Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Highway deaths fall to lowest level since 1949
AP/WorldMag ^ | Apr 1, 12:38 AM EDT | KEN THOMAS

Posted on 03/31/2011 10:16:13 PM PDT by quantim

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Highway deaths have plummeted to their lowest levels in more than 60 years, helped by more people wearing seat belts, better safety equipment in cars and efforts to curb drunken driving.

The Transportation Department estimated Friday that 32,788 people were killed on U.S. roads in 2010, a decrease of about 3 percent from 2009.

(Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cars; dot; highwaydeaths
Of course AP article does not mention the price of gas in a relentless recession spurred by liberal policies.

And less driving.

1 posted on 03/31/2011 10:16:18 PM PDT by quantim
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: quantim

The left will say it is from an increase in the use of public transportation.


2 posted on 03/31/2011 10:19:05 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: quantim

...or that the roads are so bad they’re like traveling over miles and miles of speed bumps. One cannot GO over 40 mph on many of the roads in Michigan.


3 posted on 03/31/2011 10:20:08 PM PDT by madison10
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: quantim

This afternoon at an intersection close to home..an “organ donor” plastered a Mercedes with his bike and body.
The most interesting part was that the city of San Diego still has enough money to send in a special hazmat crew..complete with white suits to clean up the blood and brains. Plus a “Critical Incident Counselor” to ‘on the spot’ counsel bystanders who witnessed the mess. All these efforts and money must be leading to lower traffic deaths..but I suspect with gas prices going up more people will hit the road on their motor bikes and become roadkill.


4 posted on 03/31/2011 10:21:51 PM PDT by Oldexpat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: madison10

Wasn’t there a story ~a year ago where some MI roads were getting topped off with gravel instead of re-paved with asphalt to save money?


5 posted on 03/31/2011 10:25:14 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: quantim

“Of course AP article does not mention the price of gas in a relentless recession spurred by liberal policies.
And less driving.”

Right. And less jobs. Rush hour traffic in my area seems to have thinned out.


6 posted on 03/31/2011 10:27:10 PM PDT by drierice (Hope Has Changed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GOPsterinMA
Wasn’t there a story ~a year ago where some MI roads were getting topped off with gravel instead of re-paved with asphalt to save money?

Hmmm...didn't see the story, BUT there are roads here, not sure what they are called, not gravel, but not exactly paved. They are holding up VERY well. Some of our local roads should be redone to be like those.

Some of the other roads, at least in my county, are concrete and those are turning into rubble--dangerous rubble. The holes can swallow a whole car wheel. People are going to get hurt. (actually someone probably already died, but they repaired the road so fast there was no evidence)

7 posted on 03/31/2011 10:30:49 PM PDT by madison10
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: quantim

Regardless of the statistics, real or manipulated, the most important question is do we want the government to tell us how to take care of ourselves or do we want to decide for ourselves.

Seat belts? It is obvious that at times wearing them saves someone’s life. Yet, should that be a choice or a government mandate?

Air bags? A free choice of whether or not to buy them or a government mandate?

Car insurance? A free choice or a government mandate? There are two main arguments for a government mandate. 1) To protect yourself from the uninsured by mandating that ALL must be insured. The fallacy of that is that uninsured motorist insurance is always available. 2) All must be insured so that the costs are spread evenly. Let the market decide the price. If it is too high for your personal needs, then take the risk. If not, then pay.

The examples could go on forever. The choice is freedom or government control. Already they are telling us whether we can smoke, when and where we can exercise our 2nd amendment rights, what we can eat, and many other things. How much government control are we willing to accept?


8 posted on 03/31/2011 10:33:21 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: quantim

Oh, and the fact there are so many fewer people driving to jobs.


9 posted on 03/31/2011 10:33:28 PM PDT by madison10
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: quantim
Personally I'm tired of the "drunken driving" angle.

Drunkenness is surely the cause of some truly gruesome wrecks.

But for the most part those tested "drunk" in accidents are not the cause of said accident.

I'd much prefer a law against stupid and cell phones.

And for what it's worth, I know a bunch of cops...some who say "moderate" drunks are safer on the road than the average driver. They drive far more cautiously.

It's the chronic 0.25 - 0.3 drunk that's dangerous. The 5 drinks over two hours with dinner, full grown man at 0.15 is not a problem.

Until he gets busted.

10 posted on 03/31/2011 10:46:45 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: quantim
An average of 89 people per day, probably more so during rush hours and holidays, especially at intersections, but it is something to remember every time you get into your car.
11 posted on 03/31/2011 10:52:27 PM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mind-numbed Robot

As I think about these questions I think about kids.

Not sure what side I’m on.

Should the law require that we put minors in our car in car sets/seat belts?

It’s one thing to increase the odds that I’ll die; another to increase the odds my kid will.

I don’t support the mandate for competent adults, though.


12 posted on 03/31/2011 11:18:04 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Mariner
I'd much prefer a law against stupid and cell phones.

That's a two-fer. Cell phone users are stupid drivers.

13 posted on 03/31/2011 11:56:59 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Persevero

Saw a great billboard in Canada back in the 70’s.

“If you love your kids, Belt them.”

Get the meaning, but it’s still good.


14 posted on 04/01/2011 4:16:34 AM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: quantim

If we can get gas prices up to 8 or 9 bucks and the unemployment rate up to 35% I bet we can cut traffic fatalities to their lowest level since 1929 ...


15 posted on 04/01/2011 5:09:50 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GOPsterinMA

“Wasn’t there a story ~a year ago where some MI roads were getting topped off with gravel instead of re-paved with asphalt to save money?”

Yep, I clearly remember that story. It provided a very slight visual hint about our impeding crash to a Third World lifestyle...it was quite scary and true.


16 posted on 04/01/2011 5:11:40 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Mariner

“And for what it’s worth, I know a bunch of cops...some who say “moderate” drunks are safer on the road than the average driver. They drive far more cautiously”

Yeah right. I heard the same thing about stoners. Pass.


17 posted on 04/01/2011 5:20:53 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: BobL; madison10

@ BobL - Right, exactly!

@ madison10 - Concrete roads in the northern US? A real genius must designed that.


18 posted on 04/01/2011 5:42:03 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Mariner

“I’d much prefer a law against stupid...”

Example: the chick who’s got a butt in one hand and the mascara wand in the other - must be steering with her knees.

Example: the guy shaving and channel surfing the radio while he drives. Again, how are you steering?

Frightening.


19 posted on 04/01/2011 5:47:17 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: GOPsterinMA
"Concrete roads in the northern US? A real genius must designed that."

The roads have seams about every four feet, maybe less, so they aren't much different than long sidewalks.

20 posted on 04/01/2011 7:27:44 AM PDT by madison10
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: quantim

(sniff!), (sniff!)......hmmmmmm.....


21 posted on 04/01/2011 7:30:17 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: madison10

If you don’t like paying tolls and taxes for asphalting roads every few years concrete is the way to go. CT had some concrete highways put in during the Depression that were still holding up well in the ‘80s. Don’t know if they’re still there though.


22 posted on 04/01/2011 7:38:15 AM PDT by Justa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Persevero

You make an excellent point about the kids. Yet, it all boils down to whether or not you want the government to be the parent.


23 posted on 04/01/2011 8:11:57 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: madison10

Right, but you typically don’t drive on sidewalks. It doesn’t seem like a practical solution in a cold climate.

I sense a government worker/union mentality of “don’t kill the job” being in play.


24 posted on 04/01/2011 8:14:14 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: quantim

With the higher price of gas more people will start riding motorcycles.
I know I will, my new cruiser I bought several years ago has been mostly for recreational riding but with its 50 mpg capability I will be riding it more often.


25 posted on 04/01/2011 8:19:22 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("These people are either at your neck or at your knees" A quote by Winston Churchill)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mind-numbed Robot

“Yet, it all boils down to whether or not you want the government to be the parent.”

There is a continuum, there.

Do I want the government to tell me whether my kids can have mac and cheese, study Spanish instead of German, cut their hair or let it grow?

No.

Do I want the government to tell me I can’t abuse my kids, terrorize them, take them with me climbing Mt. Everest as infants, send them on solo sailing trips when they are ten?

Yes.

Because children are people, are citizens, and have a right to life; and because parents have the obligation to provide for and protect them to a certain degree;

the government has a role.

The debate is, how much of a role? I am a supporter of parental rights, but I do think the state has some responsibility to protect children from neglect and abuse.


26 posted on 04/01/2011 12:04:49 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Persevero

I agree about the child abuse thing but even that gets into grey areas of government abuse. I am not for anarchy but I think sometimes government assumes too much authority and we allow them to because it sounds like a good thing. As my tagline says, not everything that needs, or should be done, should be done by the government. Most of the time personal responsibility is the answer. Yet, let one person fail in that responsibility and the temptation is to bring Big Brother in to police everybody.


27 posted on 04/01/2011 2:41:04 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Mind-numbed Robot

I think we are in agreement on that. It is a tough judgement call. I think personal responsibility is paramount; however, minor children must be reasonably protected.


28 posted on 04/01/2011 5:25:01 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson