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Thrilled by the ‘Arab Spring’? You’re Delusional
Pajamas Media ^ | March 29, 2011 | Fred Grandy

Posted on 03/29/2011 1:36:19 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I'm flabbergasted to hear people I normally agree with be so optimistic about the current upheaval.

I am actually shouting at my television.

I am watching Fox News Sunday, and politicians and pundits with whom I normally agree — Newt Gingrich, John McCain, Joe Lieberman, and Bill Kristol — are all making me crazy with their advice on Libya. Each seems to believe that success in America’s latest foreign adventure is predicated on taking out Moammar Gaddafi, and they are all blaming President Obama and Secretary Robert Gates for failing to grasp the obvious.

So now I’m yelling: “Guys, the question is not what to do about Gaddafi — the question is what to do after he’s gone!”

Senator Lieberman seems to have this worked out. He echoes a sentiment I have heard regularly from lawmakers and journalists since January, when the “jasmine” revolution erupted in Tunisia. Once brutal dictators like Gaddafi, Mubarak, and now possibly even Bashar Assad in Syria are deposed, democracy will surely bud and bloom all over the Middle East. There is even a name for this awakening, “Arab Spring,” which I must admit has poetry to it. It would make a good show tune.

But as foreign policy, it is dangerously delusional.

Whether Gaddafi flees to Venezuela, barricades himself in his Tripoli fortress for a prolonged siege, or finishes toes up in a ditch, the vacuum he leaves behind in a country he has dominated for 40 years is what should concern policymakers. And the question they should be asking is this:

If freedom and democracy are waiting to sprout from Tunis to Manama, where are the seeds? Who exactly is doing the sowing?

Unlike that other fertile era when democracy flowered across central Europe before the Berlin Wall finally collapsed twenty years ago, there are no Lech Walesas or Vaclev Havels to lead the way to a totally new and unfamiliar system of self-governance. Instead, in Egypt — the country for which most analysts have the highest hopes — we are witnessing the triumphal return of Yusuf Qaradawi, probably the preeminent Islamic scholar in the world and the spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood. While he was living in exile in Oman, Qaradawi preached jihad regularly on Al Jazeera and encouraged the murder of civilians in Iraq. Now, when he prays in Tahrir Square, he can draw a million people.

The protesters who toppled Mubarak never exceeded a hundred thousand.

Meanwhile, we learn that one of the rebel leaders we are backing in Libya is Abdul-Hakim al-Hasadi, whose last tour of duty was fighting against U.S. troops in Afghanistan. His fighting force, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, is an ally of al-Qaeda and a fellow traveler with the Muslim Brotherhood. The Brotherhood and al-Qaeda have fallen out over tactics in the past, specifically over whether Bin Laden should have launched an attack on the West on 9/11 which killed Muslims. However, there is no disagreement over whether to kill infidels in Muslim lands: it is decreed in the Qu’ran.

Hasidi and his soldiers may be handy in a firefight right now, but what does the United States do if they want to hang around after the battle and help to write a new constitution?

Speaking of constitutions, there may be a small kernel of hope for some kind of pluralism to actually take root in Tunisia. There a new constitution is scheduled to be voted on in about four months, and one of the framers will probably be Sheikh Rashid Al-Ghannushi: he is the leader of Ennahda, the Tunisian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. Like Qaradawi, Ghannushi has lived in exile for 20 years only to return to a large popular following now that the Ben Ali government has been overthrown. However, unlike his fellow Muslim Brothers across the Arab world, Ghannushi fashions himself as a reform Islamist. He claims he is not intent on restoring the Caliphate, he professes support for women’s rights, and he does not take a hardline stance against the status of non-Muslim citizens in Islamic countries. Whether this is straight talk or taqqiya remains to be seen, but at present Ghannushi is certainly outside of the traditional doctrine preached and practiced by the Muslim Brotherhood. Because of this, Western diplomats should be wary of someone who appears to be passing himself off as the Scott Brown of Islam.

A gentle reminder to the believers in the “Arab Spring”: when Poland, Czechoslavakia, Hungary, and even Albania collapsed under the weight of communism, the United States rushed in with organizations such as the National Endowment for Democracy, the International Republican Institute, and the National Democratic Institute. We were usually able to fill the void left by the Soviets because all we were doing was replacing one discredited political system with one that had not yet been tried. In the Arab world we are up against shariah, a system of laws and proclamations that are decreed by God and not subject to the free will of man.

How does democracy take hold in a country where free will is considered apostasy punishable by death? We must not believe in that ourselves because U.S. advisors have helped draft constitutions in both Iraq and Afghanistan that have made shariah the supreme law. And in Egypt, whose constitution also elevates shariah above any manmade statute, the only obstacle standing in its way was the Mubarak regime.

The Muslim Brotherhood has renamed itself the Freedom and Justice Party in time for the upcoming elections. Should they prevail, does anyone believe they will abandon fourteen hundred years of Mohammed’s teachings for some wild ideas from James Madison?

So forgive me, esteemed elders of Fox News, if I do not wax euphoric over the prospect of an “Arab Spring.” I don’t smell the flowers and I don’t hear the robin’s song. The tune that keeps running through my head is Mel Brooks’ “Springtime for Hitler.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arabspring; constitutions; egypt; fredgrandy; grandy; islam; islamists; libya; muslimbrotherhood; muslims; sharia; shariah; talkradio; tunisia; wmal
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To: blueplum

This administration is totally erratic as most druggies are. It’s my position that Obama’s administration is as clueless as all get out.


21 posted on 03/29/2011 5:35:55 AM PDT by monocle
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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22 posted on 03/29/2011 5:37:25 AM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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To: XenaLee
he’ll be gunning (literally) for America from here to eternity. Just what America needs...another radical Muzzy that hates us.

Oh right, Gadhafi is going to REALLY hate the U.S. now. Don't forget, America bombed him at his home back in the days of Reagan.

23 posted on 03/29/2011 6:49:35 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I saw last nite on Beck’s show a slick commercial done by the Iranians about the imminent return of the 12th Imam.

This is not good.


24 posted on 03/29/2011 6:52:12 AM PDT by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

25 posted on 03/29/2011 6:57:50 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: Wuli
“If freedom and democracy are waiting to sprout from Tunis to Manama, where are the seeds? Who exactly is doing the sowing?”

The top question of 2011!!

i think the answer to this is obvious. Since satan worship is central to their culture, who else would be sowing these seeds?

26 posted on 03/29/2011 8:17:49 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: BobP
I was a junior college professor and I don't believe it!

Has anyone seen General “You break it, you own it” Powell?

27 posted on 03/29/2011 8:33:25 AM PDT by Makana
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To: JoeProBono
Totus lokks constipated in that pic, needs Churchill bac. He's says all wars are herebly not wars but they are marxist collective kinetic insurgensies that MAY HAVE STARTED A MASSIVE SLAUGHTER, which is whyI intervened in this civil war between the Hutis vs the Tutsis,I mean Seccesionists in the South and the Yanks, I mean ummmm N vs S vietnam which I stopped after I was conceived in the Selma march,I mean uh Israel and their apartheid nation vs scArabs, I mean uh umm Libya which as you look on the map is East of Egypt or Eden hell I don't know of thereabouts loaded with Al Qaeda and once we KILL all Kadaffi's people I will uh will establist Al Qaeda for the benefit of taking out Israel by May 15. Has everyone read and signed the Face Book page? If not learn to sprechen arabic like I was taught* weeeps* such a beautiful language."

Obama steps in pig BIG pile.

He just made himself a muslim!

Obama wants to speak to the terrorists

28 posted on 03/29/2011 8:33:49 AM PDT by Karliner (Now this is not the end. .... But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning, Churchill 1942)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Totally agree. this “revolution” will lead to a re-established Islamic Caliphate not a democratic Middle East.


29 posted on 03/29/2011 8:39:07 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: blueplum

Ignorant question on my part but what type was his father?


30 posted on 03/29/2011 8:41:30 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: blueplum
is it just me, or is our admn supporting shiite over sunni -In the countries this admn is encouraging regime change in there is a sunni ruling class with shiites revolting. In the countries this admn says they will not interfer in (iran/syria/etc) there is already a shiite ruling class.

The ruling class in Syria is not Shiite, it is technically the same Ba'ath 'party' as Saddam Hussein's Ba'ath party in Iraq, although they aren't Sunni either, where SH's Ba'ath party was. Religiously the Syrian ruling class is Alawite...

the infowarrior

31 posted on 03/29/2011 8:54:21 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
" passing himself off as the Scott Brown of Islam"

LOL

32 posted on 03/29/2011 8:58:36 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (I fight gangs for local charities and stuff.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Very good points by Mr. Grandy. I can’t even watch FNC at this point, they are all breathlessly telling us how great it is that the rebels are advancing. I hear no discussion about the fact the all of these revolutions are quickly laying the ground for the caliphate. It is utterly disgusting.


33 posted on 03/29/2011 9:05:34 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: x_plus_one
...at least go by a western name.

That reminded me of how clueless I was during the 2008 election. I actually thought that there was NO WAY that America would ever elect a president with that name so soon after 9/11 and with all that was happening around the world and in our own country.

34 posted on 03/29/2011 9:10:36 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: Uncle Ike
Mr. Grandy omitted the most damning evidence: when the Soviet Hegemony collapsed, the sections with strong Muslim tradition - Chechnya, the ‘Stans’, Serbia-Croatia, and so forth - are almost universally ‘failed states’, or teetering on the edge....

Exactly...great observation and so very true. Islam always ruins countries and the people in them...they know only war IMO and will continue to maintain that stance and keep their people ignorant and submissive.

35 posted on 03/29/2011 9:21:06 AM PDT by caww
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To: JoeProBono

Joe...you forgot the headpiece for his head! Noted the desk photo though.


36 posted on 03/29/2011 9:24:29 AM PDT by caww
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To: sauropod
They are also mass producing a new video ushering in the Mahdi, to all the ME now, including their military. Dangerous stuff happening now as the ME leadership push their agenda on the world...they see all the turmoil as evidence of the Hadith writings that say ME turmoil must proceed his coming. By mass producing this video it will reach all Muslims and embolden them.
37 posted on 03/29/2011 9:31:18 AM PDT by caww
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To: x_plus_one
...the cloistered average democrat middle class voter are as dumb as a box of rocks

I'm a geologist, and have met many rocks in my time, most of them American.

I think you owe them an apology for even comparing them to Democrat voters.

Rocks exhibited great solidarity in that not one rock voted for Obama...and I have never known the propaganda of the MSM to convince a rock to change its position.

38 posted on 03/29/2011 9:41:15 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks, my FRiend! I’ll pass it along to fellow 630 WMAL’ers...


39 posted on 03/29/2011 10:01:50 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD
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To: kburi; sofaman; BufordP; SE Mom; armymarinemom; HokieMom; MarineMom613; Tennessee Nana; ...

Article/Column by Fred Grandy.


40 posted on 03/29/2011 10:02:46 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD
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