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[Gov] Walker won't be on the ballot (unions to "get even" by voting environmental lawyer as SCJ)
Baraboo News Republic ^ | March 29, 2011 | Ellen Bueno

Posted on 04/02/2011 5:42:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

On April 5 Wisconsinites will be voting for assorted alderpersons, trustees and school board candidates. The marquee event however, is the hotly contested Unions vs. Gov. Scott Walker race.

Oh sure, the ballot will say something about JoAnne Kloppenburg vs. David Prosser for Wisconsin Supreme Court justice, but they're just bit players in the unions' big play to get revenge on Walker for his budget repair bill. Unions are casting Justice Prosser as a Walker clone and urging Walker haters to use the high court race to punish Prosser/Walker by voting for his opponent, whoever she is.

Prosser, who has been a Supreme Court justice for 12 years, finds himself in the wrong place at the wrong time, being a conservative judge who happens to be up for re-election this year. He says he views the union action as "a little bit like a drive-by shooting."

It's a lot like that. The American Federation of Teachers, Local 212, sent a letter to its members saying legal challenges to Walker's budget repair bill could wind up before the state Supreme Court. It claimed four judges are "anti-union" and said, "A Kloppenburg victory would swing the balance to our side. A vote for Prosser is a vote for Walker. It's time to get even."

[snip]

As for Kloppenburg, we know she's an assistant attorney general most experienced in environmental law. She interned for Chief Justice Abrahamson and clerked for former Chief Judge Barbara Crabb - the judge who ruled against the National Day of Prayer last year.

She makes campaign contributions only to Democrats, and has been endorsed by the big labor and teachers unions. The executive director of NARAL Pro Choice Wisconsin endorses her, as well as numerous liberal environmental activist groups.

The liberals see something in Kloppenburg they like.

It can't be her judicial experience. No, they just need a "Get Even With Walker" candidate, and she'll do. Revenge voters only care about who they're voting against, not who they're voting for.

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Full article at link.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: judicial; legislature; union; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
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1 posted on 04/02/2011 5:42:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

but if the state voted for Walker, isn’t it more Republican? Wouldn’t it be likely that the more conservative judge will win anyway?


2 posted on 04/02/2011 5:46:51 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (Don't retreat...reload!.....and no, I'm not changing my tagline! Pray for Sarah and her family)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The author, Ellen Bueno, has written many wonderful articles in the past for the Baraboo News Republic. She certainly has her head screwed on right. They don’t publish many conservatives as the paper is owned by Capitol Newspapers out of Madistan. In fairness, they also publish Michael Reagan once a week. They then fill their opinion columns with the likes of Bill Press and his ilk the rest of the week.


3 posted on 04/02/2011 5:50:49 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rush and Hannity can save it for Prosser Tuesday afternoon, no matter what the Dems advantages are going in.


4 posted on 04/02/2011 5:50:54 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: CAluvdubya

I doubt that Prosser will win this one as the libs/unions are extremely motivated right now, and Wisconsin has voted dem most of the time. I hope I am wrong, but there it is.


5 posted on 04/02/2011 5:53:32 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: CAluvdubya; Diana in Wisconsin
Let's hope so.

Unfortunately the unions have mobilized to try and get this pathetic creature, Kloffenberg, elected.

She's a piece of work. We have a treatment center in Milwaukee that continues to dump sewage by the tons into Lake Michigan and the DNR, which Kloffenberg represents, does nothing; but she throws an 80 year old farmer into jail because he refused to plant crops to alleviate run-off.

She has a no common sense approach to handling situations with the DNR and property owners.

Fortunately she opposes gun rights, and that has scared a lot of the union faithful.

6 posted on 04/02/2011 5:56:51 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Champion News Talk Radio

On Sunday’s show (8am on WIND am560, Chicago) Jack Roeser and Jim Edwards talk with Bill Zettler, Research Director for the Family Taxpayers Foundation. The discussion will center on the differences between Illinois and Wisconsin public pensions and salaries. With all of the news about Wisconsin’s Governor Walker talking a proactive approach to Wisconsin fiscal management while the unions whine and show their true colors of greed and self interest - we will discuss how Illinois is in far worst financial shape than Wisconsin under Democratic/union leadership.

Listen online live:

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7 posted on 04/02/2011 5:58:31 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: gorush
Fortunately the latest ads about Kloffenberg seem to be working. More and more are seeing what a creep she is.

The NRA also has started sending thousands of post cards out explaining her opposition to gun rights.

8 posted on 04/02/2011 6:00:55 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hopefully the rally of common-sense voters last fall will again prevail to get Prosser re-elected. Union membership in Wisconsin is a small part of the overall work force. Doubtful non-union workers will go for a candidate who wants them to not only pay for their own retirement and health care but the union’s as well. Need to get the word out and the masses to vote for Prosser. If you know Wisconsinites, make a phone call and ask them to do likewise.


9 posted on 04/02/2011 6:01:57 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: CAluvdubya
but if the state voted for Walker, isn’t it more Republican? Wouldn’t it be likely that the more conservative judge will win anyway?

It's an off-year election that typically gets minimal turnout.

The contest will be all about which side has more people who are motivated to show up at the polls.

10 posted on 04/02/2011 6:02:10 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So this is what we have been reduced to. A political faction is pulling out the stops to defeat a judge who they fear will vote in accordance with the state constitution.


11 posted on 04/02/2011 6:03:16 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Love my country, despise my federal government.)
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To: gorush
I doubt that Prosser will win this one as the libs/unions are extremely motivated right now, and Wisconsin has voted dem most of the time. I hope I am wrong, but there it is.

You may be right.

This battle will wage on. Hopefully most sensibly minded people in WI will see through the union tactics.

If the courts stop this bill from being implemented because of the 24 hour notice rule, I see two courses of action for Walker and the WI Senate:

1. Hold another vote giving the proper notification period. Hopefully enough Republicans will stay on board to pass it again.

2. Go ahead and send the pink slips out to the 1,500 employees whose jobs were on the chopping block.

12 posted on 04/02/2011 6:03:39 AM PDT by randita
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To: Northern Yankee

I sure hope you are right. This election will be very telling.


13 posted on 04/02/2011 6:04:17 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: PapaBear3625
Ahhh, that makes sense!

I sure hope we turn out a good number. The unions are definitely motivated!

14 posted on 04/02/2011 6:17:40 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (Don't retreat...reload!.....and no, I'm not changing my tagline! Pray for Sarah and her family)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Question, the first: the vote had been delayed for weeks by the absence of the Dems and then they decide to have the vote. Why did it violate the 24 hour notice???

Question, the second: if Walker and Johnson were both elected statewide, why do the Dems think the state is still so hard-core Left?


15 posted on 04/02/2011 6:20:18 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...
Unions are casting Justice Prosser as a Walker clone and urging Walker haters to use the high court race to punish Prosser/Walker by voting for his opponent, whoever she is.
Thanks Cincinatus' Wife.
16 posted on 04/02/2011 6:23:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; JPG; bushwon; Principle Over Politics; creeping death; LMAO; nina0113; ...
Wisconsin Politics Ping List Ping!
17 posted on 04/02/2011 6:26:21 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: gorush

Be of good faith. Even union guys are calling into the Mke radio shows and saying that they get it. The government employee unions are out of control.

The whacko environmentalist shot herself in the foot by not denouncing a very dirty and dishonest ad about Prosser mishandling a sexual abuse case. But now the victim has filmed an ad saying that Prosser handled it appropriately and denouncing her for abusing him a second time.

The underlying correlation hasn’t gone away, Wisconsin is broke and we can’t raise taxes to fix it. The governor appeared in Janesville last week and they had to bus in protestors from South Dakota. Jesse Jackson was there with some Teamster’s semi trailer. Meanwhile the meeting he was speaking to was 2x higher in attendance than ususal.


18 posted on 04/02/2011 6:29:51 AM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: Northern Yankee

I disagree. It would be good if Possner is reelected. But a Lib steal through union thuggery will make the court another cause celeb by further infuriating the Right. Good long-term results.


19 posted on 04/02/2011 6:32:11 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: CAluvdubya

The state elected Walker but keep in mind that the voter fraud in Madison and Milwaukee is endemic. It has long been a practice to bus welfare recipients from Chicago to Milwaukee to collect that second welfare check and it is equally the practice to bus them from Chicago to Milwaukee to vote. The Dem/union thugs will be pulling out all the stops on this one. Walker should have concentrated first on fixing the walk-in and vote system that Wisconsin is known for (no proof required) and THEN gone after unions. I don’t know that any amount of getting out the vote efforts by Republicans can overcome the fraud that is certain to take place on this one.


20 posted on 04/02/2011 6:36:37 AM PDT by onevoter
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To: sgtyork

I sure hope you are right. It is so frustrating to read every article about anything political around here portrayed from the leftist viewpoint. Media malfeasance is so blatant right now. If Prosser does win it will really give me hope. He is no radical rightwinger (more’s the pity from my point of view) but he is a very decent man who abides by the laws as judges are supposed to do.


21 posted on 04/02/2011 6:39:22 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: originalbuckeye
The reason they made the move quickly was the madhouse environment at the Capital. If they had given lots of notice, the crowds would have swarmed and been screaming and could have stopped the process via intimidation and perhaps invasion of the chambers.

However, be careful in your phrasing. Before they moved this way they consulted non-partisan council from the legislature regarding the timing. The legislature was in special session. In that status, 24 hours was not required, only 2, which they provided. The entire lawsuit hinges on this, and it is a lefty thug overreach because 1) the legislature enforces its own rules, courts don't 2) The judge has inserted herself into the legislative process by not allowing the law to be published. Judges rule on laws that are challenged after they are made. If judges can stop laws they don't like, then we no longer have separation of powers. And then why do we need a legislature?

22 posted on 04/02/2011 6:39:53 AM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: pabianice
Unfortunately if Kloffenberg were to be elected, it could harm Wisconsin in so many ways. Decisions by the State Supreme Court cannot be overturned by the Supreme Court. Decisions are considered a state issue.

Anyway... let's hope and pray for the best!

23 posted on 04/02/2011 6:40:54 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All
GOP fails to get all of professor's email (UW-M chancellor cites academic freedom, privacy) ***In a letter sent campuswide, Martin praised William J. Cronon, a history, geography and environmental studies professor, as one of the university's "most celebrated and respected scholars, teachers, mentors and citizens."***

Cronon is the UW-M "professor" who wrote the OpEd for the NYT associating Gov Walker with "McCarthyism."

24 posted on 04/02/2011 6:43:18 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think it might be effective to use those threatening letters the union sent out against them. Take out ads in the local papers, with the text of the letter and a list of the local businesses that were targeted, and remind people that this is what they’re voting on and that once you submit to extortion there’s no such thing as “enough”.


25 posted on 04/02/2011 6:44:55 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: pabianice

Sounds like twisted logic.


26 posted on 04/02/2011 6:45:54 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: tacticalogic

From: XXXX [Katherine R. Windels of Cross Plains was named in a criminal complaint filed in Dane County Criminal Court]

Sent: Wed 3/9/2011 9:18 PM

To: Sen.Kapanke; Sen.Darling; Sen.Cowles; Sen.Ellis; Sen.Fitzgerald; Sen.Galloway; Sen.Grothman; Sen.Harsdorf; Sen.Hopper; Sen.Kedzie; Sen.Lasee; Sen.Lazich; Sen.Leibham; Sen.Moulton; Sen.Olsen

Subject: Atten: Death threat!!!! Bomb!!!!

Please put your things in order because you will be killed and your familes will also be killed due to your actions in the last 8 weeks. Please explain to them that this is because if we get rid of you and your families then it will save the rights of 300,000 people and also be able to close the deficit that you have created. I hope you have a good time in hell. Read below for more information on possible scenarios in which you will die.

WE want to make this perfectly clear. Because of your actions today and in the past couple of weeks I and the group of people that are working with me have decided that we’ve had enough. We feel that you and the people that support the dictator have to die. We have tried many other ways of dealing with your corruption but you have taken things too far and we will not stand for it any longer. So, this is how it’s going to happen: I as well as many others know where you and your family live, it’s a matter of public records.

We have all planned to assult you by arriving at your house and putting a nice little bullet in your head. However, we decided that we wouldn’t leave it there. We also have decided that this may not be enough to send the message to you since you are so “high” on Koch and have decided that you are now going to single handedly make this a dictatorship instead of a demorcratic process. So we have also built several bombs that we have placed in various locations around the areas in which we know that you frequent.This includes, your house, your car, the state capitol, and well I won’t tell you all of them because that’s just no fun.

Since we know that you are not smart enough to figure out why this is happening to you we have decided to make it perfectly clear to you. If you and your goonies feel that it’s necessary to strip the rights of 300,000 people and ruin their lives, making them unable to feed, clothe, and provide the necessities to their families and themselves then We Will “get rid of” (in which I mean kill) you. Please
understand that this does not include the heroic Rep. Senator that risked everything to go aganist what you and your goonies wanted him to do. We feel that it’s worth our lives to do this, because we would be saving the lives
of 300,000 people. Please make your peace with God as soon as possible and say goodbye to your loved ones we will not wait any longer. YOU WILL DIE!!!!

http://www.620wtmj.com/shows/charliesykes/117726263.html?blog=y


27 posted on 04/02/2011 6:54:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I know. But they can argue that was one lone “disturbed individual”. Then can’t make that arguement with the letters from the union.


28 posted on 04/02/2011 6:58:24 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

If you have a link to them, please add it to the thread.

Thanks!


29 posted on 04/02/2011 7:11:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: gorush

We are getting the word out. I’ve seen a few Prosser signs and even a 4’x8’ yard sign in my county. I think the common sense people will rise up. It’s too bad that voter ID wasn’t passed first.


30 posted on 04/02/2011 7:13:24 AM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.conservativedna.com/)
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To: randita

That is the ace in the hole for Walker, and maybe some of the unionistas get that. If he loses this battle Walker can lay off thousands if he wants to. Either way, the budget gets balanced.


31 posted on 04/02/2011 7:19:12 AM PDT by cbvanb
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here's a thread from yesterday.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2698362/posts

It contains some of the text of the letter, but not all of it. Apparently there were more letters sent, and I don't see any reason they couldn't be published with the consent of the recipients. Even some of the local union members were embarassed and mad about it.

32 posted on 04/02/2011 7:25:59 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: cbvanb
That is the ace in the hole for Walker, and maybe some of the unionistas get that. If he loses this battle Walker can lay off thousands if he wants to. Either way, the budget gets balanced. If Prosser loses, I see it playing out differently. The unions don't care about short term losses, they only care about insuring that their union dues are collected. If Prosser loses and Walker announces layoffs, the union will agree to temporary givebacks to help balance the budget. The temporary givebacks will, of course, not include giving up their collective bargaining priviledges.
33 posted on 04/02/2011 7:36:05 AM PDT by NRG1973
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It sounds as though the union girlymen are a little upset. They’ll get over. Commie losers usually do.


34 posted on 04/02/2011 7:37:07 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (How's that Keynesian economics working out for ya so far?)
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To: tacticalogic

Thank you. From the article linked in your post.

[excerpt] UNION GROVE - Local union members apologized to business owners Thursday after hearing union leadership threatened to boycott businesses.

The stunning development happened late Thursday afternoon at Village Dollar, where members with the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees showed their support to businesses that were targeted.

It all started after Dawn Bobo, owner of Village Dollar in Union Grove, refused to put up a sign supporting AFSCME.

The public union is against Governor Scott Walker’s plan to take away most collective bargaining rights for its members.

Bobo didn’t want to take sides, fearing she would offend customers.

“I have customers from all walks of life, “she said. “In a tough economy you need everyone here.”

But apparently that wasn’t good enough for AFSCME Union Rep. Jim Parrett, who sent her a letter that reads in part:

“We’d ask that you reconsider taking a sign and stance to support public employees in this community. Failure to do so will leave us no choice but do a public boycott of your business.”

“It rubbed me the wrong way,” said customer John Charnon.

He and other customers drove out of their way to shop at Village Dollar Thursday. According to Bobo, business tripled because of it.

Even some local AFSCME union members called the threats “thuggish”.....[end excerpt]


35 posted on 04/02/2011 7:39:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: NRG1973
.....The temporary givebacks will, of course, not include giving up their collective bargaining priviledges.

Exactamundo! A little Spanish lingo....

36 posted on 04/02/2011 7:41:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think it might make an effective campaign to publish ads in local papers, listing the local businesses that were threatened. People are more likely to go vote when they feel like they have a personal stake in an issue, and they’re more likely to have that if they recognize the names of local businesses that they may shop at or know people who work there.


37 posted on 04/02/2011 7:50:56 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

Indeed!

According to that story, these over the top, out of hand bulling tactics disgust people.


38 posted on 04/02/2011 7:56:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
According to that story, these over the top, out of hand bulling tactics disgust people.

And that's what we need to leverage. The problem is not necessarily the union members themselves, but the union leadership and representation. That's who the state has to negotiate with on behalf of the taxpayers, and they're out of control.

39 posted on 04/02/2011 8:04:55 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The voters elected a republican majority in November. Now the democrats talk about getting even. It’s too bad the “people” can’t REALLY get even.


40 posted on 04/02/2011 8:45:54 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Kloppenberg i.e. union people are trying to revoke the recently passed union bill by putting a leftist on the Wisconsin Supreme Court. These clowns are actually trying to argue that with a Pubbie legislature and gov, Prosser would be a conservative and controlled by the right. As if Kloppenberg isn’t going to take her marching orders from the unions. It’s a joke.


41 posted on 04/02/2011 8:47:31 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: tacticalogic

The rank and file need to get out from under the control of these bosses.


42 posted on 04/02/2011 8:54:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: driftless2
"...These clowns are actually trying to argue that with a Pubbie legislature and gov, Prosser would be a conservative and controlled by the right...."

And the column makes clear Kloppenberg is the ideologue:

....She [Kloppenberg] is promising to be an impartial judge, of course. But since she's never been a judge before, there are no Kloppenburg rulings out there to prove whether she's impartial or not.

Prosser's rulings, though, are a matter of public record. We see that he often concurs with the other conservative judges, but he's not an ideologue. The Wisconsin Law Journal reported in August that Prosser also concurred with the liberal justices more than half the time...

43 posted on 04/02/2011 8:59:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It seems some of them already know that, and more are starting to figure it out.


44 posted on 04/02/2011 9:21:55 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: pabianice
Good long-term results.

Long term being ten years or more! I can't wait that long....I will literally be forced out of my house by its declining value and ever-increasing property taxes. It's now or never.

And unfortunately, the stars are very misaligned against poor Justice Prosser. The only other major race that is occuring in this spring election is a hotly contested mayoral race between lefty and leftier in Madison. There are no similar races in conservative leaning areas to couteract the Godzilla of Dane County voters.

I really want to believe that the left will receive another huge slap in the face with a Prosser win. I am less optimistic about that on a daily basis.

45 posted on 04/02/2011 9:57:50 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Wisconsin taxpayers - don't go wobbly on us now!)
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To: cbvanb; randita
I would like to see the Gov issue pink slips on Wednesday, regardless of the outcome of Tuesday's election. Mary Ann Sumi has given both sides until MAY 23 to collect their briefs for further arguments about her TRO on the Budget Repair Bill. I realize Governor Walker is trying the best he can not to lay people off - it's time for him to stop caring it.

I do not have sufficient words to express my total and complete disgust with the commie libs in this state.

46 posted on 04/02/2011 10:06:03 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Wisconsin taxpayers - don't go wobbly on us now!)
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To: CAluvdubya

If WI is like IL, the voters in the cities like Milwaukee (or Chicago in IL) can control the outcome for the rural areas. Also, it is easy to commit vote fraud in these urban areas....


47 posted on 04/02/2011 10:12:31 AM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; NRG1973
..The temporary givebacks will, of course, not include giving up their collective bargaining priviledges.

Should the very worst happen and Kloppenberg is elected, Scott Walker still has one of the most powerful Governor's pen in the nation. He has a year before an attempt to recall him can be enacted. I wonder if an EO decertifying unions in Wisconsin would sufficiently cripple their cash flow to the extent that even a recall effort would fail.

48 posted on 04/02/2011 10:12:42 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Wisconsin taxpayers - don't go wobbly on us now!)
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To: Mygirlsmom; cbvanb

I bet that if Walker does roll out the pink slips, the unions will be on the court’s doorstep again within minutes of the pink slips being received.

They’ll find some sympathetic judge who will rule that it’s unconstitutional for Walker to lay off those workers.

I just hope that Walker is anticipating all these shenanigans and has a plan to stay one step ahead of them.


49 posted on 04/02/2011 10:23:18 AM PDT by randita
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To: CAluvdubya

Prosser got 55% in the non-partisan primary. Kloppenburg only got 25%.

I talked off the record with a guy who has internal polling. The numbers show the liberals firming up their base, but not drawing off all that many who were going to vote for Prosser. Over the past few years, voters have almost always gone for the more conservative judicial candidate, even in years when democrats had most other statewide offices.

It’s all about turnout. Conservatives have to work to make sure their voters actually vote.


50 posted on 04/02/2011 10:26:10 AM PDT by MediaMole
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