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AP Fact Check Destroys Obama's Libya Speech
FoxNation.com ^ | March 28 | Staff

Posted on 03/28/2011 6:52:29 PM PDT by JesseWatters

There may be less than meets the eye to President Barack Obama's statements Monday night that NATO is taking over from the U.S. in Libya and that U.S. action is limited to defending people under attack there by Moammar Gadhafi's forces. In transferring command and control to NATO, the U.S. is turning the reins over to an organization dominated by the U.S., both militarily and politically. In essence, the U.S. runs the show that is taking over running the show. And the rapid advance of rebels in recent days strongly suggests they are not merely benefiting from military aid in a defensive crouch, but rather using the multinational force in some fashion - coordinated or not - to advance an offensive. Here is a look at some of Obama's assertions in his address to the nation Monday, and how they compare with the facts:

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: caliphate; democrats; liar; libya; obama; obamaswar; obamatruthfile
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1 posted on 03/28/2011 6:52:31 PM PDT by JesseWatters
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 03/28/2011 6:56:07 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: JesseWatters

3 posted on 03/28/2011 6:58:54 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: JesseWatters

This is all moot given the fact that this “war” or whatever the hell Obama wants to call it is unconstitutional being enabled by a GOP beaten into submission.


4 posted on 03/28/2011 7:00:11 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: JesseWatters

oh snap!


5 posted on 03/28/2011 7:02:25 PM PDT by mockingbyrd
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

ROTFLMAO


6 posted on 03/28/2011 7:02:48 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: JesseWatters

OBAMA CRASH AND BURN...


7 posted on 03/28/2011 7:02:53 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Sure beats falling into a drunken stupor, if you get my drift.


8 posted on 03/28/2011 7:05:16 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: JesseWatters

I tinks his Libya efforts are threefold; to piss off any remaining American allies and effectively destroy NATO, to embroil America and its resources in the Kinetic Caliphate Consolidation and in doing so stretch America to make it vulnerable to the Kinetic movement.

This Libya thing AINT about Libya. Its smoke.

In the meanwhile its SLS. Spin, lie, spin.


9 posted on 03/28/2011 7:05:35 PM PDT by himno hero ("armageddon is well seeded, America will pay"...Barrack Obama)
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To: JesseWatters
“THE FACTS: Obama did not wait to make that case to Congress, despite his past statements that presidents should get congressional authorization before taking the country to war, absent a threat to the nation that cannot wait.

“The president does not have the power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation,” he told The Boston Globe in 2007 in his presidential campaign. “History has shown us time and again ... that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the legislative branch.”

Obama’s defense secretary, Robert Gates, said Sunday that the crisis in Libya “was not a vital national interest to the United States, but it was an interest.”

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_LIBYA_FACT_CHECK?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

10 posted on 03/28/2011 7:06:59 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: himno hero

Kinetic Military Action.

K

M

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11 posted on 03/28/2011 7:07:32 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: himno hero
I think you have it exactly right. Obama is trying to lose, and lose badly. He can take us down, take NATO down, and provide significant covert support for the creation of the Caliphate.

He is a destroyer of western civilization.

12 posted on 03/28/2011 7:07:57 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: JesseWatters

What a crock... This is nothing more then a WAR FOR OIL.... The EU gets a large portion of its oil from the Libyan OIL FIELDS, this is a dirty coalition that is only in it for self interest and Obama got played by the Europeans...

Typical...liberal idiocy on full display.


13 posted on 03/28/2011 7:11:08 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey ("It doesn't matter how smart you are, unless you stop and think".... Thomas Sowell)
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To: JesseWatters

I wonder who is more capable of following through on their word... Obama or Khadaffi?

We’ll find out soon.


14 posted on 03/28/2011 7:12:49 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: JesseWatters; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; ..
RE : ” In transferring command and control to NATO, the U.S. is turning the reins over to an organization dominated by the U.S., both militarily and politically. In essence, the U.S. runs the show that is taking over running the show.Fox Nation: AP Fact Check Destroys Obama's Libya Speech

Worth reading.

15 posted on 03/28/2011 7:13:54 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: ClearCase_guy

He’s bent on destroying our economy, our currency, our energy interests, our military, our long time alliances, and is offering the spoils of that war to the SEIU and other unions when he’s thru. That’s when he takes those unions and his show to either the UN or to a newly formed Marxist Jihadi Trade Union thuggery somewhere in the ME.


16 posted on 03/28/2011 7:15:38 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Typical_Whitey

Right, Obama get gamed and dragged kicking and screaming into Libya by a bunch of Euroweenies who have their own self-interests above everything else. This “war” is about oil and business for Europe.


17 posted on 03/28/2011 7:16:30 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: JesseWatters

[[and that U.S. action is limited to defending people under attack there by Moammar Gadhafi’s forces.]]

CORRECTION: “and that U.S. action is limited to defending Al Queda and the muslim brotherhood under attack there by Moammar Gadhafi’s forces.”

OBAMA: “Our military mission is narrowly focused on saving lives.”

TRANSLATION: our mission is to arm al Quaeda and the muslim brotherhood so they can take control of libya”

The students who were actively targetted by the iranian leaders apparently werren’t al quaeda enough for Obama, so they got absolutely ZERO help from oblah blah

OBAMA: TRying to divert people’s attention away from the FACT that obama wants to protect terrorists- “an important strategic interest in preventing Gadhafi from overrunning those who oppose him. A massacre would have driven thousands of additional refugees across Libya’s borders, putting enormous strains on the peaceful - yet fragile - transitions in Egypt and Tunisia.” “I am convinced that a failure to act in Libya would have carried a far greater price for America.”

TRANSLATION: In order to stop Ghadaffi from preventing the muslim brotherhood from taking over his coutnry, we, the US will fight alongside tghese terrorist ‘rebels’, while ignoring LIGITIMATE uprisings by more peaceful people across the globe

OBAMA: “And tonight, I can report that we have stopped Gadhafi’s deadly advance.”

TRANSLATION: Because I AM the second coming, Ghadaffi has lost his nation in record time- (even though it hasn’t), but because I say it has, it has!

OBAMA: “Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. The United States of America is different.

TRANSLATION: wHILE IT’;S alright for me, Mr. President of the united states, to ignore more peaceful natiosn attempting to oust their brutal dictators, it’s perfectly alright for me to pick and choose which terrorist factions I wish to give aid to. I’m not goign to sit idly by and watch these poor terrorists get into a war agaisnt htier leader that they know they can’t win, get slaughtered and fall by the wayside. Antybody who questions my descisions obviously doesn’t support ‘humanitarian projects’ asnd should be carefully scrutinized by the CIA/FBI-


18 posted on 03/28/2011 7:16:48 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: JesseWatters

Ubama lied.
Surprise, surprise.


19 posted on 03/28/2011 7:17:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: sickoflibs
off topic-my hsb insisted I take a look at uhbama...I haven't watched him on the tube since forever.

Hsb wanted me to check out his make-up. Said it was 'gaggable'.

I peeked, and decided that all that was missing was the coffin and the horizontal body position. I mean....he looked like a piece carved beige wax.

20 posted on 03/28/2011 7:18:11 PM PDT by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: JesseWatters

Wow, AP draws the line on their l0ve affair with 0. An undeclared unapproved war.


21 posted on 03/28/2011 7:18:15 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: JesseWatters
We all have to don our Zer0 BS Radiation Dosimeters to guard against over exposure:


22 posted on 03/28/2011 7:26:39 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: JesseWatters

I found his fake emotionalism thoroughly sickening and transparent as hell.


23 posted on 03/28/2011 7:34:36 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: JesseWatters

Holy crap! The comments on the WhiteHouse YouTube channel are EPIC!!!!11!1! Yeeeaow!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geqTT14AXwE&feature=related


24 posted on 03/28/2011 7:39:56 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: JesseWatters

ping


25 posted on 03/28/2011 7:41:47 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Here’s the one from tonight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVW6jBbD5Q8


26 posted on 03/28/2011 7:43:11 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: sickoflibs

John Bolton on Greta said it is like a person moving something from their right hand to their left.


27 posted on 03/28/2011 7:43:50 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

How do I remove stains from my conscience? The World
Soak it in cold water. Should come right out. td


28 posted on 03/28/2011 7:43:53 PM PDT by tumblindice (extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. let's dance.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
He is a destroyer of western civilization.

You´re right. Everything soetoro does facilitates the destruction of the United States..

29 posted on 03/28/2011 7:56:47 PM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: JesseWatters

If you have read about the planned Palestinian uprising in Israel, you can see where this is going. When Israel starts bombing the sh@t out of the Palestinians, guess who will be considered worthy of “humanitarian aid”, and a a “no fly zone” by Obama and the UN?


30 posted on 03/28/2011 7:59:19 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: sickoflibs

I did ;-)


31 posted on 03/28/2011 7:59:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: BigSkyFreeper

“his “war” or whatever the hell Obama wants to call it “

Its not a war. Its a kinetic military action. Constitution says nothing about kinetic military actions, see?


32 posted on 03/28/2011 8:01:24 PM PDT by garjog
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To: CottShop

“I am convinced that a failure to act in Libya would have carried a far greater price for America.”

I’d like to know what exactly he meant by that. He’s always so vague.


33 posted on 03/28/2011 8:04:45 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: JesseWatters

Don’t let Billy Kristol see this.


34 posted on 03/28/2011 8:05:26 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: tobyhill
Would you like some Lies with that?
35 posted on 03/28/2011 8:05:45 PM PDT by garjog
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To: garjog

I don’t buy that “KMA” foolishness unlike some here do. Like I said, whatever the hell he wants to call it, it’s unconstitutional. It’s past time to kid around. There are lives at stake. Obama’s reckless Libyan policy could get more Americans captured or killed.


36 posted on 03/28/2011 8:14:02 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

“Obama’s reckless Libyan policy could get more Americans captured or killed.”

Hear, hear. Why did we blow $600 million last week helping the Muslim brotherhood take over Libya?


37 posted on 03/28/2011 8:16:20 PM PDT by garjog
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To: JesseWatters
Despite insistences that the operation is only to protect civilians, the airstrikes now are undeniably helping the rebels to advance.

One of the first air mission of the war was a nifty peace of close air support by the French.

38 posted on 03/28/2011 8:18:20 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (The heresy of heresies was common sense - Orwell)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
That is unconstitutional is a given. So is any number of things the sob has done.

The question is, who will stop him and up to this point in time the answer is no one. And as much as it hurts to say it, I don't see that changing.

I have heard the standard, "We got guns". "Wait until 2012". The 2010 elections have come and gone and other that some talking, nothing has been accomplished. The Establishment Republicans are fighting the Tea Party Republicans tooth and toenail. The Tea Party Rpublicans are trying , but, they are having to fight a stacked deck of other Republicans, Democrats, and the main stream media.

Again, who is going to stop the sob the next time he does something that is unconstitutional?

39 posted on 03/28/2011 8:34:22 PM PDT by sport
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To: JesseWatters

bump


40 posted on 03/28/2011 8:36:39 PM PDT by angelsonmyside
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To: JesseWatters

Wouldn’t it be funny if Russia and China sent divisions to protect Qaddifi? Stranger things have happened.


41 posted on 03/28/2011 8:39:50 PM PDT by Pit1 (Remember Ft Hood, even though obeeeee thinks it never happened. God bless our brave warriors.)
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To: sport

By his standard, if we’re there on a humanitarian mission, why aren’t we bombing Japan and Haiti?


42 posted on 03/28/2011 8:40:42 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: JesseWatters

Obama lied, people died.


43 posted on 03/28/2011 8:48:17 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Carter 2.0 The Epic Fail Edition)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

No kidding, after reading those comments, I am starting to think that our dear leader’s work is almost done and he has outlived his usefulness. I am wondering who his replacement will be, I bet he will make dear leader look like mr. Rogers.


44 posted on 03/28/2011 9:20:09 PM PDT by infool7 (Ignorance isn't bliss it's slavery in denial)
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To: infool7

I am wondering who his replacement will be, I bet he will make dear leader look like mr. Rogers.
____________________________________________________________

The progressives won’t be happy until they have Pol Pot in office.

No........I’m NOT kidding.


45 posted on 03/28/2011 9:23:32 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

What the heck is a kinetic militatary action.? Has it anything to do with a potential military action? Do they have to spin a war at whatever level to something other than war?


46 posted on 03/28/2011 9:29:23 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

What the heck is a kinetic militatary action.? Has it anything to do with a potential military action? Do they have to spin a war at whatever level to something other than war?


47 posted on 03/28/2011 9:29:56 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: himno hero

IMO - what this is about is allowing the Muslim Brotherhood and other Radical Muslim elements walk into a regime that they can easily take over as they did in Egypt.

He is making it easier for them to unite under one banner from many nations. Country after Country is falling in the middle east, even the Saudis have now denounced what he is doing. They too are having a difficult time holding their populations in check. They just distributed billions to their people to calm them.

As they fall, they are being quickly taken over by the most radical forces in the middle east. The MB took over Egypt fast without firing a shot. They are ruling now and are locking people up for a year for being dissidents.

Now Al-Qaeda is on the Libyan battle field and ready to step into place. Why do you think he waited a week before doing anything? For a handful of countries to get together and demand help? No, he was giving them time to move into place. We provided them with air support.

the twofer with that was that BP almost lost it’s 900 Billion in wells there and god knows he wants BP in his pocket.

He is using our military to provide cover and deliver assets to the enemy of our country.


48 posted on 03/28/2011 9:36:32 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Just damn!

Now I know how they came up with that ridiculous term.

Kind of like the bird on the cheek thing...

49 posted on 03/28/2011 9:39:31 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: himno hero

Hey, in basic training, were various forms of PT, including running in circles while uniformed, “Military Kinetic Action?”


50 posted on 03/28/2011 9:45:01 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama channeling TR: "Speak incessantly and carry a little schtick.")
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