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To: Venturer; HiTech RedNeck; Mrs. Don-o; kearnyirish2
I like the Catholics stand on Homosexuals and Pedophilia, Now if they would place actions where their words are and dump Homosexual and Pedophile Priests we would be in complete agreement.

A good refresher is always helpful:

No need to differentiate between "homosexual" and "pedophile" priests, as they are virtually always one in the same. The media never wants you to know that overwhelming majority of complaints against Catholic priests were based on "consensual" relationships between those priests and gay teens who later found out from lawyers and people who played lawyers on TV that the money store was officially open. Not that statutory rape is excusable, but hardly the same as honest to goodness pedophilia. Sad, really, because a lot of that money that went to pay off those fag teenagers who had second thoughts would have gone to people who really needed it. The Catholic Church is the largest charitable organization on the planet. Sad also, because the idea of a "pedophile priest" is basically a fallacy. For all intents and purposes, none of the "victims" were little boys (or little girls for that matter). A Catholic priest is actually less likely to sexually abuse a minor than the male population in general. And pedophilia accusations are generally less common among among the Catholic clergy than among the clergy of just about any other religion you can name? Why? Easy: There is significantly more accountability and oversight within the Catholic clergy than in the other major (and minor) religions. That's the point of a hierarchy in the first place.

So where did this stereoype come from? Partially from the liberal media: The Catholic Church is, of course the world's greatest advocates of the pro-life, pro-family, anti-homosexual, pro- private charity, and pro-decency initiatives. Liberals hate that. Also, Catholicism being the nation's (and the world's) top religious denomination, there is a larger sample of priests to choose from, and a story makes a greater impact when it comes from there. Finally, as evidenced on FR, there is still plenty of anti-Catholic bigotry to go around in this world. A perfect example is a thread like this. A story written by homosexual criticizing the Church, always attracts a few jackasses who need to take his side and find another irrelevant fault to pile on.

The MSM loves to attack priests for something they are statistically no more guilty of than anyone else. Kids are actually in far greater danger in any number of situations, so why doesn't someone try to hijack every thread about coaches, or karate teachers, or scout leaders, or camp counselors, or day care providers, or rabbis, or ministers, or public school teacers. Shouldn't have to think too hard. You already know the answer.

33 posted on 03/28/2011 9:55:57 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

Just gotta say that it seems like you’re baiting the trolls by posting this crap. I mean, seriously. A homosexual activist from Portland, Oregon in “The National Examiner??? At least the comments on this thread are better reasoned than the original article.


38 posted on 03/28/2011 11:28:11 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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To: presidio9

Many good points; the homosexual priests set up the Church as an easy target for detractors. The consensual side of many of these relationships has consistently been ignored by the media; I have no problem with ignoring that for a minor, but here in NJ we had a 53 year-old man claim he had been abused 20 years before...at the tender age of 33. The media reporting the story felt no need to question or analyze this bizarre claim.

As long as the Church was acting in a similar manner to the civil authorities in terms of treatment and return to work, it is difficult to attack them; later actions (when governments started “civilly committing” such predators - imprisoning them beyond their sentences due to their own admissions that it would happen again) were unexcusable. The number of teachers in the NYC public schools involved with these crimes was incredible, as exposed by the Catholic League in demonstrating how the Church alone was being targeted.

Some people had valid reasons to attack the Church; others saw it as a useful battering ram. Groups like Voice of the Faithful were exposed when they switched from demanding accountability from to changing the structure of the Church.


41 posted on 03/29/2011 4:00:45 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: presidio9

I guess that’s why the Philadelphia just suspended 21 Priests on March 8 of this year. Also they have a Monsignor up for covering up and hiding these Priests.

Yes: I thought it was taken care of too, but it seems there are a few lingering around.


44 posted on 03/29/2011 6:09:08 AM PDT by Venturer
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