when I say that when you said pro-life it meant anti-abortion. When I am saying the rosary in front of an abortion mill, the fact that older folks were put out to pasture did not even come into our conscience. It just was not even possible that this type of thing was happening. I just don’t understand this killing old people thing.


58 posted on 03/28/2011 1:34:28 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: trisham

I am now.....I showed my butt again....I don’t know if I will ever learn. lol.


59 posted on 03/28/2011 1:35:29 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator; trisham
I showed my butt again

*hiss* And I missed it!

60 posted on 03/28/2011 1:41:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: napscoordinator
Did you read my entire post? I was talking about money wasn’t I? Did I have to add who pays for what at the end of my statements?

Take a look at the picture in post 17, it's ALWAYS been about money. Abortion is about money too (you will almost never see an abortuary in an affluent part of town).

The left realizes that their best chance at pushing death will ALWAYS be to make it about money.

61 posted on 03/28/2011 1:45:40 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: napscoordinator

That happened to me too. I finally realized the pro-life was more than anti-abortion.

Thank you for your service, and I hope your retirement goes really well for you. :-)


62 posted on 03/28/2011 1:50:48 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: napscoordinator; wagglebee; TheOldLady; BykrBayb; DJ MacWoW
The two issues are really the same. Regardless of where we are in our lives, whether in the womb or further along the way, being pro-life should be a consistent belief and corresponding action. If we approached abortion as some have approached end of life issues, we would ask first what economic repercussions saving an unborn child would have. " What if the mother can't afford the baby ?" would be as important as "Who's going to pay for the hospital stay?" for someone like Terri Schiavo, or for baby Joseph.

One is either pro-life, or one is not.

63 posted on 03/28/2011 1:59:24 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; wagglebee; wintertime; Oynx

lol. It is ugly anyway, just like my attitude tonight. I sincerely apologize to you and wagglebee. I hate when I get this way. It even makes things worse. You know I used to upset people like crazy with homeschool....I used to think it was a complete waste of time and folks didn’t take it seriously. However, I received three Sailors who proved to me that I was 100 percent wrong and now I am a proponent big time. Trust me Wintertime used to “hate” me like you could not believe. It took me seeing the process of homeschool and it working to get me out of my ignorant nonsense. Same with Sarah Palin, in 2009, I was a complete idiot with my negativity, but I studied and learned from FREEPERS about the truth of Sarah Palin and now I would love her to be President and I am a cheerleader too.....just ask “Oynx” She would be on my butt constantly about my stupidity. lol. Well to me this “older” folks getting murdered is relatively new and this just proves that I am ignorant about the subject and will get my act together. The process for me on Free Republic has been so positive that I just can’t say well I am not worthy of this site because the knowledge I have gained on here would make your hair stand up on your head. It is incredible. Yes I know I made you so mad tonight but I just think that after 5 years I have gained more than not. So now that I have babbled on and on, I seriously must get to bed. lol. The CO won’t be happy if I am late especially if the Sailors are there and I come strolling in after 6 o’clock (am).


64 posted on 03/28/2011 2:02:10 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

:)


65 posted on 03/28/2011 2:05:21 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Indeed.

That finally sank into my punkin head about 15 years ago.

[blush that it took that long]


66 posted on 03/28/2011 2:06:15 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: napscoordinator
There have been Freepers posting about their parents and THEM being denied procedures already. It's going to get ugly!

Goodnight.

67 posted on 03/28/2011 2:09:14 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: TheOldLady

I don’t think that any of us could have predicted this change in our treatment of the elderly and disabled, and certainly not a change in such a short time. It’s staggering.


68 posted on 03/28/2011 2:13:03 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: napscoordinator

Thank you soooooo much! You made my day! :-)


69 posted on 03/28/2011 2:20:20 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: napscoordinator

Wow! That’s one of the best posts I’ve seen here. You should be proud, and sleep well tonight.


70 posted on 03/28/2011 5:15:58 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ √ě)
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To: napscoordinator
Thank you very much for that post! :-)
71 posted on 03/29/2011 5:26:17 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; Lesforlife
Did you see from les that a corporation is using aborted fetal cells for food taste testing as an additive for flavoring?

SOYLENT GREEN of the unborn.

72 posted on 03/29/2011 8:44:14 AM PDT by floriduh voter (People who don't pray: start.. People who pray: pray more.)
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To: wagglebee
Terri won over a MILLION dollars. That was supposed to be for her therapy and care. Where did it go? To pay for DEATH ATTORNEYS to kill her. Terri was murdered with her OWN MONEY. Tell that to your troll. The money argument doesn't work when someone with money (many times) is murdered by their spouse or their children.

People are killed for their money and with their own money.

73 posted on 03/29/2011 8:46:28 AM PDT by floriduh voter (People who don't pray: start.. People who pray: pray more.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%; 1000 silverlings; 1035rep; 109ACS; 11Bush; 11th Commandment; 17th Miss Regt; ...
REMEMBRANCE of EASTER 2005

Crowd my eyes, you bevies of daffodils,
And you forsythias in throngs of cheer,
Dandelion galaxies and fountains of trees.
Fill my mouth with the breath of hyacinths, you purple air
And you roistering breeze.

And you quince-buds so eager, you swelling seeds,
You squirrels running stitches across the loom
Of woven grasses, inflorescent weeds;
Jasmine-bush, loop me with your lariats of perfume.
Fill me, small birds, with your versicles,
And chuckled replies.

She is bleeding from the mouth and eyes.
Sate me then, Sun, all dapple and spangle
Crowd out all else
Lade me and load me, you skies
With blessings of warmth and breath
Let me see nothing else
But everything springing and skyey.

From the mouth and eyes.


for Terri Schindler Schiavo


74 posted on 03/31/2011 7:43:43 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Just to be is a Blessing; just to Live is Holy." Rabbi Abraham Heschel)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks for the ping.

May the Lord bless their efforts.


75 posted on 03/31/2011 7:53:32 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

BTTT


76 posted on 03/31/2011 7:55:13 AM PDT by E.G.C. (Edward's Soft Rock Playlist: On Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/my_playlists?p=A7A56731DE671E6A)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

That gave me goose bumps. Thank you for sharing your beautiful thoughts.


77 posted on 03/31/2011 7:59:17 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ √ě)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’ll never forget Terri, her family, nor those few who were willing to stand up for her and speak for her when she could not do it for herself.


78 posted on 03/31/2011 7:59:47 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Rest in peace, Terri.

79 posted on 03/31/2011 8:01:41 AM PDT by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; Sun
Beautiful!
80 posted on 03/31/2011 8:11:00 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You are at peace in Heaven, Terri. We fought for you and were left brokenhearted. We will remember you always.


81 posted on 03/31/2011 8:11:17 AM PDT by Bitsy ( i)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; bitt; MamaDearest; freekitty; flat; unkus; T.L.Sink; justiceseeker93; gonzo; ...

All those in Congress who voted for DeathCare voted to allow Big Brother the power over end of life care for We The People. In other words, families will be denied these choices. Elitists in DC have declared that they know better than you and I.

Liberal Elitists Hussein Obama, Plugs Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Dingy Harry Reid et al. voted to declare Big Brother the ultimate power over who lives and who dies via their Death Panels and rationed care.

John Boehner promised We The People that he would lead the charge to repeal this outrage. So far, he’s all talk, IMO.


82 posted on 03/31/2011 8:35:20 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: wagglebee
This is a copy of a paper my daughter wrote for a college class in law. She had to pick a SCOTUS case and write about it. Terri's case changed all our family as the Waco and Ruby Ridge cases did. When America fails, it changes history and gives someone something new to ponder. Morality is our foundation, but whose morality do we follow?

Moral Blindness Vs. Inalienable Rights

The founders of the United States believed that “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” (Adams, Franklin, & Jefferson, 1776). This concept is based on morality and it seems as though the idea of good morality changes from year to year. Changing times and ideas are mostly considered a great quality but it can also create moral blindness. For example, when white individuals owned black slaves it did not make the slaves any less of a human being than the whites in society’s eyes today, but during that time they were believed to be less than human. The Dred Scott case was a pure example of this moral blindness. Each state had a choice whether to be a slave state or a free state but there had to be a balance of each in the Union. For instance, Missouri joined the Union through the Missouri Compromise of 1820 and it was a slave state next to Illinois, which was a free state. Illinois came from the Northwest Territory; given by Virginia to the United States in the Northwest Compact of 1784-85. The compact was the basis of the Northwest Ordinance of 1787; in reference to the balance of slave owning and free states, article 5 says:

There shall be formed in the said territory, not less than three nor more than five States. . . . And, whenever any of the said States shall have sixty thousand free inhabitants therein, such State shall be admitted, by its delegates, into the Congress of the United States, on an equal footing with the original States in all respects whatever, and shall be at liberty to form a permanent constitution and State government: Provided, the constitution and government so to be formed, shall be republican, and in conformity to the principles contained in these articles; and, so far as it can be consistent with the general interest of the confederacy, such admission shall be allowed at an earlier period, and when there may be a less number of free inhabitants in the State than sixty thousand. (Thope, 1909).

Scott’s new owner moved him to Illinois for two years, since Illinois was a free state you could take a slave through that territory but one could not keep them there long enough to become residents. If an owner failed to move the slave in the limited transit time period of two weeks then the slave became free. Scott was in Illinois for two years, which by far exceeds the time limit of the transit time, and by law made Scott a free man. After residing in Illinois for two years, Dred’s owner relocated to Wisconsin, and under the Missouri Compromise law of 1820 said that slaves taken into this area and residing in it were free by force of federal law. Also, The Northwest Ordinance of 1787 states in article 6:

There shall be neither slavery nor involuntary servitude in the said territory, otherwise than in the punishment of crimes whereof the party shall have been duly convicted: Provided, always, That any person escaping into the same, from whom labor or service is lawfully claimed in any one of the original States, such fugitive may be lawfully reclaimed and conveyed to the person claiming his or her labor or service as aforesaid. (Thrope, 1909).

These are just two of the many examples of how the court system failed a man who, according to federal law, was free, because of a morally blind majority. Dred Scott was treated as though he was merely property and not a human being that was entitled to his inalienable rights. The Preamble, which is stated above, clearly proves that not everyone believed this ludicrous ideological nonsense that whites were more human than blacks. Although, the court system overlooked the laws that Congress had put forth for all Americans to live by, which caused the government to fail in ending slavery immediately, the government laid the foundation for the Dred Scott case to change the way Americans viewed slavery altogether. The 13th Amendment, section 1 boldly states: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.” (1776). Clearly, Scott was stripped of his rights as a human being without committing a single crime and was denied his freedom as an American even though by law he was said to be a free man. Also, in 1868 the 14th amendment was written, every clause from the 14th amendment directly overturns some holding of the Scott case. The 14th amendment, section 1 state:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law, which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. (1776).

The Dred Scott case opinion clearly stated that these rights only applied to white people, but even then there was no federal power to correct the situation if a state deprived whites of their inalienable rights. The immorality of the judges who handled Scott’s fate kept him bound as a slave because in their eyes they saw only saw him as a piece of property and not an American citizen.

Immorality does not just base itself to race or generation, but it can be found in any part of life. For instance, Dred Scott was a black male in the 1800’s that white judicial elitist saw as property, but in the case of Terri Schiavo, she was a white female that lived in the current generation with abundant “freedom”.

Terri Schiavo was in her mid-twenties when she suffered cardiac arrest that left her in a coma. The reasoning behind her cardiac arrest, doctors believe, was due to having Bilema Nervosa. She recovered from her coma, but the lack of oxygen to her brain left her impaired. She could breathe, sleep, wake up, and responded to sounds and even pain all on her own. She was unable to speak but communicated through grunts and groans. Doctors diagnosed her to be in a Persistent Vegetative State (PVS) and sent her to a Hospice facility for care.

The facility took very good care of Schiavo while her parents and her husband contributed finances. In the beginning everyone believed that if she was under constant care that she would recover even more from the cardiac arrest. When her condition failed to gain improvement her husband grew weary of the situation and decided it was time for Terri to stop “suffering”. He then took the matter to the Florida circuit courts to have Terri’s nutrition stopped. Her wishes for this type of situation were never written down in any kind of document and her husband was using hear-say in the courts to say she did not wish to live in PVS.

The issue became heated and went nation wide, many people supported the life of Terri, and even the Republican Party stepped in with Jeb Bush as Terri’s spokesperson. The outcome was the courts decided to take away all nutrition and care from Terri and she died 13 days later of starvation and dehydration.

Paul McHugh, a Professor of Psychiatry for Johns Hopkins University with experience in Hospice, believes that Hospice did not live by their oath to Schiavo. He states:

In hospice care, no one is deprived of the simple amenities of being kept clean and receiving food and water. In Terri Schiavo’s case, just as the team did not withdraw her bladder catheter, which helped keep her clean, so it did not withdraw the gastric tube, which had similarly been put in place during the rescue phase in order to ease the burden of nursing her. If for some reason the gastric tube had to be removed, the team would surely have tried to sustain nutrition by feeding her with spoon and cup.

In a hospice, decisions to limit medical services are made easier by everyone’s knowledge of how the patient’s condition emerged. Team attention, emphasizing as it does all relevant perspectives, strives to support all relevant interests. Terri Schiavo received good care and treatment, and would not have been permitted to suffer unnecessarily. At the same time, she would not have been carried repeatedly through processes of treatment that ultimately did nothing to advance the quality of her life (McHugh, 2005).

Basically, Mchugh is saying that Hospice gives an individual the amount of care they need to keep them from suffering, but does not do anything medically to keep them alive. Terri’s body was living on its own with others assisting her in keeping her clean and fed. Hospice was doing their every day duties that they do with each of their individuals, why was Terri chosen to be the one to die? Why did they courts pick her and not another individual in their care?

The decision made by the courts was one that scared many citizens of America. Terri did not leave any written document to say she did not want to live in PVS, she was being taken care of by Hospice and financially by her family. How did the courts have any jurisdiction in a human being’s life that did not commit any criminal act? How does one person, Michael Schiavo, Terri’s husband, and a court take her life away? This showed Americans that they do not have complete control over their well-being. It showed them that even as unpopular as the decision was it all came down to a judge’s ruling.

Moral blindness knows no generation limit, race, gender, or age. Americans must realize that a court system is much more powerful then they may believe. These two instances make it perfectly clear it does matter who sits in the judge’s chair and they do not only deal with criminals and civil cases. These two cases dealt with two innocent citizen’s lives and the citizen’s lost. In reality, they ultimately show that justice is not always fair. It can be quite cruel and sometimes the people in the wrong win.

Works Cited

1. (1776). The Constitution. Philidelphia, Pennsylvania. 2. Adams, J, Franklin, B, & Jefferson, T. (1776). The Preamble. (1776). The Constitution. Philidelphia, Pennsylvania 3. McHugh, P. (2005, June). Annihilating Terri Schiavo. Commentary Magazine 4. Thorpe, F. N. (1909). (1909). The Northwest ordinance of 1787

83 posted on 03/31/2011 8:56:59 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles
We have to ask ourselves how a probate judge, who usually decides who gets the silverware after a death, was able to sentence Terri to death having committed NO crime. A group of people decided she wasn't human and deserved no rights under our Constitution. We must ponder what will happen when a death panel, judge, or group, decides that mental handicaps, severe disease, or decreased mobility, diminishes our humanity to the point we are no longer human deserving legal protections.

IMHO, this thinking comes from abortion, but the truth is, we have done this from the beginning of the Union. When condemned cop killers can drag out their appeals for 25 years and get taxpayer support, even including cancer treatments food and board, and a defenseless wife, having done nothing to be convicted of is put to death in such a way we would arrest a person if they treated a pet that way,... I'm just confused at what happened to the national morality.

Right here on FR, we see a divide of the people that understand she was murdered by society and others that want to strip her of the rights we give a dog in a shelter.

This is important especially now, because someone you know, maybe even family will be at the mercy of the government budgets and panels of people deciding what will be paid for and how much. If you don't want this care, then by all means have a living will. But if you don't have a living will, who are we to decide that this person or that is no longer deserving of human rights. You will find quickly how fickle even your friends will be with YOUR rights.

I've often chuckled at myself as I read the news and wished I was King. Oh, the people that I would decapitate at the slightest infraction of what I thought was justice. Liberals in chain gangs, progressives put to death if they speak up, NOW women used as shark bait to save money at SeaWorld. The mind boggles at the inhumanity I would be incapable of. The heart is a dark and evil thing, who can know it? So in our zeal to save money, we cut money off for food and water for a helpless woman, but somehow find money to give to Egypt for weapons because they aren't attacking Israel? Terri's family already said they would gladly take care of her at no taxpayer expense, but we still couldn't stand to let her live one more day. The husband had already re married( common law) so how did he have any say over his ex wife? The whole case was ridiculous. If anyone believes liberals in charge would prevent cruelty beyond comprehension, look at Russia, Nazi's, Cuba, and almost any other leftist regime in history. How is lining someone up in front of a ditch and cutting off their food supply any different? Just watch what happened in Ukraine before WWII.

The courts are there to protect the weak from the strong and in Terri's case, we obviously failed. Have we done ANYTHING to prevent another failure? The next case will be here before you know it and I only hope it doesn't involve me or mine. I wonder what would happen if Bill Ayres had a stroke and drooled on himself while he made grunts and groans? You can bet the government would raise him to hero-ship and pass a bill to care for him in perpetuity. A Freeper/Tea Partier,.....not so much.

84 posted on 03/31/2011 9:59:51 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Prayers to the Schiavo Family as they witnessed the murder of their daughter, sister, and friend. She is now with Jesus who suffered a horrible murder as well.


85 posted on 03/31/2011 10:38:58 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: HonestConservative

ping


86 posted on 03/31/2011 12:45:05 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory; and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Liberal Elitists Hussein Obama, Plugs Biden Nancy Pelosi, Dingy Harry Reid et al. voted to declare Big Brother the ultimate power over who lives and who dies via their Death Panels and rationed care.

Very well put, except for the technicality that Obama and Biden - as POTUS and VPOTUS - didn't vote for the disaster but vigorously supported it, then Obama signed it into law.

John Boehner promised We the People that he would lead the charge to repeal this outrage. So far, he's all talk, IMO.

Well, not quite. The House did pass a repeal bill, but the 'Rat controlled Senate did nothing on it. Now Boehner and the House GOP has to defund Obamacare and its bureaucratic infrastructure in its budget bill(s). And if the 'Rats don't agree to it and the government is shut down (except for non-discretionary functions), most of us won't miss it one bit. Plus, unlike 1995, the 'Rats will take the blame. Time for a budget showdown, Mr. Speaker!

87 posted on 03/31/2011 1:14:12 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Lovely reminder.


88 posted on 03/31/2011 2:35:06 PM PDT by floriduh voter (People who don't pray: start.. People who pray: pray more.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks. Who is the author of the poem?


89 posted on 03/31/2011 6:10:00 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks for the ping!


90 posted on 03/31/2011 8:36:56 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: napscoordinator
Well I can say that I am serious about the money. Why should you or I pay? You probably are not a conservative but I am.

I am as conservative as they come but you'd sentence someone to a horrible death to save a buck? It's one thing they demand my tax dollar to pay for tummy tucks and sex changes and I'd stand with you on that, but I think I can handle my share of the expense of keeping someone comfortable in their last days with a drink of water.

91 posted on 03/31/2011 9:10:59 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: wagglebee

Bump for later. There will be napalm.


92 posted on 03/31/2011 9:54:05 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: bgill

You are right and I should have never posted that and I am sorry.


93 posted on 03/31/2011 10:03:11 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

That’s ok.


94 posted on 03/31/2011 10:07:51 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: lastchance

Me, Mrs. Don-o.


95 posted on 04/01/2011 6:13:34 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Gardeners abhor a vacuum.)
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To: napscoordinator
Terri Sciavo was not dependent on the state nor on public funding. She had been awarded $1 million in 1992 as result of a medical malpractice lawsuit, money deposited to a fund which was supposed to be used to pay for her medical expenses. Her estranged husband Michael had control of these funds, and he and his live-in girlfriend stood to benefit financially if Terri died.

Moreover, Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, volunteered to care for her and assume her expenses, if need be, letting Michael keep the money! But Judge Greer wouldn't even permit that,

I have gotten odd responses from a handful of people about the Schiavo case, but fortunately, none who openly opined that an estranged husband ought to be allowed to rid himself of his disabled wife by starving her to death.

96 posted on 04/01/2011 7:01:55 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("As it is written, the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you." Romans 2:24)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Beautiful remembrance. Thank you.

Six years now since this beautiful person left us, at the hands of cruel and heartless men, supported by an ugly and monstrous legal system.


97 posted on 04/01/2011 12:42:59 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: All
Pinged from Terri Dailies


98 posted on 04/03/2011 11:06:55 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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