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MA Man Loses Gun License/Faces Charges After Being ROBBED
fleming-hayes.com ^ | 3/31/11 | Fleming and Hayes

Posted on 03/31/2011 9:45:01 AM PDT by Nachum

Only in the state of Massachusetts could “blaming the victim” be extended to burglaries. Once again, the gun-grabbing fear mongers in charge of our state are looking to set a precedent that will no doubt have national implications.

If this case goes to trial and Stanley Sokolowski is convicted, there will now be case law on the books that other judges can cite: The common act of reloading your own ammunition and the possession of the needed (and Constitutionally protected) supplies will be akin to domestic terrorism.

The following email was sent to us by our good friend, and former candidate for Massachusetts State Auditor, Kamal Jain.

In January, a home in Lowell belonging to Stanley Sokolowski was broken into, his home firearms storage vault broken into, and all his stored firearms and other items stolen. After the crime was reported, the Lowell Police Department filed charges against the victim!

A couple of days ago I had breakfast with Stan, to discuss his situation.

Let me cut to the chase: I am working to setup a legal defense fund for Stan. We need to help him. Please stay tuned and/or contact me at kamal@kamaljain.com if you can help.

I’ve spoken with Jim Wallace at GOAL. GOAL is going to provide some attorney references. Stan got some names of attorneys already; he will speak with all of them. This is going to cost a fair amount of money to fight.

The Lowell Police are not being forthcoming with information about how many guns have been recovered, though Stan’s assistance led to the arrest of the thief. In fact, the Lowell Police Department revoked Stan’s license to carry,

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; loses; ma; man; massachusetts; reloading; rkba

1 posted on 03/31/2011 9:45:07 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
The burglar should write a letter to the Lowell Police, claiming to have also raped crime victim Stanley Sokolowski. I imagine that such a letter would result in Stanley Sokolowski being stoned to death.

Once you start punishing crime victims for being crime victims, it's a quick trip to hell.

2 posted on 03/31/2011 9:51:31 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Nachum

Mass — the home of gay chickens.

What is Stan accused of doing wrong?


3 posted on 03/31/2011 9:51:31 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What is Stan accused of doing wrong?

Looks like they're still working on how to best screw him out of his constitutional rights.

4 posted on 03/31/2011 9:53:12 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: paulcissa

As best as I can see, having “too much” reloading material, though there is no ordinance spelling out what too much would be. This needs to be squashed as unconstitutionally vague if not plain unconstitutional.


5 posted on 03/31/2011 9:55:46 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Nachum

what was he charged with and why did they take his permit? Link doesn’t work


6 posted on 03/31/2011 9:55:58 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Nachum
After the crime was reported, the Lowell Police Department filed charges against the victim!

But the law enforcement koolaid drinkers here a FR attack me every time I claim the police are NOT on the side of individual rights, so this must be a misprint.

7 posted on 03/31/2011 9:57:57 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Nachum

We are becoming Britain.


8 posted on 03/31/2011 9:59:36 AM PDT by Sloth (If a tax cut constitutes "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should count as a "desposit.")
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To: Nachum

Come and get ´em, coppers.


9 posted on 03/31/2011 9:59:46 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: Nachum

I thank God I don’t live in a state like MA.


10 posted on 03/31/2011 10:00:41 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: Nachum

Stan should file suit against the Lowell PD that his Constitutional/Civil Rights are being violated.


11 posted on 03/31/2011 10:00:45 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Can one have too many pens?

No you say?

Well then, the same applies to reloading equipment.


12 posted on 03/31/2011 10:01:09 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Obama has fired more cruise missiles than any other Nobel peace prize winner.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Some technicality about the quantity being a fire hazard, I think. And that should be a low level fire code violation at worst, requiring nothing more than a “fix it” (such as a better containment system) to address. These Massholes look like blooming idiots.


13 posted on 03/31/2011 10:08:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Nachum

How can ANYONE live there? Geez.


14 posted on 03/31/2011 10:08:27 AM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: from occupied ga
But the law enforcement koolaid drinkers here a FR attack me every time I claim the police are NOT on the side of individual rights, so this must be a misprint.

Do the police write the laws?

15 posted on 03/31/2011 10:15:41 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Nachum
manufacturing and trafficking explosives??


16 posted on 03/31/2011 10:19:33 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: DTogo

I think the time is getting close for everyone in these states who believes in the 2nd amendment to take a stand as they did in 1775 when the red coats came to get their arms.


17 posted on 03/31/2011 10:21:19 AM PDT by Mouton (Government expands to fill any voids in freedom.)
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To: ataDude
How can ANYONE live there? Geez.

Because the people who live there WANT to feel the jackboot on their necks - forever. It makes them feel safe. What's more they want YOU to be ruled by a tyranny too they fear freedom. It makes them feel safe if you and I are in chains too. And to think Sam Adams came from MA

Quite some time ago I was in Lexington for patriots day. there was a vendor selling little die cast (or maybe plastic - I don't remember) toy muskets. Some kid (6,7,8 not sure) wanted to buy one. Not only did his mother jump all over him, but lit into the vendor for selling guns. Something to the effect of how dare he endanger children, there ought to be a law against it, etc. Typical masshole. I try not to think uncharitable thoughts, but that time I was kind of hoping that some guy would break into her gun free house and rape her.

18 posted on 03/31/2011 10:22:16 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Nachum

His vault was broken into???? Somethings fishy....


19 posted on 03/31/2011 10:22:43 AM PDT by Little Pharma
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To: SunTzuWu
Do the police write the laws?

I wondered how long it wold be before one of the aforementioned koolaid drinkers would chime in. Ever heard of the Nuremburg trials?

20 posted on 03/31/2011 10:25:07 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: SunTzuWu

nope. but they interpret them how ever they want, and charge you with half a dozen crimes, most of which only vaguely resemble whatever you did, and some of which are assumed.


21 posted on 03/31/2011 10:25:31 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Mouton
everyone in these states who believes in the 2nd amendment

all 2000 of them.

22 posted on 03/31/2011 10:26:48 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: SunTzuWu

“Do the police write the laws?”

Perhaps you can cite the law they are enforcing?


23 posted on 03/31/2011 10:32:33 AM PDT by Crim
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To: SunTzuWu

What law are they enforcing?

Please be specific.


24 posted on 03/31/2011 11:05:17 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Obama has fired more cruise missiles than any other Nobel peace prize winner.)
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To: ScottinVA
I thank God I don’t live in a state like MA.

Thank Satan. That's his turf.

25 posted on 03/31/2011 11:10:18 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Jared Lee Loughner - Disciple of Michael Moore)
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To: Red in Blue PA
What law are they enforcing?

Obviously the law against citizens having the right to keep and bear arms. They're MA police after all.

26 posted on 03/31/2011 11:26:07 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: from occupied ga; Crim; absolootezer0; Red in Blue PA
No need to call me names GA, I asked a question that you haven't answered.

Crim, and Red in Blue... I can't cite the law because I don't live in Ma. and I don't know their laws and there is always more to a story than the press gives you.

absolootezer0... bringing charges is the job of the DA not the police. The DA is an elected official. Don't like the way he runs things, vote him out. The appeals court comes in here as well.

Everyone... I don't like the sound of this any more than you do but a knee jerk reaction of hatred against the police is unworthy of you.

27 posted on 03/31/2011 11:26:23 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: SunTzuWu

Knee jerk?

The police are sh%#ing on the 2A and you say we are having knee jerk reactions?


28 posted on 03/31/2011 11:28:33 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Obama has fired more cruise missiles than any other Nobel peace prize winner.)
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To: SunTzuWu
I asked a question that you haven't answered.

Your question is a non sequitor. Why should I answer it. And FYI The Nuremburg trials established the fact the "just carrying out orders." does not give people moral exemption from what they do even ignoring the wide lattitude that the police have in creatively applying charges

29 posted on 03/31/2011 11:40:26 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Knee jerk?

Yes, knee jerk. Look at any article on FR concerning the police and within 10 posts you will see reactions like the ones here. The police have no power that isn't given them by the people. Don't like things? Then change them! The reactions here are more like an Anarchists than folks who respect the rule of law.

BTW, look at my posting history. I'm no defender of excessive police action. Too many folks here post without thinking first.

30 posted on 03/31/2011 11:41:33 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Nachum

I wonder if it will ever dawn on these dweebs that gunpowder in a propellant not an explosive?


31 posted on 03/31/2011 11:45:24 AM PDT by Idaho_Independent (The 3 boxes of freedom, Soap Box, Ballet Box, and the Ammo Box.)
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To: Nachum
The common act of reloading your own ammunition and the possession of the needed (and Constitutionally protected) supplies will be akin to domestic terrorism.

Over my dead corpse...

32 posted on 03/31/2011 11:55:40 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: SunTzuWu

i’m referring most specifically to a cop that catches them in the commission of a crime.

but in coming after someone after the fact, the way i’ve seen it happen is the cop still gets to pick and choose what all he arrests the guy for, and later the prosecuting attorney choses which charges he actually pursues.


33 posted on 03/31/2011 12:04:36 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Idaho_Independent

“I wonder if it will ever dawn on these dweebs that gunpowder in a propellant not an explosive?”

NO. The fact that in the plastic bottle it does not explode but simply burns will be denied by the DA.

Dummies.


34 posted on 03/31/2011 12:45:59 PM PDT by texmexis best
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To: SunTzuWu

FReepers are tired of cops who abuse citizens. Ignorance of the law is not a defense for civilians but it is for cops.

This guy is going to have a monstrous legal bill because a cop and a DA doesn’t know squat about primers, powder or cartridges.

I called my local fire dept five years ago or so and asked the asst. Chief if there was any restrictions on the amount of primers, powder or cartridges I would be permitted to store in my home. His response, “Why do you ask? Should there be?”


35 posted on 03/31/2011 1:04:56 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are .)
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To: Nachum
Sound to me like this guy somehow got on th ewrong side of someone in the PD. Perhaps the guy that broke into his house is related to someone on the force and reporting the crime brought too much heat down on him. (happens more that you could believe in MA)

An even worse scenario is this guy could have filed a complaint against one of their fellow officers — THAT really sets off the harassment machine.

I escaped MA last year and some of the things I found out about the small town I lived in could turn your hair white.

36 posted on 03/31/2011 1:19:38 PM PDT by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: B4Ranch

Had a fireman once tell me that all gun components should be fire code violations.


37 posted on 03/31/2011 1:38:33 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Cowman

>I escaped MA last year and some of the things I found out about the small town I lived in could turn your hair white.

I’d like to hear one such story.


38 posted on 03/31/2011 2:23:14 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: from occupied ga
I try not to think uncharitable thoughts, but that time I was kind of hoping that some guy would break into her gun free house and rape her.



I am a strong believer in the right to keep and bear arms, but I think in any situation like with this woman you could try a little harder.

39 posted on 03/31/2011 4:57:11 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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Self ping.

/johnny

40 posted on 03/31/2011 5:12:06 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: OneWingedShark
I’d like to hear one such story

OK A friend of mine became suspicious of her upstairs neighbor when he offered to sell her some pills. She reported this to the town cops and ten minutes later he showed up at her door with a 12 gage promising dire consequences if she were to speak with the constabulary again.

It doesn't take much imagination to figure out that someone with the police tipped him off and was probably protecting his operations.


Don't even get me started on the building and code enforcement dept.

41 posted on 03/31/2011 6:01:21 PM PDT by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: Cowman

>Don’t even get me started on the building and code enforcement dept.

I *HATE* “codes” enforcement.
When I returned home from being deployed to Iraq [via my National Guard unit] I got a job with a landscaper while I was waiting for the next semester. We were about this time of year, late March or early April, testing the watering system for out Church and so we had to turn the water on and observe things. Well there was some runoff into the streat and Codes came by and informed me that it was/is illegal to water during the daytime in the Summer.

Now Summer, as I recall, starts June 21st! ...so why, pray tell, did he feel the need to make any sort of issue?
I believe it is for one simple reason: Power.


42 posted on 03/31/2011 7:15:41 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark; Cowman

so would I.


43 posted on 04/01/2011 4:57:32 AM PDT by cycjec
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To: Cowman

thanks.


44 posted on 04/01/2011 4:59:05 AM PDT by cycjec
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To: deks

whatever


45 posted on 04/01/2011 5:01:36 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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