Posted on 03/29/2011 8:57:23 PM PDT by Christus_Rex
Yes, tax the Super Rich. Tax them now. Before the other 99% rise up, trigger a new American Revolution, a meltdown and the Great Depression 2.
We know the Super Rich don’t care. Not about you. Nor the American public. They can’t see. Can’t hear. Stay trapped in their Forbes-400 bubble. An echo chamber that isolates them. They see the public as faceless workers, customers, taxpayers. See GOP power on the ascent. Reaganomics is back. Unions on the run. Clueless masses are easily manipulated.
Even Obama is secretly working with the GOP, will never touch his Super Rich donors. Yes, the Super-Rich Delusion is that powerful, infecting all America.
Here’s how one savvy insider who knows described this Super-Rich Delusion: “The top 1% live privileged lives, aren’t worried about much. Families vacation at the best resorts. Their big concerns are finding the best Pilates teacher, best masseuse, best surgeons, best private schools. They aren’t concerned with the underlying deterioration of America or the world, except in the abstract, because they aren’t directly affected by it. That’s not to say they aren’t sympathetic, aware, or don’t talk about the issues you bring up. They are largely concerned with protecting and enhancing their socio-economic positions, ensuring their families live well. And nothing you write about will change things.”
(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...
I vote for the revolution. It’s time to cull the herd anyway, and get rid of the freeloading class that we taxpayers have been supporting for decades.
Somalia is missing a pirate, apparently.
End the Dole! End all government subsidy. Let the rich keep what is theirs. Everyone else is entitled only to what they can earn and keep in the society they choose after balanced taxation. Income should be tax free so that each man keeps what he earns. (Off soapbox)
Biggest Pile of Marxist CLAPTRAP I’ve EVER READ.
I, personally, would rather see money in the hands of the ‘super rich’ than in the hands of a politician. Politicians squander wealth.
>> I strongly agree that the super rich need to pay more of their share.
Really? To pay who’s bills?
Let me tell you the beginning of a story, and see if you can guess how it ends:
“First, they came for the Billionaires. I didn’t have a billion dollars, so I didn’t speak up for them.”
It doesn’t have a happy ending.
Sounds like a DUmmie post
“I vote for the revolution. It’s time to cull the herd anyway, and get rid of the freeloading class that we taxpayers have been supporting for decades.”
I’m not far from you. For the people who work for companies we bailed out, like Goldman Sachs, GM, AIG, Fannie, etc., I think that we should simply take everything that everyone makes over $250k per year. If they cannot live on that, then they can go to another company that hasn’t added to the debt that my kids (and future grand kids) will be stuck with.
And once we do that, we need to dig into their assets. I would say that $2 million should be enough for them to live comfortably through retirement (although maybe I could be pushed up a million more).
And I feel the same way about welfare...if you take government money, then you SURE AS HELL should be poor - which means no plasmas, no Nike’s, no I-Pads, etc. If you really need the government to extort other people’s money, then PROVE IT and LIVE IT.
The rich won’t make even a decent appetizer. We’ll be at each other’s throats in no time. That’s what always happens when society aims to for the quick fix.
/aint rich
//am familiar with history and human nature
IBTZ?
What is their appropiate share? The top 1% pay 38% of the income taxes in this country. Almost 50% of Americans pay no income tax. What is a fair share for all Americans?
How much should they pay?
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Sales Tax
School Tax
Liquor Tax
Luxury Tax
Excise Taxes
Property Tax
Cigarette Tax
Medicare Tax
Inventory Tax
Real Estate Tax
Well Permit Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Inheritance Tax
Road Usage Tax
CDL license Tax
Dog License Tax
State Income Tax
Food License Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Gross Receipts Tax
Social Security Tax
Service Charge Tax
Fishing License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Building Permit Tax
IRS Interest Charges
Hunting License Tax
Marriage License Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Personal Property Tax
Accounts Receivable Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Workers Compensation Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
Utility Taxes Vehicle License Registration Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
FAIR SHARE?????????
Advocates of Obamacare argued the 14th Amendment - equal protection.
QUESTION: why does it apply to health care, and not to taxes? Hmmmm?
It’s always easy to spend someone else’s money.
Thanks for the communist manifesto.
It’s our greedy governmet which is destroying the economy
with unsustainable debt.
Why are you fomenting class warfare? The super rich pay more in taxes than most people will earn in a lifetime.
The economic benefit from those wealthy create capital.
You could plunder the wealth of this earth and never pay down our $60Trillion in unfunded liabilities.
Then what will become of the wealthy? They will cease to exist.
I’m with you.
Can we start with George Soros? Please?
Oh ONLY if the federal government had a little more tax money, THEN it would exercise fiscal responsibility.... (sarcasm off)
The dumbest article I have ever read. You could give our federal government 100 Trillion and they would still manage to spend more than they have. Don’t you get it!??? It does not matter how much money you give them, they still spend it all every time.
So to give them more money is NOT the answer!
Confiscating ALL ASSETS of the Fortune 500 Corporations would run the US Government for about probably less than a WEEK!
I am reporting all socialists to mods.
It is a Dummie post.
You’ve been watching too much TV.
The wealthy and super wealthy can only go so far with not paying taxes unless they broke the law.
Some are international and that is a different issue, if America wants to sue everything and have a bad business climate, then why should anyone come here?
How about we get rid of all the write offs for EVERYONE. Make one tax bracket and just have EVERYONE pay?
I agree.
This buys into the left world-view. Don’t tax them. Stop subsidizing them and make them compete like everyone else. To do that, you must remove the power from the government to give them other people’s money and to prevent others from competing againstthem. A large portion of the super rich are there because they figured out how to employ the guns of the state to favor their acquisition of money, to give them money or to protect them from competition.
If you take their money and give it to the state, their money will be used to direct more money and power as the state desires—achieving the opposite of the desired effect. It may change who is super rich and who is super powerful. But it will not change the fact of their existence because of an overweeningly powerful state.
I say we tax lottery winners 99.99999% of their earnings. They didn’t work hard for that money, so why should they have it? If you win $200 million on a $2 ticket, you should just get the $2 back. It’s only “fair”.
Let’s find a smarter way to do business in this global environment and create jobs here in the US - that is one of the real problems. Going after the “rich” here in this country is just political football - it’s not really going to change the dynamics, but it certainly sounds good - especially considering that more potential voters are “have nots” than “haves”.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2382706,00.asp
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/25/60minutes/main20046867.shtml
Google Paul B. Farrell to see the rantings of a nut case. To think a Freeper agrees!
Here is the same article on DU. The y LOE his ideas like you:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x595132
Do away with the income tax...go back to tariffs or go to a FairTax type of system
The Free Trade Communist Globalists hate tariffs and FairTax....but those taxes are not punitive as the Income Tax. Any type of Income Tax...even a flat tax, is punitive because it punishes those who make money.
It is not “Super Rich” that need to be taxed....the taxes need to be placed on those who do not invest in America. Income Taxes reward shipping wealth from the US...tariffs and FairTax encourage investment in America...because it taxes goods...not wealth
You can see why Karl Marx loed Income Taxes and Free Trade: They are destructive to any nations economy and wealth
Typical reactionary response. Try thinking for yourself and not what the GOP spoon feeds you! That’s what a true conservative does.
Let’s start with the fat ones first: Micheal Moore, Orpah, actually they might just cover the next 2 years budget deficit themselves.
I vote for a revolution too! However, not the one you’re advocating. I believe the revolution that is needed is one which gets the heavy hand of government off of all of our necks. The super rich hide much of their money because of what the government has created in this country with thousands upon thousands of government pages of regulations and laws which only serve to give the politicians power over the governed - that is not the intent of our founding fathers.
“I’m not far from you. For the people who work for companies we bailed out, like Goldman Sachs, GM, AIG, Fannie, etc., I think that we should simply take everything that everyone makes over $250k per year. If they cannot live on that, then they can go to another company that hasn’t added to the debt that my kids (and future grand kids) will be stuck with.”
This is a “deal with the devil” solution. The problem is, the devil is a powerful government that has the monopoly on the use of force. You will never get the government to punish those it has elevated, unless to protect itself. Those folks are rich because they were part of a group picked to be rich by the same people you would be relying on to punish them.
Pretending to do that has been the progressive meat and potatos for over a century.
I agree 100%, we need to tax the super rich, we should start with George Soros and tax him 100%!
When the lefties sugar daddy gets de-funded maybe the wind will be taken from their sails.
B/S.
The problem is not that people are taxed too little, the problem is that government spends too much. ~~Ronald Reagan
1. I want America to have the richest individuals and companies.
2. Why would I want to take wealth out of the private economy and give it to government?
The instigation of class warfare is one of the most odious tools of the left.
I think we should raise taxes on rich politicians first, so that they may lead by example. Liberal, rich, big mouths like Warren Buffet who thinks his taxes should be higher should get an extra bonus tax hike.
Spread the wealth around, eh?
Iowahawk punctured this “superrich” mentality in one of his hilarious blog posts:
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/03/feed-your-family-on-10-billion-a-day.html
To all the Freepers accusing me of socialism and wanting to steal from the rich to give to the poor you are in serious need of better reading comprehension and critical thinking!
I outlined corrupt/illegal actions that the super rich *routinely* use to escape paying the tax rate. That is what I meant by “fair share”, whatever the tax rate is! I am in favor of a flat tax.
Some of you are so clueless as to what is happening it’s shocking. The global cabal of bankers and super rich who are setting up the New World Order.
This knee jerk defense so many GOPers give when you dare to mention shenanigans the super rich are doing is pathetic.
Guess who engineered the financial and housing markets collapse and then made TRILLIONS afterward, it was the super rich! This fawning over them just because they have made it to the top of the money pile is unpatriotic and is frankly quite immature. The super rich have declared war on everyone including the rich, middle class and anyone else who doesn’t follow their plans.
How do you think the moron Obama was selected and funded? Evil super rich scum like George Soros and the selfish bastards on Wall Street and at the Fed who don’t care if they trash the US economy, tank the US dollar, and drive up inflation because AS LONG AS THEY MAKE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS, BILLIONS OR TRILLIONS THEY DON’T GIVE A F**K ABOUT AMERICA! They are in some ways even more dangerous than parts of the Left because they have the money and thus the power to do what they want, unless/until enough of us wake up and oppose them.
Try doing some more thoughtful analysis before any of you dare accuse me of being a socialist or wanting to steal money from the rich!
No, I just have a big problem with people that get rich off of welfare...regardless of the type of welfare it is.
If they earn the money without using the government to take it from taxpayers, I’m cool with that.
#8. Thou shalt not steal!
I wish we could stick Soros in Gitmo! I was reading that for most of US history the rich had a 90% income tax rate! LOL
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