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U.S. soldiers' 'kill team' killed Afghanis, used body parts in poker games: report
Daily News ^ | Corky Siemaszko

Posted on 03/28/2011 2:09:47 PM PDT by Nachum

Rogue U.S. soldiers snipped the pinky off an Afghan teen they killed for kicks - and later used it to wage a bet while playing spades, a blockbuster expose reports.

That's one of the shocking stories in a new Rolling Stone magazine expose of an Army "kill team" that targeted innocent Afghan civilians for death.

Staff Sgt. Calvin Gibbs, the squad leader and main target of the Army's ongoing war crimes investigation, allegedly sliced the finger off Gul Mudin - the approximately 15-year-old Afghan that Spc. Jeremy Morlock and Pfc. Andrew Holmes are accused of killing.

"When it came time for their wager, Morlock and Holmes said they would bet a finger," Mark Boal reported MOnday in the magazine. "Then they tossed the finger that Gibbs had sliced from Mudin's body on the card pile."

Seventeen revolting photographs taken by the soldiers - including one of a severed head and another showing a pair of blown off legs - accompany the article by Boal, who won an Oscar for writing "The Hurt Locker" screenplay.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


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1 posted on 03/28/2011 2:09:50 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Obama’s fault!


2 posted on 03/28/2011 2:10:31 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Nachum

Sounds like a bs screenplay all right.


3 posted on 03/28/2011 2:10:36 PM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: Nachum

Sounds like a bs screenplay all right.


4 posted on 03/28/2011 2:10:45 PM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: JaneNC

I’d watch a movie where there was a “kill squad” targeting “reporters”.


5 posted on 03/28/2011 2:12:28 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: Nachum
a new Rolling Stone magazine expose

Dude. . . I totally believe you. . . Gimme another hit off that. . .

6 posted on 03/28/2011 2:13:17 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: JaneNC

Isn’t it time to blame video games for the confusion between weird game play and reality?


7 posted on 03/28/2011 2:13:58 PM PDT by All Blue State
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To: Nachum

Next Daily News exculsive: US Soldiers Drink Afghan Babies Blood!


8 posted on 03/28/2011 2:15:45 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: RabidBartender

When you live in the shadow of death, a corpse
is just a thing, and there are worse things than
being dead.


9 posted on 03/28/2011 2:18:04 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Nachum

Sounds like another “Winter Soldier” to me. An attempt by leftist journalists to undermine our military in a time of war. Again.


10 posted on 03/28/2011 2:19:51 PM PDT by Judges Gone Wild (Who are these uncircumcised to oppose the armies of the Living God?)
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To: Nachum

There’s nothing like “innocent until proven guilty” when it comes to the press. The headline should reflect “allegedly”, and that the trial hasn’t happened. The press is always judge and jury when it comes to the military. I have nothing but disdain for them.


11 posted on 03/28/2011 2:20:37 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: JaneNC
"Spies Like Us"

We cut off a finger every time you don't answer a question. Mine or yours? responds Chevy Chase.

12 posted on 03/28/2011 2:21:24 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Nachum

Okay, isn’t this getting a over the top? We are supposed to believe that U.S. soldiers threw candy from vehicles and then shot the kids as they ran out to get the candy, or ran them over. Really.

I saw the photos. And they were disgusting. But some of this sounds like piling on in order to smear all of our military. And it’s Rolling Stone.

Come on....


13 posted on 03/28/2011 2:21:50 PM PDT by cld51860
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To: JaneNC

Unfortunately, there was a US squad, that took thousands of pictures of themselves killing innocents and taking trophies. They are now in the US facing trial. Der Spiegel broke it first.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/03/24/2749989_commentary-afghanistan-kill-squad.html?storylink=omni_popular


14 posted on 03/28/2011 2:22:10 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: Nachum
I do not believe this article. There would have to be extraordinary proof for that claim. I have been in four deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan and have met hundreds of soldiers, airmen and Marines. Not a one of them would “snip” off the finger of a dead insurgent. They might take the pictures, but there are very few who would have the stomach or desire to keep messing with the body. And in today's hyperventilating atmosphere, all of the NCOs I meet are very conscious of how easy a wrong move or word can be broadcast to the whole world in just a few moments.
15 posted on 03/28/2011 2:22:16 PM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Nachum

a severed head and another showing a pair of blown off legs

These are the photos the MSM doesn’t allow YOU to see,
but these men have to live with it.


16 posted on 03/28/2011 2:22:16 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68
I watched the video of the motorcycle shoot ... looks like a valid shoot to me , the afterwards they search the bodies ...they both have magazine pouches strapped on, they were the enemy.. SOP
17 posted on 03/28/2011 2:29:27 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Robe

Meanwhile the guys on the street have to make the call in a heartbeat on whether to shoot or not.


18 posted on 03/28/2011 2:32:57 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: wbarmy

I don’t WANT to believe this article, but if there’s truth to it, it’s monstrous, and diminishes the line between what we stand for and what they stand for. It’s a disservice to all the other troops fighting honorably in both theatres.

That said, I’m not going to jump on the “string ‘em up” bandwagon either until it’s proven.

We need to hold to a higher standard. If our boys are innocent here, then let their names be cleared and let the “journalists” who reported it twist in the wind. If they are guilty, they should be charged and punished to the full extent of the UCMJ.


19 posted on 03/28/2011 2:33:28 PM PDT by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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To: wbarmy

I don’t WANT to believe this article, but if there’s truth to it, it’s monstrous, and diminishes the line between what we stand for and what they stand for. It’s a disservice to all the other troops fighting honorably in both theatres.

That said, I’m not going to jump on the “string ‘em up” bandwagon either until it’s proven.

We need to hold to a higher standard. If our boys are innocent here, then let their names be cleared and let the “journalists” who reported it twist in the wind. If they are guilty, they should be charged and punished to the full extent of the UCMJ.


20 posted on 03/28/2011 2:33:40 PM PDT by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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To: Nachum
Kind of puts the panties-on-the-head thing into perspective.
21 posted on 03/28/2011 2:33:40 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (I agree with Louis Farrakhan. Who The Hell Is Obama!?)
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To: tet68
When you live in the shadow of death, a corpse is just a thing, and there are worse things than being dead.

Yes, reveling in the death itself and desecrating the body you have just killed .....

22 posted on 03/28/2011 2:35:31 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Our technology has surpassed our humanity........AE)
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To: Nachum

If U.S. soldiers are found guilty of participating in a Afghanistan ‘kill team’ that murdered innocent Afghanis for sport, should they face the death penalty?

Yes 70%
No 25%
I’m not sure 5%

Hard to believe some would give these young men the death penalty and yet Gitmo scum still live.


23 posted on 03/28/2011 2:40:53 PM PDT by timeflies
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To: blackdog

Creasy: I am going to ask questions. If you don’t answer fully and truthfully, you will suffer much more than you have to. I’m going to cut your fingers off. One by one, if I have to.


24 posted on 03/28/2011 2:43:08 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Nachum
Oh yeah? Well I read on Huffington Post that the US soldiers are all clones, and they've been programmed with like, drugs and chips in their brains and stuff? And they like, totally go out and kill people with chainsaws and stuff, and then they come back to base and have to be recharged like the Borg, and when they get like, worn out, they totally turn to dust.

It's true! I read it on the Internet.

25 posted on 03/28/2011 2:45:13 PM PDT by Dr. Sheldon Cooper (If Mohammed were alive today, he wouldnÂ’t be allowed to live within 1000 yards of a school.)
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To: Nachum

...I’ll see your boys thumb and raise you a grandmothers eyeball.....


26 posted on 03/28/2011 2:45:43 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: Nachum

THIS on Obama’s watch? THIS on Gate’s and Clinton’s watch. This is the same as if they committed these crimes and they need to go, hearings immediately as to what they knew and when they knew it. This begins at the top.


27 posted on 03/28/2011 2:49:40 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Judges Gone Wild; oneamericanvoice
Sounds like another “Winter Soldier” to me.

There’s nothing like “innocent until proven guilty” when it comes to the press.

Perhaps you should read the article in its entirety......

Morlock, shown in several pictures holding a dead man's head by the hair, has already pleaded guilty to murder during his court-martial.

28 posted on 03/28/2011 2:50:43 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Our technology has surpassed our humanity........AE)
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To: Nachum

Rolling Stone — the Jane Fonda of magazines.

Do not all wars kill civilians? Are not all wars Hell? Is winning not about, well, winning?

And the uproar is because? Softie libbies want to make nicey-nice with jihadists. Reminds me of that old hippie (RIP) who sang to grizzlies. Doesn’t work.


29 posted on 03/28/2011 2:57:32 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Heavyrunner

I don’t believe it


30 posted on 03/28/2011 2:59:54 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: wbarmy
I have been in four deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan and have met hundreds of soldiers, airmen and Marines. Not a one of them would “snip” off the finger of a dead insurgent.

First of all, thank you for all you done for the U.S and for freedom. Second, I believe your character witness testimony over this lurid story. Nevertheless, I have a sickening "here we go again" feeling.

31 posted on 03/28/2011 3:05:32 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: wbarmy

With the thousands of “trophy” pictures out there, Americans are going to be more than willing to believe the worst. Rolling Stone pretty much has license to print the most damaging hearsay their anonymous sources will give them. This will eventually break what’s left of the country’s will to fight this war any longer.

At the appropriate time, when it’s Afghanistan’s turn at the Wheel of Revolution, the MSM will dutifully take this story and run full-tilt with it. I’m guessing this will happen a little closer to Obama’s July withdrawal date, maybe early May. By then, with all hell breaking loose in Afghanistan, the average American will be demanding an end to the conflict and Obama will be more than happy to accommodate them.

From there, the chaos will spread to Pakistan. Shortly thereafter, the world will have a nuclear Taliban.

I hope like hell I’m wrong. But that’s where this appears to be headed.


32 posted on 03/28/2011 3:07:40 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: tet68
I did two tours in VN, dead is dead, but except sou veneering what ever was worth liberating you don't chop up a rotting corpse to messy.
33 posted on 03/28/2011 3:10:50 PM PDT by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Morlock, shown in several pictures holding a dead man's head by the hair, has already pleaded guilty to murder during his court-martial.

Yea. Pleading guilty. Apparently many on FR blow opinion before actually reading the article. This makes me ill frankly and I am not "proud" of these assholes in the least.

34 posted on 03/28/2011 3:15:05 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: ScreamingFist
Unfortunately, there was a US squad, that took thousands of pictures of themselves killing innocents and taking trophies. They are now in the US facing trial. Der Spiegel broke it first.

Rolling Stone has a video of some US soldiers killing a pair of Afghans on a motorcycle, on a page where they talk about our forces "killing civilians".

Unfortunately for Rolling Stone, when you actually view the video, the sharp-eyed viewer notices one of the dead Afghans is laying on top of an AK, and both are wearing AK mag harnesses. Discussed on this thread.

35 posted on 03/28/2011 3:19:32 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: tet68

My father who landed at Normandy and carried a BAR and
had two guys packing ammo for him was haunted by what he
saw done by GI`s to prisoners and casulties

People go a little crazy in war,sometimes a whole lot of crazy.That type are the fighters in a war

Those Rolling Stone suns of beaches still are evil leftists


36 posted on 03/28/2011 3:20:00 PM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I did read the article. Soldiers are trained to follow orders. That includes pleading guilty. Who says the dead were civilians? When fighting irregulars, the Geneva Convention does not apply.


37 posted on 03/28/2011 3:27:32 PM PDT by Judges Gone Wild (Who are these uncircumcised to oppose the armies of the Living God?)
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To: Harold Shea
People go a little crazy in war,sometimes a whole lot of crazy.That type are the fighters in a war

I suggest you don't take pictures of yourself committing war crimes. Not only were these public school educated morons killers, they provided evidence against themselves.

38 posted on 03/28/2011 3:28:54 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: Mashood

I’ll see the eyeball and raise you one gonad.Ugh!


39 posted on 03/28/2011 3:36:41 PM PDT by verity
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To: Harold Shea

I believe these acts are the result of being stuck in a foreign land with their lives in constant danger and no clear objective to give them a sense of purpose. They feel like they are “expendable” for no good reason, the ultimate disrespect that can be shown to a man. The lack of respect shown to our troops on the ground by the leadership in this breeds a lack of respect for everything else around them.

Not trying to justify what these jackholes did, and I hope they hang if they are guilty. But maybe dicking around for the last 10 years in A-Stan playing PC games without much tangible/visible change has consequences.


40 posted on 03/28/2011 3:53:40 PM PDT by EricT. (Can we start hanging them yet?)
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To: Nachum

I pray to God that the innocent are revealed and the guilty are punished - BUT - is it not gut wrenching to KNOW that it is only our side that polices itself?

There are countless perps on the other side that countenance and plan the blowing up little girls in their schools, suicide bombings in marketplaces, sectarian destruction of sacred places for political gains let alone LIVE BEHEADINGS filmed for the edification of the infidels!

Frankly I wish that this was sarcasm, but it is only TRUTH!


41 posted on 03/28/2011 4:04:50 PM PDT by SES1066 (Michael Moore - What's yours is mine, what's mine is mine and now you must pay me!)
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To: tet68
bump for later dissection.
42 posted on 03/28/2011 4:16:16 PM PDT by PLMerite (Thanks for fixing the clock.)
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To: Nachum

Of course the media will not report about this daily and attack the president as they did Bush with Abu Graib. Even though this looks 1000 time worse.

I’d like to hope this wasn’t real, but looks like they really did go sickhouse.
It’s war, gonna happen sometimes no matter how hard we
try for it not to happen.


43 posted on 03/28/2011 4:16:49 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: Judges Gone Wild
Who says the dead were civilians? When fighting irregulars, the Geneva Convention does not apply.

I'm constantly amazed at the barbaric ignorance of people such as you who are actually attempting to condone the proven actions of these individuals who represent the United States Military.....of which I am a proud past member of.

Since when does the decapitation and dismemberment of any individual, hostile combatant or civilian, deserve to be condoned or supported by an individual such as yourself? You are one sick bastard and a disgrace to any military uniform you might have ever worn.

The individuals found guilty in these war crimes deserve life imprisonment at hard labor for not only the heinous acts they committed but for the disgrace they have brought on to our United States Military..........

44 posted on 03/28/2011 4:17:27 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Our technology has surpassed our humanity........AE)
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To: verity

go all in with the head


45 posted on 03/28/2011 4:20:06 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Nachum

Lies.

LLS


46 posted on 03/28/2011 4:23:48 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: Nachum

BS


47 posted on 03/28/2011 4:27:24 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Nachum

Not buying it.


48 posted on 03/28/2011 4:30:16 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: La Enchiladita

I know several that have been over there. The ones I have spoken with and spent time with, would not have desecrated a kill. I have seen pictures, though. Pretty horrible stuff that I suggested they get rid of.


49 posted on 03/28/2011 4:33:59 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (How long before the Mall becomes Tahifir Sq?)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

One must keep in mind that the last eight to ten years have seen the development of digital cameras. Phone cameras, pocket cameras, etc.

In the past, war were fought in areas that were not conducive to the retention and development of film.

In addition, digital technology makes low light and lousy light photos much easier.

One has to wonder what GI photos would have come out of the jungles of WWII and VN had they had the digital technology.

And since most of these men and women are really just kids, without our years of wisdom (and having seen our share of people self destruct doing stupid things) I would expect them to take pictures of everything, and post them on facebook.

Not trying to excuse this, but explain why you see it now—and why it is more shocking that it had been int the past.


50 posted on 03/28/2011 4:40:47 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (How long before the Mall becomes Tahifir Sq?)
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