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Why libs are lovin' the birthers: Is The Donald a secret agent for the Dems? (Clarence spins it)
The Chicago Tribune ^ | March 30, 2011 | Clarence Page

Posted on 03/29/2011 7:05:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Donald Trump has joined the "birthers," the odd movement that questions President Barack Obama's Hawaii birth certificate. That's a good way for the celebrity billionaire to appear as though he's making a serious run for the Republican presidential nomination, which he says he is considering. It also makes him sound like a secret agent for the Democrats.

That oddly credible possibility has been raised by frustrated conservatives like radio talk-show host John Gibson, who sounded furious earlier this week at the way birthers make Republicans look like the crazy party.

That unfortunate image only hurts the party's chances with the sensible independent swing voters it needs to win general elections. Now Trump is bringing even more attention to the birthers. Surely, Gibson speculated, tongue only partly in cheek, Trump sounds like some sort of RINO, a Republican-in-name-only who's secretly trying to help Obama.

Robert Schlesinger, opinion editor at U.S. News and World Report, similarly asked in a blog whether Trump is "really an Obama sleeper agent."

Indeed, if Obama is not directly supporting Trump, he has good reason to root secretly for the birther movement, whose backing Trump seeks....

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; democrats; donaldtrump; naturalborncitizen; obama; pawlenty; secretagent; trump
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To: Cold Heart

The great thing about that is that the black voters would stay away in droves. Can you say “President” Palin?


21 posted on 03/29/2011 7:24:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: fhayek

The funniest line I ever heard was when I was a Sheriff Explorer and Officer I was riding with pulled over some guy and asked for his registration and I.D.

They guy says “Do you know who I am?”

And the officer replies “Well, you appear to be an amnesia victim. If you’ll hand me your I.D. we can all be certain who you really are”.

I tried so hard not to laugh and when we got back in the car to run his license and registration I broke out laughing.


22 posted on 03/29/2011 7:25:13 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: SteveAustin

Here’s his official long form BC:

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/TrumpCertificate.pdf


23 posted on 03/29/2011 7:26:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Have to disagree. Charles Rangel, re-elected. Marion Barry, re-elected. The guy from New Orleans with 100K USD in his freezer, re-elected.

And the cornerstone of racial preference: OJ walks.


24 posted on 03/29/2011 7:28:54 PM PDT by Avery Iota Kracker (He hate me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why libs are lovin' the birthers

LMAO

Liberals are just waking up to this.

25 posted on 03/29/2011 7:28:54 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: crz

“A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.”

I bet you do not have a source for that “fact.”


26 posted on 03/29/2011 7:28:54 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Cold Heart

Good luck. She was part of his admin and is just as guilty as he is. Guilt by association.


27 posted on 03/29/2011 7:32:24 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: trumandogz

Posted on 31...


28 posted on 03/29/2011 7:33:30 PM PDT by crz
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To: Avery Iota Kracker

Those were black politicians. If Hillary eased Barry out of the way, don’t you think many blacks would be furious?


29 posted on 03/29/2011 7:33:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: trumandogz

Trumandogz came back out from under his rock I see. have you seen james777 lately? he seems to have vanished.


30 posted on 03/29/2011 7:36:24 PM PDT by Lachisula
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To: Vendome

You know what I love best about all of these guys? They will extrapolate any theory about anybody except for one. Why doesn’t Obama just show his birth certificate. They just can’t seem to get their head around that one.


31 posted on 03/29/2011 7:38:22 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: crz

Again, horsesh*t! There was no such travel ban. I’ve posted the evidence of that numerous times here at FR. Please look it up. Stop perpetuating this rumor.

It was very easy for Americans to travel to Pakistan in 1981. Pakistan was issuing 30-day visas at the airports upon arrival.


32 posted on 03/29/2011 7:41:11 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The more this Pres__ent screws up the more people are going to hate him and birther suspicion will only reinforce their distrust. It will be the vitriolic attack on birthers that will backfire on the Bolshies, since, the One is already seen as a liability by people who haven’t drunk the cool-aid.


33 posted on 03/29/2011 7:43:04 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (Hope and change is share the poverty.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

No they got their game down.

I am sick at home today so I start flipping between the news channels. I land on MSNBC and what a bunch of loons. They actually think they are funny and possess a superior intellect.

They are midway carnies who hit the jackpot and have to act as immature as possible to hold their ridiculously unsupportable positions.

They support their guy no matter what and use whatever obtuse construct they can to maintain whatever facade they are pushing today.


34 posted on 03/29/2011 7:44:17 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Odd movement???????

I find it odd that not a single prominent republican (including McCain) cannot fart without being challenged on eligibility issues, and yet 50 states have allowed an illegal alien sympathetic to terrorists on the democrat national ballot for president.

I find it odd that our top republican representative in the House is willing to take Obama’s word for it, after delivering that “HELL NO YOU CAN’T” speech to congress on Obamacare.

Every promise and principle Obama articulated during the election has been broken and violated, EXCEPT FOR HIS PLEDGE TO HOMOSEXUALS!!!

Obama Ignores judicial court orders, and then has the audacity to declare existing law unconstitutional as justification for not enforcing it!

EVERYONE IN THE MEDIA KNOWS this man is holding the office illegitimately, but when someone stands up and asks for verification of a sworn statement of status.... they are referred to as “ODD”????

Stop taking this crap America. We are NOT ODD for expecting our representatives to do their job... Which they clearly have FAILED TO DO!

Damn straight Obama is a bold faced liar! and every single representative and public official that allowed this to happen needs to be held accountable!

So what if we have a constitutional crisis? Who cares if the president gets “Embarrassed”?
The constitution is either enforceable, or IT IS NOT!
We need to FACE that crisis, or we will be choosing to face the END OF AMERICA by default... because our constitution won’t be worth SPIT!

And until someone PROVES he is legitimate, then we are by no means odd... his failure to prove and more importantly his REFUSAL to prove IS VINDICATION OF OUR CLAIMS!

The real movement here that is truly odd is the socialist one... and America apparently doesn’t even see it coming.

Hell... it’s here! but we are odd... go figure.


35 posted on 03/29/2011 7:50:54 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: crz

Well stated, thanks.


36 posted on 03/29/2011 7:51:11 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think the best evidence suggests that Obama was born in Hawaii. What he was up to before and during his College years is a much more interesting topic to me. But it doesn't seem self evident at all that attention to the topic helps Obama heading into 2012.

Like of the advice liberals give Republicans and conservatives, you have to consider the motives of the adviser.

37 posted on 03/29/2011 7:51:27 PM PDT by Minn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the idiot RINOs read 1/8th the research Freepers have done over the past two and one half years, they’d be “birthers”, too.

They are all complicit...and the “talking heads”, as well.

I’m gonna be fresh outta forgiveness when the SHTF.


38 posted on 03/29/2011 7:52:35 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Minn

If he were shown to be born in the Lincoln bedroom on the 4th of July, the fact remains that his father was not, and never became a US citizen. He is therefore not a natural born citizen.


39 posted on 03/29/2011 7:55:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Donald Trump

born June 14, 1946 in Queens, New York, NY (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Frederick Christ Trump, born October 11, 1905 in Queens, NY, died June 1999 in Queens, NY
Mary Ann MacLeod, born May 10, 1912 in SCOTLAND, died August 7, 2000 in Queens, NY. Arrived in US October 5, 1935. Married January 1936. Naturalized as a US Citizen March 10, 1942.

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Donald Trump is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN unlike Comrade Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.

40 posted on 03/29/2011 7:58:01 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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