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Posted on 03/29/2011 8:58:03 AM PDT by julieee
Company Uses Fetal Cells From Abortions for Artificial Flavors
Washington, DC -- A pro-life group that monitors the use of cells from babies victimized by abortions is today bashing the biotech company Senomyx, which it says produces artificial flavor enhancers using aborted fetal cell lines to test their products.
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The headline is somewhat misleading, and revolting.
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Coke - the new solent green.
The headline is not just misleading, it is a lie. Which makes getting behind a boycott like this somewhat difficult.
That being said, there is no way I would support use of any aborted tissue to be used for anything. You’re going down a slippery slope fast, to the point of when do women get pregnant just to “sell” their fetus to companies like this?
It is truly sick.
I'm not a scientist, but how are kidney cells also taste receptors?
Darn. I’m already “boycotting” those products — we never use them anyway.
Well Peta will not complain
Seems to me the headline could have just mentioned that the company is using cells from aborted human fetuses, period, and been more accurate and just as disgusting.
What a gracious thing to do. :)
Whoever writes these headlines speaks fluent moron.
The headline makes it sound like cannibalizm when in reality it is using fetal cells as lab rats.
Thoughtful, too. :)
HEK 293 isn't really a kidney cell; it's a neuron with neuronal ancestory. It's probably used to for it's sodium channels to discover salt substiutes.
Is it from the kidneys? How does that work?
MIsleading how? The cells are from murdered babies and being used to enhance flavors.
Origins of HEK 293 Cells
HEK 293 cells were generated in early 70s by transformation of cultures of normal human embryonic kidney cells with sheared adenovirus 5 DNA in Alex Van der Eb's laboratory in Leiden, Holland . The human embryonic kidney cells were obtained from a healthy aborted fetus and originally cultured by Van der Eb himself, and the transformation by adenovirus was performed by Frank Graham who published his findings in the late 1970s after he left Leiden for McMaster University in Canada. They are called HEK for human embryonic kidney, while the number 293 comes from Graham's habit of numbering his experiments; the original HEK 293 cell clone was simply the product of his 293rd experiment.
Subsequent analysis has shown that the transformation was brought about by an insert consisting of ~4.5 kilobases from the left arm of the viral genome, which became incorporated into human chromosome 19. For many years it was assumed that HEK 293 cells were generated by transformation of either a fibroblastic, endothelial or epithelial cell all of which are abundant in kidney. However the fact that the cells originated from cultured kidney cells does not say much about the exact cellular origin of the HEK 293, as embryonic kidney cultures may contain small numbers of almost all cell types of the body. In fact Graham and coworkers more recently provided evidence that HEK 293 cells and several other human cell lines generated by adenovirus transformation of human embryonic kidney cells have many properties of immature neurons, suggesting that the adenovirus was taken up and transformed a neuronal lineage cell in the original kidney culture. As a consequence, HEK 293 cells may need to be re-characterized and should not be used as an in vitro model for kidney cell function or studies involving kidney cells. Uses of HEK 293 Cells
As an experimentally transformed cell line, HEK 293 cells are not a particularly good model for normal cells, cancer cells, or any other kind of cell that is a fundamental object of research. However, they are extremely easy to work with, being straightforward to culture and to transfect, and so can be used in experiments in which the behavior of the cell itself is not of interest. Typically, these experiments involve transfecting in a gene (or combination of genes) of interest, and then analyzing the expressed protein; essentially, the cell is used simply as a test tube with a membrane. The widespread use of this cell line is due to its extreme transfectability by the various techniques, including calcium phosphate method, achieving efficiencies approaching 100%.
An important variant of this cell line is the 293T cell line that contains, in addition, the SV40 Large T-antigen, that allows for episomal replication of transfected plasmids containing the SV40 origin of replication. This allows for amplification of transfected plasmids and extended temporal expression of the desired gene products. Note that any similarly modified cell line can be used for this sort of work; HeLa, COS and Chinese Hamster Ovary cell are common alternatives.
I don't understand all of the above, but perhaps others will.
Have they been able to create a system that determines the magnitude of how a chemical quantitatively affects one cell vs. another? Are they using this information to build a flavorant that balances salt, sweet, sour etc?
Are they trying to develop a system to measure taste without having to use humans and the inherent problems that occur with taste panels? If so, this is pretty stupid method for achieving that end. How did they get kidney cells to evolve into taste bud cells? If that's what they wanted to do, why didn't they just harvest taste bud cells from cadavers rather than using cells from aborted babies?
I must be missing something because one of the solutions offered was to use animals or insects. Well, you can't get human taste receptors from animals and insects don't have them in the first place. Lots of question, little information. The threatened boycott seems to have gotten the attention of Campbell's so there must be more here than this poorly written (and ridiculously titled) offers.
The company doing this research is called Senomyx.
Senomyx is doing this as a replacement for MSG, salt, sugar etc.... so it can be used in food and beverage products.
Their collaborators are PEPSICO, KRAFT, CAMPBELL SOUP, SOLAE and NESTLE. These collaborator companies are paying Senomyx in their quest to replace aforementioned sugar, salt and MSG developing savory, sweet and salt like flavors from this harvesting of babies' liver cells.
Senomyx claims it has created a proprietary taste receptor-based "assay system that provides a biochemical or electronic readout when a flavor ingredient interacts with isolated human taste receptors."
Debi Vinnedge, the woman behind this expose, is head of a pro-life organization that monitors the use of cells from victimized babies.
She has written to the companies paying for the research and production of flavor enhancers Senomyx is focused upon (and who also stand to gain from selling of these flavor enhancers) and has received, after repeated attempts, some responses.
The response from Nestle went as follows.
" Nestlé, finally admitted its relationship with Senomyx and company officials claimed the line of cells from abortions was well established in scientific research.
FOR USE IN OUR FOODS and DRINKS?
OH MY GOSH!
I guess these cells from aborted babies, in this case KIDNEY CELLS used in the production of flavor receptors, ARE GOING INTO OUR FOODS and BEVERAGES.
I AM FURIOUS!
HELLO SOYLENT GREEN!
And BTW-pepsico, Kraft, Campbell soups and I don't even know what the company SOLAE makes....are off my purchasing list. Geeeeeeez.
A kidney contains many kinds of cells: connective, blood vessel, nerve... This is also an embryonic mix. The cell they grabbed to work with was an immature nerve.
I don't believe that's what's happening, but perhaps spunkets can help us out here.
If I understand correctly, the cells are used in research to develop more effective enhancers, which is still terribly wrong.
I thought it was Pepsi that was listed in the article.
“Ooh! Baby! My favorite flavor.”
No, it sounds like they are using the fetal cells to do testing on flavors. Like testing the effectiveness of medicines on lab rats, we don't get lab rat in our meds.
No Coke - Pepsi.
What is the going rate for these little murdered babies? Is it a bulk offer or are they priced individually. Or are they simply given to anyone who wants to help them throw out their death bundles?
So the electrical response of a cell tells them if it is a good flavor? So a baby’s liver cell can taste and this can be electronically broken down into flavors?
I understand that. You don’t have to yell at me.
"If I understand correctly, the cells are used in research to develop more effective enhancers,
The cells are used as the sensor elements of a machine that responds to a substance's flavor properties. The cells are in no way used for flavoring. They're exclusively used as sensor elements in lab equipment.
Do you understand that the cells are not actually in the food or drink?
Should I ask the mod to take my incorrect post off?
I interpreted it wrongly, after going to several websites. My duh.
Trisham-I was not yelling at you. I apologize for my handi'cap'. I have had a caps problems for as long as I have been on FR. My bad. It was emphasis, not yelling.
I still do NOT LIKE using babies dead little bodies to further such research. It makes me sick.
Please note post #36. Thanks.
Thanks, Republic. :)
How can kidney cells sense salt, sweet, sour and bitter? How do they do this without first evolving into taste bud cells?
These cells are neurons and all that's needed is the appropriate receptor functionality. They're only interested in salty, sweet and umami. Umami is the fifth taste sensation and is the taste of glutamate. This neuron has glutamate receptors and sodium channels. The sodium channels respond to salt. I'm not sure about the sweetness receptors, but it wouldn't be much of a chore to provide that functionality from what's already present.
... Once the receptors are triggered by the right substance, the cell membrane will be depolarized. That depolarization will be detected by electrodes and be processed and recorded in the electronics.
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1. Creating HESC lines is evil because one human embryo is killed to create the line and the embryo is treated like a commodity.
2. Once the HESC line is created, it is multiplied in the lab infinitely and no one else is killed.
3. He who uses cells from a HESC line does not kill anyone. The evil is that he uses cells that originated in an evil act.
4. These HESC users don’t kill any embryos.
5. We need to name the evil and be honest about it. Creating an HESC line is evil because the creator must either kill an embryo or treat a dead embryo as a commodity. But using the replicated cells is not murder.
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