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Bush warns of fallout from early Afghanistan exit (RINO attacks U.S. "isolationism")
CNN - Political Ticker ^ | 2011-04-01

Posted on 04/01/2011 10:36:44 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

(CNN) – Former President George W. Bush is worried the U.S. might pull out of Afghanistan too early to the detriment of that country's women.

In an interview with Fox News that aired Thursday, Bush warned that Afghan women will "suffer" should the Obama administration decide to downscale troop levels there.

"My concern of course is that the United States gets weary of being in Afghanistan and says 'It's not worth it, let's leave' and Laura and I believe that if that were to happen, women would suffer again," he told Fox's Greta Van Susteren. "And we don't believe that's in the interest of the United States or the world to create a safe haven for terrorists and stand by and watch women's rights be abused."

"We liberated Afghanistan from the Taliban because of providing a save haven for al Qaeda," he continued. "But I believe then and believe now we have an obligation to help this young Democracy to survive and thrive."

Bush's comments came the same day he and former first lady Laura Bush kicked off a two-day conference at Southern Methodist University focusing on women's rights issues in Afghanistan – an issue Mrs. Bush also championed when she was in the White House.

"Isolationism will end up subjecting certain people to horrors that I don't see how our country can live with that kind of decision," the former president also said.

The Obama administration has said that it will gradually hand off responsibilities to Afghanistan security forces as it draws down U.S. troops between this summer and the end of 2014.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; biggovernment; bush; bushlegacy; failure; gwb; isolationism; neocon; obama; rino
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"...now we have an obligation to help this young Democracy to survive and thrive."

GWB, why don't you do us all a favor by sitting down and STFU? You wouldn't even lift a finger to defend your own countrymen from illegal aliens and narco-terrorists yet you jump to spend your countrymen's money to defend foreigners.

1 posted on 04/01/2011 10:36:50 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385
and Laura and I believe

And that was part of his problem. Reminds me of that idiot Carter going on air and revealing he had discussed national/international issues with Amy, his nine year old daughter.

Yeah, real confidence inspiring, the both of them.

2 posted on 04/01/2011 10:40:17 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: rabscuttle385

Get the hell out of there NOW!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 04/01/2011 10:40:53 AM PDT by unkus
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To: rabscuttle385

Bud why don’t you STFU and go FK yourself to ever speak that way towards one of the finest men and best damn CinC this great Country has seen in the past century. Full stop. As someone that served under him and who has been DR in Stan (several times) he is exactly right. Again, go FK yourself.


4 posted on 04/01/2011 10:40:59 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: SevenMinusOne

You need to calm down.


5 posted on 04/01/2011 10:44:22 AM PDT by unkus
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To: rabscuttle385

Yeah because bailing on Afghanistan the first time turned out so well. So which building should we offer up next time around?


6 posted on 04/01/2011 10:45:23 AM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: SevenMinusOne

I second that motion, FRiend. W was a fine CIC.


7 posted on 04/01/2011 10:46:17 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: SevenMinusOne

Thank you for your service.


8 posted on 04/01/2011 10:46:25 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (To paraphrase Sarah Palin: I love when the liberals get all wee wee'd up.)
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To: rabscuttle385
GWB Go away, you completely screwed this place up dropped the ball in the wars and crapped on the ones WHO trusted you,Take your bungling RINO Azz out of the news and stay out of sight.
9 posted on 04/01/2011 10:46:56 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: rabscuttle385

This is the headline at the link: Bush warns of fallout from early Afghanistan exit

It doesn’t include the editorial comment in YOUR headline and the body of the article makes no reference to RINO.

If YOU wish to editorialize, rabscuttle, then post a vanity.... or, post the article and add your OPINION in the comments.

Your attempts to steer the discussion are juvenile and insulting. Your libertarian agenda IS isolationist; this is known to everyone who reads this forum. But, apparently, you are unable to honestly articulate your beliefs.

You Paulitarians would have had us roll over and surrender to al qaeda after 9/11.


10 posted on 04/01/2011 10:48:59 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Former President George W. Bush is worried the U.S. might pull out of Afghanistan too early to the detriment of that country's women.

If W thinks we should stay until Afghan women will be granted individual rights and be treated decently, then maybe he should give us an estimate of how many centuries that would take. That culture will not significantly change how it treats women in the lifetime of anyone now living.

11 posted on 04/01/2011 10:49:04 AM PDT by Will88
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To: SevenMinusOne

AMEN, and thank you for your service and sacrifice.
Libertarian idiots like rabscuttle don’t understand that freedom is accompanied by responsibility.
They want the goodies without paying the price.


12 posted on 04/01/2011 10:51:12 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Maybe we should look into partitioning Afghanistan as a way to have some kind of stability there first - something like a Daristan and a Pashtunistan. The country was mostly a creation of the Russian Empire and the British Empire’s desire to not share a border; and the people who supported the Northern Alliance, Dari speaking in large part, were generally ethnically different from those who supported the Taliban, mostly Pashtun.

Plus, someone somewhere knows where Osama bin Laden is. What’s the video going to look like if we give up on that objective?


13 posted on 04/01/2011 10:52:31 AM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: rabscuttle385

You can say what you want about GWB domestic agenda...but after 3000 people died on Sep. 11, what was he supposed to do? He removed the Taliban.

In Iraq, he acknowledged strategical mistakes and accepted the advice of Patreus with the surge...turned the whole thing around.

I am surprised by the uncivil tone of some freepers here.

In addition to protecting the country after 911, GWB appointed Alito and Roberts to the Court — two conservative jurists who will no doubt have a say in Obamacare.

So go on. Use profanity. Call him what you will. But GWB has more class than most. And I appreciate what he did for our country.


14 posted on 04/01/2011 10:52:44 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: rabscuttle385

Early?

It’s coming up on ten damn years.


15 posted on 04/01/2011 10:53:56 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Hu's your daddy)
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To: La Enchiladita
Libertarian idiots like rabscuttle don’t understand that freedom is accompanied by responsibility.

You sound like a leftist talking about "giving back."

The Federal government--including the armed services--is solely responsible to the States and to the People, not to foreign interests and causes, no matter how noble they may be.

16 posted on 04/01/2011 10:54:40 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Tulane
He removed the Taliban.

And that's where it should have ended.

17 posted on 04/01/2011 10:55:42 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: La Enchiladita
If YOU wish to editorialize, rabscuttle, then post a vanity.... or, post the article and add your OPINION in the comments.

It is not uncommon to use put opinion into a header as along as it does not alter the actual title.

People bash Obama all the time in titles, don't take it personal, and FReepers do it all the time to set the tone.

18 posted on 04/01/2011 10:59:00 AM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: SevenMinusOne

Hear hear! Thanks!


19 posted on 04/01/2011 10:59:38 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: SevenMinusOne

Standing ovation! I may not have agreed with President Bush on everything, he is right on this one.


20 posted on 04/01/2011 11:01:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Palter
FReepers do it all the time to set the tone.

Set the tone? Really? IOW, manipulate the news the same as lamestream media does, so no thinking is required. Got it.

21 posted on 04/01/2011 11:01:44 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Just my two cents here, but I think that if GWB had continued to be CIC after 2008, we would have made much better progress in Afghanistan by now, and we wouldn’t have seen the body count rise like it has under Zero.

Zero, like all Democrat presidents, is afraid to actually unleash the full might and fury of the US military, and is getting our people killed by nipping around the edges, and tying their hands behind their back with his suicidal rules of engagement.

I’m of the opinion that if we’re going to send good Americans into harm’s way, we need to let them achieve victory through whatever means are available to them.


22 posted on 04/01/2011 11:02:21 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Will88

“Former President George W. Bush is worried the U.S. might pull out of Afghanistan too early to the detriment of that country’s women.”

I hate to clue Dubya and laura in but Hamid Karzai does not let his own wife out of the house. His brother runs the drug trade there. Its totally corrupt. Women in Afghanistan have pretty well been screwed since the beginning of time and nothing short of executing all the men in the country and importing some guys from another country is going to fix it. These people live in a time warp and they like it that way. They don’t want to give up the dancing boys and the burkhas. Not gonna happen. We can’t fix every country. We need to leave.


23 posted on 04/01/2011 11:03:41 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: rabscuttle385

You Paulitarians ARE leftists, with your anti-war, anti-military platform.

If you people don’t like a country with a strong military and strong presence in the world, then there are several others where you will feel much more comfortable.


24 posted on 04/01/2011 11:04:05 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: rabscuttle385
"But I believe then and believe now we have an obligation to help this young Democracy to survive and thrive."

Islam and Democracy are incompatible with each other. If this is why we are staying, it is time to go.
25 posted on 04/01/2011 11:04:12 AM PDT by microgood
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To: rabscuttle385

Scab Ruttle, that was ugly. Go away.


26 posted on 04/01/2011 11:04:17 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: rabscuttle385

For later.


27 posted on 04/01/2011 11:04:56 AM PDT by slotin flash
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To: Ramius

Ditto


28 posted on 04/01/2011 11:05:55 AM PDT by italianquaker (Maobama)
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To: LouAvul

Who is Bush to say that American boys have to die and be wounded for some alleged benefit for Afgan women? If Afgan women are so important, let NOW and Emily’s List handle it.


29 posted on 04/01/2011 11:06:28 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Windflier
Zero, like all Democrat presidents, is afraid to actually unleash the full might and fury of the US military

Nonsense. At least they dropped the bomb. Where was the full aresnal of the US in Nangarhar province?

Nothing, I've lost too many friends that had to clear buildings when we could have taken out the entire town.

30 posted on 04/01/2011 11:07:24 AM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: SevenMinusOne
Bud why don’t you STFU and go FK yourself to ever speak that way towards one of the finest men and best damn CinC this great Country has seen in the past century. Full stop. As someone that served under him and who has been DR in Stan (several times) he is exactly right. Again, go FK yourself.

Go Army! :-}

31 posted on 04/01/2011 11:08:23 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Tulane
Besides his spending, his failure to communicate a conservative agenda, his inability to use the bully pulpit to defend himself and his friends, his signing off on the financial bailout, and his role in the two wars that are helping to bankrupt this nation I think he did a fine job. As Barbara Bush said to Palin, I think the next Bush should go back to Florida, Texas, or Kennebunkport Maine. This family needs to be pulled out of the power circles even if you need to take away their walkers.
32 posted on 04/01/2011 11:08:50 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Georgia Girl 2
We can’t fix every country.

We can't, and we shouldn't.

33 posted on 04/01/2011 11:08:52 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Tulane

***I am surprised by the uncivil tone of some freepers here.***

Thank you for that. I thought for a moment that by some cosmic mistake I got onto DU.

And Bush will go down as a great president, while Zero will hopefully just go down.


34 posted on 04/01/2011 11:10:52 AM PDT by kitkat ( I sure HOPE that it's time for a CHANGE from Obama.)
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To: LouAvul

To compare an adult who apparently has been studying and discussing the issues involved with the people most affected for some time to a mere child is absurd.


35 posted on 04/01/2011 11:11:21 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Tulane

I agree. I saw Laura Bush on Greta last night, and their efforts to help the women in Afghanistan are noble. Of course the women in Africa and Central America, etc., etc. need help too. But Afghanistan is brutal towards them. But doesn’t Afghanistan have a lot of untapped oil?

That said, W’s abject failure on borders and immigration is inexcusable.


36 posted on 04/01/2011 11:11:25 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Palter
Nonsense. At least they dropped the bomb.

You're talking about Democrats like Harry Truman. They don't exist anymore. They're all Republicans, now.

37 posted on 04/01/2011 11:12:09 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Just my two cents here, but I think that if GWB had continued to be CIC after 2008, we would have made much better progress in Afghanistan by now, and we wouldn’t have seen the body count rise like it has under Zero.

That is not just 2 cents worth...that is fact.

38 posted on 04/01/2011 11:12:41 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman
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To: La Enchiladita

Don’t let them get to you. You’re right.


39 posted on 04/01/2011 11:12:44 AM PDT by kitkat ( I sure HOPE that it's time for a CHANGE from Obama.)
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To: Will88

Good post. Likewise, if he thinks “we have an obligation to help this young Democracy to survive and thrive”, he’s going to have to point me towards an example of a thriving Democracy in any muslim country. It is fundamentally incompatible with their religion. And so are we.


40 posted on 04/01/2011 11:14:03 AM PDT by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: rabscuttle385

If we stayed in Fubarstan for another 100 years nothing would change. Those people are beyond redemption so long as that satanic religion exists.


41 posted on 04/01/2011 11:14:36 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Tulane
He removed the Taliban.

He did?

Who have we been fighting for last ten years?

42 posted on 04/01/2011 11:15:58 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: rabscuttle385
I think you and your cronies should STFU about Bush.

I would give my right arm to have him back in place of Obama.

The Rino crap in this forum is ridiculous,

I'll take a Rino in place of a liberal anytime.

You would not know a Rino if one bit you in the ass., homebody's Rino is another persons
conservative.

YES..I am a conservative, but I am smart enough to know we need all the votes we can get.

43 posted on 04/01/2011 11:16:02 AM PDT by southphilly
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To: rabscuttle385
RS385, why don't you do us all a favor by sitting down and STFU

You clearly would not know a RINO if it was in the process of trampling you.

44 posted on 04/01/2011 11:16:43 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to...." ;)
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To: rabscuttle385

Hasn’t he screwed America enough already?


45 posted on 04/01/2011 11:17:30 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: lonevoice

And the “young democracies” of both Afghanistan and Iraq based their constitutions on sharia law. The notion that all people want American style freedom and democracy is constantly being disproven in Muslim nations, but that doesn’t seem to sink in with W and others of his belief.

And it will be disproven several more times in most or all of the Muslim nations now experiencing anti-government protests. We want see any new “democracies” that very many Americans will be happy to see.


46 posted on 04/01/2011 11:19:28 AM PDT by Will88
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To: rabscuttle385

I support American Isolationism as a general principle. Intervention in other countries affairs is distasteful to me. I also believe in large numbers of nuclear tipped ICBMs.


47 posted on 04/01/2011 11:19:37 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (That Beck guy was right about gold, too.)
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To: rabscuttle385

History will judge both Afcrapistan and Iraq as not worth it. W can kiss my a$$ for leaving the borders open and calling me a bigot when I complained. The next big terrorist attack on the homeland will come from people who came in here on his watch.


48 posted on 04/01/2011 11:21:05 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: rabscuttle385

We should remove our ground troops from all foreign countries.

We have the best air combat capability in the world. We should bomb the hell out of any country for which we have evidence is involved against our national security.

We should only use ground troops for LIMITED OPERATIONS where the locals will take over in short order.

Our people are much too valuable to send them in open-ended engagements.


49 posted on 04/01/2011 11:23:35 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Show me what Obama brought that was new and there you will find things only radical and destructive.)
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Yea, Afcrapistan is a worthy cause:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2698249/posts

50 posted on 04/01/2011 11:23:53 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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