Skip to comments.Past ties between Gadhafi, Farrakhan, Obama, U.S. Muslim groups raising questions
Posted on 03/29/2011 2:44:41 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
WASHINGTON As President Barack Obama sought Monday to explain to the nation the U.S. military action in Libya which he authorized, past associations between Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi and U.S. Muslim organizations, some of which have been linked to Obama, are attracting attention.
Thus far mainstream political and media figures are not making an issue of those associations, but longtime observers of the Washington political scene are taking note. In 2009, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) asked the Libyan ruler for what was estimated to be tens of millions of dollars to distribute one million copies of the Koran to Americans, particularly government officials.
"We hope for your noble generosity in taking this project under your wing, so you will be in the vanguard, as we have come to expect of you," CAIR executive director Nihad Awad told Gadhafi in a meeting in New York. "God willing, you will as you have promised us, be the first to take the lead in this project."
The meeting was said to have been one of several between leading American Muslims and Gadhafi. They included leaders of the Nation of Islam, with which Barack Obama was associated in the 1990s, specifically in assisting with the organization of the 1995 Million Man March.
The head of the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan, has attacked Obama for U.S. participation in the NATO assault on Libya.
On March 21, Awad acknowledged that CAIR solicited Gadhafi. But the American Muslim director said the Libyan ruler did not respond.
"We never received a penny from his group, from his government," Awad said.
Awad as well as two colleagues, CAIR chairman Larry Shaw and spokesman Ibrahim Hooper, met Gadhafi during his visit to the United Nations in September 2009. The three Americans called Gadhafi "the world Islamic popular leader" and then asked for Libyan funds to launch the Muslim Peace Foundation. One goal of the foundation was to distribute one million Korans throughout the United States in an effort to bolster the image of Islam.
Until 2007, Americans were prohibited from receiving money from Libya, which was on the State Department's list of terrorist sponsors. CAIR also sent a delegation to Saudi Arabia to solicit $50 million for the group.
"We want to assure you that Muslims in America are your brothers and supporters," Shaw, a southern state representative, was quoted as telling Gadhafi. "They share with you your interests and aspirations."
A minister and attorney has asserted that Farrakhan was a major influence on both Obama and the black community. E. W. Jackson, bishop of the Exodus Faith Ministries, cited Obama's role as organizer and "enthusiastic supporter" of the Nation of Islam leader during the so-called "Million Man March" in Washington in 1995.
"Obama clearly has Muslim sensibilities," Jackson, who does not claim a personal friendship with Obama, said. "He sees the world and Israel from a Muslim perspective. His construct of 'The Muslim World' is unique in modern diplomacy. It is said that only The Muslim Brotherhood and other radical elements of the religion use that concept. It is a call to unify Muslims around the world."
In 2004, Abdul Rahman Al Amoudi, founder of several American Muslim groups, was sentenced to 23 years for receiving money from Gadhafi as part of a plot to kill Saudi King Abdullah. During the 1990s, Al Amoudi served as an Islamic adviser to then-President Bill Clinton.
Recall when GAZA was taken over by Hamas, and all the weapons that Fatah had were now in the hands of the "other side"? Well, it seems that same playbook is being for the better part being repeated here. We've been taken over, and those in power are using our resources for the other side. I don't expect any freedom-loving pali's to rie up to get back Gaza from Hamas (and Fatah). But sleeping Americans better wake up here.
Personally I’m all for bombing the holy hell out of Libya and I think we should bomb lots more muslim countries too.
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What about the Republicans? They are silent as well.
Because they're all bought and paid for...
Great posts. Thank you for this information.
The line that says that Obama was associated with the Nation of Islam in the 90’s is more than proof enough that he is a Muslim.
So WHY are we in Libya? For Obama to use the American military to put Al Qaeda in power in LIbya for a terrorist training nation to attack Europe with terrorists.
Those same terrorists will eventually travel to America to kill your family and friends. Explosions in shopping malls killing innocents in towns across America is Obama's dream about to come through.
Most Americans won't understand who Obama is and his purpose until they go to the funerals for their children who were killed in terrorists bombings in their schools.
[CAIR also sent a delegation to Saudi Arabia to solicit $50 million for the group.]
That buys a lot of fur coats and gold teeth.
The public needs to be made aware of news outlets that DO print the truth as it happens.
We must tell EVERYONE we know about freerepublic.com and Glenn Beck’s www.theblaze.com. And any other outlet we may know of.
I pound our city’s (Chicago) police department blogs with article links from Freerepublic and The Blaze. Pass the links on to anyone and everyone you know. WE MUST GET THE WORD OUT TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE MEDIA OUTLETS THAT PRINT THE TRUTH!
Any public figure with the stones to do so could destroy obama’s image with minimal effort.....
The Great Society and its results, combined with the “right to vote” has destroyed the USA. Any country that could elect this man is doomed.
Are you kidding me??? What’s the story, here??? Have you been asleep at the wheel like the majority of the American sheep have been and still are??? Fact: Obama is dirty from head to toe with his low life, Black racist, hate America ilk of would be America destroyers, Farrakhan, Wright, Allen, Powers, Clinton, Soros, Pelosi, Reid, Jarrett, etc., etc. Come on, hands off on Iran & Syria, Yemen, Jordan, Egypt, Sudan, but hands on Libya. Make it look like a wipeout of Qaddafi, but let Qaddafi survive and the others go untouched, leading to a massive Muslim, terrorist takeover, exactly what Muslim, non-American Obama lives for. Alas, the destruction of the USA is going according to plan and the American sheep, you Freepers included, continue to snooze at the steering wheel of the American ship of state. You should all be ashamed to call yourselves Americans. Shucks, a dummy like me had this wired ages ago. Obama is not for America, he never was, and never will be!!! End of Story!!! He needs to resign as POTUS or be impeached.
I want to live long enough to learn that NObama was born in Kenya and that he is in fact a Muslim.
I will then have been vindicated.
We were right then and it's right to help kill the communist muslim terrorist Kadhafi now.
Without our billions of dollars of military aid for the mujahideen, the Soviets would have crushed the Afghan rebels, meaning no mujahideen victory and no Taliban (whose luminaries, including Mullah Omar and Jalaluddin Haqqani, were drawn from various mujahideen factions). Would we be better off today if we had stood by and let the Soviets wipe out the Islamists in Afghanistan*, thereby turning Afghanistan into yet another Islam-suppressing Central Asian republic? I happen to think so. We might even be better off if we had let the Soviets overrun Pakistan jointly with India.
The Soviet Union collapsed because it spent between 15 to 17 per cent of national output on defense, not because the Soviets got tired of fighting in Afghanistan and left. Having them ensnared in a poor and populous country like Pakistan would have made their problems worse. It was bad enough having to subsidize Cuba's 10m people, but to subsidize 85m Pakistani religious nuts would have been catastrophic.
* Note that Afghanistan has been a wasteland since antiquity, which is why the Macedonians and Mongols wiped out the defenders who barred their route of march, but did not stick around, choosing to move on to the richer lands of Hindustan (now India and Pakistan). While it was satisfying to have a proxy army inflict tens of thousands of casualties on the Soviets - especially after they did the same to us in Korea and Vietnam - in retrospect, it was a mistake to invigorate Islamists worldwide with a Afghan victory that they then appropriated to claim that Muslims caused the fall of the Soviet Union. Hindsight is 20-20, and Reagan can't really be blamed for aiding devout Muslims he may have regarded (and are in fact) as cousins, given the fact that Islam is basically a Christian heresy.
However, a post-mortem does provide practical lessons for the future. Why aid Islamists who will soon be on the march, as their native lands and economic ideology (socialism) prove unequal to the challenge of feeding them? Why provide close air support to the kind of people who provided material support and manpower to al Qaeda and cheered when the World Trade Towers came down? Pakistan's population in 1980 was 85m. Today, it is 170m. Egypt's population was 16m in 1939. It is 80m today. Each of these societies is growing more Islamist every day, and we want to enable these populations by having them put Hamas clones in power? No, thanks.
The truth is that no one knows what would have happened if the USA had failed to confront Soviet expansionism in South Asia, just like nobody really knows what will happen if the Kadhafi regime falls. Most likely the conflict will only intensify along tribal lines.
The Soviet Union only went broke fighting the Cold War because the United States of America confronted it in Afghanistan and elsewhere. The USA lost over a hundred thousand men fighting proxy wars against the EVIL EMPIRE in the Twentieth Century. Ronald Reagan made Afghanistan into the Soviet Union's Viet Nam. Their failure did not just cost them billions, it also demoralized them. They lost the will to fight.
You suggest that a Soviet victory may have even hastened their collapse. If you are correct then you must also acknowledge that a Soviet victory would not necessarily have prevented the rise of the Taliban in the nineties. For all we know we could have ended up with an even bigger Taliban controlling not only Afghanistan but Pakistan's nukes as well.
US intervention against the Soviets in Afghanistan did NOT lead to the 9-11 attacks on the USA. Osama bin Laden attacked the USA because we sent troops to Arabia to attack Iraq in 1991, and instead of finishing off the enemy, we left him in power to plan and plot his revenge against us, and we left our troops in Arabia to be "the world's policeman."
Allowing Kadhafi to remain in power now would be just as big a mistake as letting Saddam Hussein stay in power after Desert Storm. It would just be plain stupid. We would just have to clean this mess up sooner or later like we had to in Iraq.
If the rebels hate us then we will just kill them too once they are no longer useful to us, just like we are killing them in Afghanistan and Pakistan today. We already have the CIA on the ground to make sure our own agents and assets will be the ones who take over Libya while determining which "rebels" need a bullet in the head. Our intelligence forces must be allowed to infiltrate and subvert such movements in order to make them serve our own purposes. We shall divide, conquer, and divide again.
Thanks to Ronald Reagan, and GOD, there is no longer any Soviet Union around to save Kadhafi from us. We are now knocking off the Kremlin's islamofascist proxies one by one as we take the initiative and advance into our enemy's former sphere of influence. Not even Obama can stop us. As any fool can plainly see, he is clearly not in charge here.
I totally agree with you.
And THAT is why they are so aggressively opposing us.
“In 2009, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) asked the Libyan ruler for what was estimated to be tens of millions of dollars to distribute one million copies of the Koran to Americans, particularly government officials. “
Just a SMALL sample of the way that these oilmonye rich filthy pigs use their wealth to buy and influence American politicians.
Given that the Taliban does not exist in any of the Muslim former Soviet Republics, it's clear that the Russians are very efficient and zealous at liquidating Islamists. If they had conquered Pakistan, I expect that they would have zeroed out the population of mullahs in traditional Soviet fashion. No mullahs, no Taliban. Besides, a Russian invasion of Pakistan would have involved bombing Pakistan to the stone age. Pakistan would have become what Afghanistan is today, but with tens of millions of dead Pakistanis, and a country pocked with millions of unmapped land mines and booby traps. How is that a bad thing?
The point I was making about a Soviet invasion turning Pakistan into an Afghan-like moonscape is that there would have been no Pakistani nuclear program, any more than Afghanistan was capable of ginning one up. Note that India would have ended occupying large chunks of Pakistan, with perhaps some Chinese movement into Pakistani territory claimed by China. Bottom line is that between large-scale suppressive measures from all three sides, Pakistan would have ceased to exist on the Islamist map of assets, to non-Muslim world’s long-term benefit. And none of this would have cost the US taxpayer one thin dime.