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Ratings Down for Fox, Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck (Maddow UP, CNN also UP)
Opposing Views.com ^ | 3/31/11 | Mark Berman

Posted on 04/01/2011 7:52:05 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Ratings for Fox News are in the doldrums, down 21% in primetime so far this year. But don't cry for the right-leaning network -- it's been number one on cable for nine years now, and it still has the top 12 shows.

According to a report from Business Insider, Bill O'Reilly remains in the top spot, but he lost 14% of his audience from the same three-month period last year. Sean Hannity places second, down 19%. Bret Baier (whoever he is) is third, beating out Glenn Beck, who has lost a whopping 30% of his audience. 

CNN and MSNBC have been the beneficiaries of Fox's decline. CNN is up by 28%, led by Anderson Cooper's 18% rise, and MSNBC saw a 9% ratings growth. Its star Rachel Maddow has 16% more viewers.

Business Insider speculates on the possible reason:

This time period last year was dominated by the health care debate and for much of that period Fox operated as an extension of the opposition. Now that the nation's focus is international it's harder to figure out an angle where Obama is bad and...nuclear meltdowns and Qadaffi are good.

Another explanation could be that CNN and MSNBC have been doing so poorly in recent years that there was no place else to go but up.

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FYI, the REAL kooks are going in the wrong direction.

I can only take so much GB, and BOR has never been a fave of mine, but their biases are small compared to CNN and Maddow.

1 posted on 04/01/2011 7:52:07 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

IMHO Fox needs to do a gut check.

It’s called “Fox News Channel”. Not Fox Personality Channel.

Fire the entire evening talking heads line-up, and present NEWS in the evenings.


2 posted on 04/01/2011 7:54:07 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin 2012 - America First)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Another explanation could be that CNN and MSNBC have been doing so poorly in recent years that there was no place else to go but up.

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3 posted on 04/01/2011 7:54:51 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The news is depressing. I go to FR where I can control my intake.


4 posted on 04/01/2011 7:55:08 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm madder than a Charlie Sheen hatter about ObamaCare.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Mythical stories. Last year was an election year, first of all. Secondly, Becks number’s in particular when through the roof during 2009 and 2010 because he was basically the only nationally visible investigative reporter doing any stories at all about the activities in the Executive Branch.

The numbers are down slightly, but still destroy the competition. The left is nitpicking certain parts of the ratings to create a story that simply is not there.


5 posted on 04/01/2011 7:56:28 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: SoFloFreeper
Sounds like Soros has started his war against Fox.
6 posted on 04/01/2011 7:57:10 AM PDT by mountainlion (America land of the free because of the Brave.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Not an election year, so people are more focused on entertainment..............


7 posted on 04/01/2011 7:59:42 AM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 1,698 threads and 63,835 replies, as of 03-29-2011......)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I just read where my former ‘RAT representative and Obama rubber stamp here in Arizona says she’s going to run to get her seat back in the House. She said the TEA Party, Independents, Republicans and Libertarians have all contacted her and told her that the Republican we elected “toes the party line too much”. LOL! I knew this was going to happen once they passed “medical” (ROTFL!) marijuana in this state.


8 posted on 04/01/2011 8:00:12 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (How's that Keynesian economics working out for ya so far?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“It’s called “Fox News Channel”. Not Fox Personality Channel.”

Fox has made a conscious decision to go the direction of news “food fights”. Volitile hosts, who tend to talk over guests. Fox is to news what Jerry Springer is to talk shows.

Glenn Beck has some good points, but oh my gosh, how much weeping gloom and doom can you take?

O’Reilly has no compass, he’s a self promoting, arrogant, whore.

Fox is in trouble. I barely watch anymore.


9 posted on 04/01/2011 8:00:17 AM PDT by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Maddow up

Sounds like she took viagra.

10 posted on 04/01/2011 8:01:02 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Just saying.......)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sounds more like a perfect April Fools’ joke to me.


11 posted on 04/01/2011 8:01:18 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (TX and MI - When the going gets tough, the dims run and hide.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

They need to get rid of the morning crew. They SUCK NOW! I turn on the TV for morning news and I get the Susan Lucci Kissing Brian Kilmeade Show....................


12 posted on 04/01/2011 8:01:37 AM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 1,698 threads and 63,835 replies, as of 03-29-2011......)
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To: brownsfan

I don’t watch any of them, I prefer BBC, Russia Today, France 24, and even Al-Jazeera. Take some of what they say with a grain of salt of course, but the quality of journalism there blows away the US networks.


13 posted on 04/01/2011 8:01:49 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Red Badger

“They need to get rid of the morning crew. “

Indeed. Fox’s morning crew makes Morning Joe look smart. And that’s quite a feat.


14 posted on 04/01/2011 8:03:34 AM PDT by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for March 29, 2011
P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
Total Day
FNC 1,180 322 582
CNN 520 198 268
MSNBC 438 139 220
CNBC 169 49 88
FBN 57 14 33
HLN 240 91 134

Primetime P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC 2,084 567 1,027
CNN 627 270 314
MSNBC 935 305 487
CNBC 213 84 118
FBN 64 22 40
HLN 414 119 202

Net Morning programs (6-9 AM) P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC FOX & Friends 1,062 361 658
CNN American Morning 430 172 298
MSNBC Morning Joe 517 156 229
CNBC Squawk Box 147 54 107
HLN Morning Express w/ Meade 314 186 232

Net 5PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC GLENN BECK 2,063 525 988
CNN SITUATION ROOM 726 209 327
MSNBC HARDBALL WITH C. MATTHEWS 503 124 213
CNBC FAST MONEY 181 45 104
HLN SHOWBIZ TONIGHT 216 55 67

Net 6PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC SPECIAL RPT W/BRET BAIER 2,145 507 914
CNN SITUATION ROOM 580 220 268
MSNBC MSNBC LIVE 439 94 204
CNBC MAD MONEY 160 51 112
HLN PRIME NEWS 180 48 90

Net 7PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC THE FOX REPORT W/S.SMITH 1,688 443 836
CNN JOHN KING USA 507 188 244
MSNBC HARDBALL WITH C. MATTHEWS 586 205 299
CNBC KUDLOW REPORT 174 65 93
HLN ISSUES 258 96 183

Net 8PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC THE OREILLY FACTOR 2,812 752 1,349
CNN IN THE ARENA 543 230 299
MSNBC LAST WORD W/ L. ODONNELL 905 291 448
CNBC 60 Minutes ON CNBC 148 55 85
HLN NANCY GRACE 434 184 212

Net 9PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC HANNITY 1,952 568 1,005
CNN Piers Morgan Tonight 557 209 234
MSNBC RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 1,072 328 537
CNBC DIVORCE WARS 228 99 124
HLN NANCY GRACE-MISSING 259 88 123

Net 10PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC ON THE RECORD W/GRETA 1,488 382 726
CNN ANDERSON COOPER 360 783 370 410
MSNBC ED SHOW 824 291 471
CNBC DIVORCE WARS 263 97 144
HLN JOY BEHAR 231 90 105

Net 11PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC THE OREILLY FACTOR 1,224 431 740
CNN ANDERSON COOPER 360 568 270 318
MSNBC MSNBC SPECIAL PROGRAMMING 456 188 281
CNBC MAD MONEY 88 40 56
HLN SHOWBIZ TONIGHT 204 97 133

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For other days cable news ratings click here.

P2+ = viewers over the age of 2

(25-54) = Adults 25-54 viewing

(35-64) = Adults 35-64 viewing

Prime Time = 8-11pm


15 posted on 04/01/2011 8:04:41 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: SoFloFreeper
"Another explanation could be that CNN and MSNBC have been doing so poorly in recent years that there was no place else to go but up."

Most likely the reason. Notice that we don't see the actual numbers? Just percentages of up and down. If you see the numbers, Fox is crushing the competition. When one (just one mind you) of CNN's or MSNBC's shows overtake one of Foxes shows, give me a call.
16 posted on 04/01/2011 8:04:41 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Arrowhead1952
Sounds more like a perfect April Fools’ joke to me.

I'm surprised it took THIS long to figure that out!!

17 posted on 04/01/2011 8:05:08 AM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: SoFloFreeper

What ever station is running NCIS has been the beneficiary of my leaving GB and BOR and Hanity. Just tired of all three. If FNC was running News Programs instead of these talking head self aggrandizing personalities I would watch. It is as if all news stops around the world for FNC at 6 pm eastern until 6 am eastern.


18 posted on 04/01/2011 8:05:11 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: brownsfan

They used to be good.
NOW they are just like the others. Fluff ‘n Stuff.............


19 posted on 04/01/2011 8:06:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 1,698 threads and 63,835 replies, as of 03-29-2011......)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

agreed... first we have the drama queen Glen Beck.. then Ted Baxter.. then Lou Costello.. who I can tolerate (Hannity).. I also like Greta...

but GB and Oreilly ... ughhh I can’t stand them... wish they would get the axe.. I really like the straight news and the panels like the old Brit Hume panel..


20 posted on 04/01/2011 8:06:23 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: SoFloFreeper

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/the-scoreboard-wednesday-march-30_b60282#more-60282

They might be down, but the viewership of most of the Fox shows (Beck, Baier, Shep, BOR) beats the viewership of all the other stations combined. (looks like Greta is the only one that doesn’t meet that observation)


21 posted on 04/01/2011 8:06:25 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: SoFloFreeper

Beck and O”Reilly make fun of birthers aka they are stooges for the Kenyan.


22 posted on 04/01/2011 8:08:02 AM PDT by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“When one (just one mind you) of CNN’s or MSNBC’s shows overtake one of Foxes shows, give me a call.”

Didn’t I just read where Anderson Cooper beat Greta?


23 posted on 04/01/2011 8:08:30 AM PDT by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

April fools and March, May, June etc
My phone message today informs my customers I can longer serve them because I have gone off to Libya to fight for this courageous president. Also letting them know I can’t wait to go on to Yemen and Syria.


24 posted on 04/01/2011 8:09:41 AM PDT by badpacifist (Conservative Nut Job? Yes I have nuts and a job.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I think its Fox’s coverage of the earthquake. Fox sucks when it comes to breaking world news disasters. Cnn does a better job. They get their fast and cover it longer unlike Fox who after Greta repeats O’Reilly and others.


25 posted on 04/01/2011 8:09:54 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Just saying.......)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I think its Fox’s coverage of the earthquake. Fox sucks when it comes to breaking world news disasters. Cnn does a better job. They get their fast and cover it longer unlike Fox who after Greta repeats O’Reilly and others.


26 posted on 04/01/2011 8:10:02 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Just saying.......)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Conservatives are finally smartening up, Fox is in the “bag” like the rest of the crappy cable “news”. People can just take so much of the phony “personalities” “pundits” and screaming nonsense. I gave it up 10 years ago and haven’t
watched since.


27 posted on 04/01/2011 8:10:38 AM PDT by VeeP22
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To: SoFloFreeper

The premise that those leaving FOX are going to CNN and MSNBC is too ludicrous to believe.

I am waiting to see if Comcast becomes Commiecast with its acquisition of NBC.


28 posted on 04/01/2011 8:10:45 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (Hope and change is share the poverty.)
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To: Nat Turner

I’ve been leary of all threads today. When I saw this one: Lazamataz Vows Celibacy http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2698078/posts - I knew to be careful.


29 posted on 04/01/2011 8:11:11 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (TX and MI - When the going gets tough, the dims run and hide.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Bingo. A lack of hard news coverage forces people to look elsewhere. Then there is Shep.


30 posted on 04/01/2011 8:11:22 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: SoFloFreeper

Beck doesn’t show in prime time here - he’s on at 4pm. I find it hard to believe GB has lost almost a third of his viewing audience.


31 posted on 04/01/2011 8:11:40 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA ("Elections have consequences...." Barry O. Thank you Scott Walker and WI Republicans!!)
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To: kcvl
FNC is still running circles around the competition.

If only they'd replace Newt, Tokyo Rove, Beckle, Juan Williams, Dana PerRINO and BOR, they'd pick up many of the "lost" viewers, IMO.

Or, they could just have Donald Trump on every niight...lol.

32 posted on 04/01/2011 8:12:29 AM PDT by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: ilgipper
The numbers are down slightly, but still destroy the competition. The left is nitpicking certain parts of the ratings to create a story that simply is not there.

True enough. Beck's numbers are down from an all lime high and up from an all time low but he still has 3 times the viewers of his closest competition in his timeslot. I expect those numbers to fall during the summer because summer afternoons aren't big TV viewing hours.

Yesterday Media (Mythical) matters wrote that Beck was lying about being syndicated on over 400 radio stations.The problem is that Mythical Matters only counted down from the stations that have dropped him and ignored the 88 stations that picked up his show which puts him at over 430 stations.

Bret Baier is a top notch straight news man and really should be looked at differently. Shep Smith on the other hand is pure propaganda.
33 posted on 04/01/2011 8:12:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SoFloFreeper

I preferred Fox when it was “We report - you decide.”

Now it’s “Fair and balanced.”

It seems to me that “Fair and Balanced” means that if they report something bad about Democraps, they have to follow with something bad about Republicans.


34 posted on 04/01/2011 8:13:25 AM PDT by eCSMaster (2012 - End of an error)
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To: SoFloFreeper

BOR insults Conservatives. No wonder.


35 posted on 04/01/2011 8:14:53 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: bmwcyle

Gretta has the best show on fox primetime..


36 posted on 04/01/2011 8:17:26 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: brownsfan
"Didn’t I just read where Anderson Cooper beat Greta?"

This was posted in post 15:

Net 10PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC ON THE RECORD W/GRETA 1,488 382 726
CNN ANDERSON COOPER 360 783 370 410

MSNBC ED SHOW 824 291 471
CNBC DIVORCE WARS 263 97 144
HLN JOY BEHAR 231 90 105


37 posted on 04/01/2011 8:21:54 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Hojczyk

I am finding myself liking the shows on Fox Business more than Fox news.


38 posted on 04/01/2011 8:22:35 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: SoFloFreeper; All

Problem with Fox News is that it has become more of MSNBC and CNN

Fox now attacks Obama Eligibility proofers....supports liberal Free Trade and Globalist policies....and has no real conservatives as special correspondents.

MS Fox News and CNN Fox News are more accurate descriptions.

And, Fox will go more left...as Al Gore’s buddy James Murdoch assumes more control of NewsCorp from his daddy


39 posted on 04/01/2011 8:23:53 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (No, supporting Communist China is not a "conservative idea".)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Well, of course ratings are down.

1) It’s not an election year, and

2) Most of the major news this year has been foreign (Middle East uprisings, crisis in Japan, etc.) FOX is terrible at foreign news. CNN beats them easily with more resources and better reporting when live coverage is required.


40 posted on 04/01/2011 8:23:53 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: SoFloFreeper

CNN is way up because it does a much better job covering events in Japan and Libya. Always has. We never watch CNN - unless there is a crisis news event. then we keep it there. Fox does a poor job. Especially Shepard Smith who can’t keep his faggot ass out of political quips.


41 posted on 04/01/2011 8:24:07 AM PDT by montag813
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To: brownsfan
Glenn Beck has some good points, but oh my gosh, how much weeping gloom and doom can you take?

Ditto. He does bring some important facts to light, but I just don't enjoy his "woe is us" rants through an entire hour. I'm aware of America's steep decline, so I don't need constant reminding of it.

42 posted on 04/01/2011 8:24:11 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Based on those number, FoxNews has little to worry about... they’re WAYYYYY out in front, still.


43 posted on 04/01/2011 8:27:32 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: eCSMaster
"....'fair and balanced' means if they report something bad about the Democraps, they have to follow with something bad about the Republicans."

You nailed it. Virtually nightly, the two most egregious hosts specializing in this deliberate and evil moral equivancy are the fascist/populist, Bill O'Reilly, and the Libertarian, Judge Napolitano.

Leni

44 posted on 04/01/2011 8:28:02 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Obama....you'll have to pry my incandescent lightbulbs from my cold, dead fingers!)
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To: Frantzie

Beck is a stooge for the Kenyan?

What ARE you smoking?


45 posted on 04/01/2011 8:28:17 AM PDT by Carley (UNION AGITATORS, NO DIFFERENT THAN THE ARAB STREET. UGLY AND VIOLENT)
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To: SoFloFreeper

During the 2010 election cycle, I tuned in Hannity. I hadn’t watched him or listened to his radio program for several years.

When I tuned in, I actually thought they were doing a replay of one of his segments from the 2008 election cycle. It wasn’t. It was him being current, and it was nothing more than a repetition of the same ole stuff he has been saying for years.

Those ‘news’ and ‘talk’ programs grow stale without an influx of new talent. Case-in-point is the Sunday morning news programs and the almost-obligatory appearances of McCain, Graham, and a few others.


46 posted on 04/01/2011 8:28:19 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Chuzzlewit
"I really like the straight news and the panels like the old Brit Hume panel.."

Brit Hume panel? You mean the Mort Kondrake and Charles Krauthammer Neocon show? Ya....that's good stuff if you enjoy watching the cowardly establishment Washington cocktail circuit elitists.

47 posted on 04/01/2011 8:28:50 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: SoFloFreeper

One, conservatives are increasingly moving to web-based news outlets. Two, the stars at Fox have had a long run, but eventually, everything gets old. Fox should like at giving a show to someone like Mark Steyn. I think it’s time to freshen up the lineup, and I agree with an earlier poster; time to put the focus back on news. Start another pundit channel if you will, but give us more news and less opinion.

Know what I miss? The old CNN. The pre-Bill Clinton era CNN that was strictly neutral, and doggedly worked to get stories first.


48 posted on 04/01/2011 8:29:24 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: ScottinVA

number=numbers


49 posted on 04/01/2011 8:29:29 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: ilgipper
The left is nitpicking certain parts of the ratings to create a story that simply is not there.

Correct-O. The order of the day is to destroy Fox by any means possible.

50 posted on 04/01/2011 8:29:38 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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