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Southwest Airlines grounds 81 planes after emergency
Reuters ^ | Sat Apr 2, 2011 10:57am EDT | David Schwartz

Posted on 04/02/2011 9:16:29 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative

(Reuters) - Southwest Airlines grounded 81 aircraft from its Boeing 737 fleet for inspection after a gaping hole in the fuselage forced one of its planes to make emergency landing in Arizona on Friday, the company said on Saturday.

Southwest (LUV.N) and Boeing (BA.N) engineers will inspect the aircraft to try to determine the cause, Southwest said in a statement. Passengers heard a loud noise and suddenly saw a hole about mid-cabin.

Southwest Airlines is working with the National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Aviation Administration on the ground in Arizona to determine the cause of a sudden drop in cabin pressure on Southwest Flight 812 from Phoenix to Sacramento on Friday, airline officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; airlines; airplanehole; airtravel; aviation; boeing; flight812; southwestairlines; swa
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I've been wanting to post this story for several hours, but was only able to find rumors rather than links to news sites.

I had to excerpt, but the stuff I cut out was rehashed info from previous reports.

1 posted on 04/02/2011 9:16:34 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

ALOHA???


2 posted on 04/02/2011 9:19:58 AM PDT by SteamShovel ("Does the noise in my head bother you?")
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To: Paleo Conservative

Help me out, what is “a gaping hole in the fuselage” mean? Sorry, Internet challenged on my BB...how large was this? Was it a “tear”, “rupture”?


3 posted on 04/02/2011 9:20:17 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Paleo Conservative
"...to determine the cause of a sudden drop in cabin pressure..."

Pressure vessel rupture due to fatigue.

4 posted on 04/02/2011 9:21:20 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paleo Conservative

It was Dick Cheney and Haliburton.


5 posted on 04/02/2011 9:21:51 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Michael Barnes

According to the news report last night, the hole was about 4-5 feet long and about two feet wide. You could see daylight from the cabin.


6 posted on 04/02/2011 9:24:18 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: Paleo Conservative
It should be a riveting investigation.
7 posted on 04/02/2011 9:25:30 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: catbertz

Wow.


8 posted on 04/02/2011 9:25:56 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Paleo Conservative

Our son flew with Southwest Airlines to Orlando on a high school class trip early this morning. Having read about the emergency landing, I was mightily relieved when they landed safely about an hour ago.


9 posted on 04/02/2011 9:26:00 AM PDT by Think free or die
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To: Paleo Conservative

This was on Fox last night (I think it was Fox). I think the hole was in the ceiling of the plane.


10 posted on 04/02/2011 9:26:44 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Paleo Conservative
Southwest Airlines is working with the National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Aviation Administration on the ground in Arizona to determine the cause of a sudden drop in cabin pressure

Could it have been the gaping hole in the side of the plane? Just a thought.
11 posted on 04/02/2011 9:26:50 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Carry_Okie

Worker have resumed injecting seawater into the gap.


12 posted on 04/02/2011 9:27:05 AM PDT by omega4179 (No war for Brotherhood.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

13 posted on 04/02/2011 9:28:26 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Michael Barnes


14 posted on 04/02/2011 9:31:02 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: catbertz

Yep, I’d say that could be accurately described as a “gaping hole.”


15 posted on 04/02/2011 9:33:08 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Must have been windy...


16 posted on 04/02/2011 9:35:11 AM PDT by farlander (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: blueunicorn6

Sabotage?


17 posted on 04/02/2011 9:35:16 AM PDT by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: Paleo Conservative
determine the cause of a sudden drop in cabin pressure

I may be way off base and I am not an engineer but I bet the "gaping hole about mid cabin" was the cause. Sounds like an emergency exit door departed.

18 posted on 04/02/2011 9:37:43 AM PDT by hattend (Obama got his 3am call about Egypt. The call went right to the answering machine.- Sarah Palin)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Fly Southwest...

Photobucket

19 posted on 04/02/2011 9:38:34 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: blueunicorn6

Are you sure it was’t Bush’s fault?


20 posted on 04/02/2011 9:39:37 AM PDT by CanadianYankee
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

The way these planes are designed, there’s reinforcements in the fuselage that are theoretically, in the case of metal fatigue, only supposed to allow a limited portion of the fuselage to tear away. They’re designed to prevent wholesale failures like Aloha 243 and the BOAC Comet crashes in the 1950s. In this case, they appear to have worked and limited the blowout to one panel.

}:-)4


21 posted on 04/02/2011 9:44:09 AM PDT by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: Paleo Conservative

Hate to read that. Southwest is about the only airline I want to fly...usually extremely safe and efficient.

Hope it gets fixed and causes them no injuries to any passengers....nor hardships to the company. I guess some of
the 737s are getting along in years.


22 posted on 04/02/2011 9:45:32 AM PDT by LUV W (Our Constitution was made....for a moral and religious people.~~John Adams)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Bush’s fault...


23 posted on 04/02/2011 9:51:47 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Vaquero

WOW!!!!

That’d change the color of my underwear.....but quick!


24 posted on 04/02/2011 10:00:27 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Paleo Conservative
The overhead bin finally exploded.

Or, it's their new gimmick... skylights.

25 posted on 04/02/2011 10:00:30 AM PDT by ponygirl
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To: Moose4

Exactly


26 posted on 04/02/2011 10:02:51 AM PDT by MindBender26 (While the MSM slept.... we have become relevant media in Ameirca.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I read in one article the plane was 15 years old, not really that old in terms of commercial airliners.


27 posted on 04/02/2011 10:04:37 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Jane Long
Sabotage?

No, fuselage.

:^)

28 posted on 04/02/2011 10:05:25 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Michael Barnes; Moonman62; All

Moonman provided this link on an earlier thread. It shows how fast the plane descended. I’m sure the passengers thought they were going to die.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA812/history/20110401/2225Z/KPHX/KNYL/tracklog


29 posted on 04/02/2011 10:07:04 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: catbertz
According to the news report last night, the hole was about 4-5 feet long and about two feet wide. You could see daylight from the cabin.

Wouldn't a hole that big cause people to be sucked out of it? That is, unless you had a fat person who could plug the hole temporarily and save the rest of the passengers. (Hmmm, sounds like a "movie of the week" idea...)

30 posted on 04/02/2011 10:07:38 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: hattend

No, it was the sudden appearance of a sun roof.


31 posted on 04/02/2011 10:07:54 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: catbertz
According to the news report last night, the hole was about 4-5 feet long and about two feet wide. You could see daylight from the cabin.

Wouldn't a hole that big cause people to be sucked out of it? That is, unless you had a fat person who could plug the hole temporarily and save the rest of the passengers. (Hmmm, sounds like a "movie of the week" idea...)

32 posted on 04/02/2011 10:07:57 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I’ve taken that flight to SAC numerous times in the last year


33 posted on 04/02/2011 10:08:05 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Pray for Obama ... Psalms 109:8)
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Passenger Flatus?


34 posted on 04/02/2011 10:10:33 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

FUTURE SOUTHWEST GREETINGS:

“Good morning and thank you for choosing Southwest Airlines. Our flight crew would like to welcome you aboard our Boeing 737 convertible. For today’s flight, we plan to keep the top closed, though you’re free to take in the view any nearby window.”


35 posted on 04/02/2011 10:12:17 AM PDT by HKMk23 (Nietzsche: "God is dead." God: "Nietzsche is dead." Cthulu: "Dead is god." God: "LOL! Riiiight.")
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To: Paleo Conservative

Reason number 687 why I have quit flying for good.

From the looks of those pics, it appears an explosive device placed in the overhead storage bin went off. But obviously not completely or with full force as the plane was able to land safely.


36 posted on 04/02/2011 10:14:35 AM PDT by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: driftdiver

Yeah, I keep saying I must scroll all the way down before posting... but I never do. [sigh]


37 posted on 04/02/2011 10:16:17 AM PDT by hattend (Obama got his 3am call about Egypt. The call went right to the answering machine.- Sarah Palin)
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To: OrangeHoof

I saw footage of the hole, and while big enough for a person to possibly fit through, the hole was obstructed by overhead compartments and whatnot. I’m no expert, so I can’t answer whether people can be sucked out of a man-sized hole. I remember that event where the whole top of a plane ripped off and people were swept away, but that’s an extreme example.


38 posted on 04/02/2011 10:16:31 AM PDT by catbertz
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I’m no expert, so I can’t answer whether people can be sucked out of a man-sized hole.

I just Tweeted this to Barney Frank to get his opinion. /sarc

39 posted on 04/02/2011 10:18:09 AM PDT by library user (Just because you're homeless doesn't mean you're lazy.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Passengers heard a loud noise and suddenly saw a hole about mid-cabin.

They had to land so that everyone could change their drawers.

40 posted on 04/02/2011 10:20:12 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (If you're not a personhood pro-lifer, your conservatism is fatally flawed.)
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To: upchuck

The same thing (but worse) happened some years ago to a flight near the Hawaiian islands. A stewardess got sucked out and was lost in the Pacific Ocean. No explosives involved- it was a metal fatigue issue, if I recall correctly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Airlines_Flight_243


41 posted on 04/02/2011 10:21:29 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; namsman; jpsb; decimon; ...

If you want on or off this aerospace ping list, please contact Paleo Conservative or phantomworker by Freep mail.


42 posted on 04/02/2011 10:24:13 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: driftdiver

OMG. Thanks for that link. That must have been a terrifying plunge. Sure it’s meant to save them, and allow breathing again, but I might have died of a heart attack lol.


43 posted on 04/02/2011 10:24:58 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: library user
I’m no expert, so I can’t answer whether people can be sucked out of a man-sized hole. I just Tweeted this to Barney Frank to get his opinion. /sarc

ROFLOL!! Sooo not expecting that line. I'll be in the ER..recovering :)

44 posted on 04/02/2011 10:27:27 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: Paleo Conservative
Southwest Airlines is working...to determine the cause of a sudden drop in cabin pressure

The cause of the loss of cabin pressure is the big frickin' hole in the side of the jet. What they want to do is find the root cause of the structural failure. Reporters are idiots.

45 posted on 04/02/2011 10:33:13 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Could have been worse. In 1988, a flight stewardess flew out the window at 20k feet when the fuselage broke apart mid-flight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aloha_Airlines_Flight_243_fuselage.png


46 posted on 04/02/2011 10:36:47 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: OrangeHoof
Wouldn't a hole that big cause people to be sucked out of it?

The hole was overhead, so the wind would have to be strong enough to lift a person straight up. Decompression would have been complete in a second or so with a hole that big.

47 posted on 04/02/2011 10:37:19 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Paleo Conservative

“Passengers heard a loud noise and suddenly saw a hole about mid-cabin.”

A loud noise? All of the local station passenger interviews are reporting an explosion or pop similar to a shot gun blast.


48 posted on 04/02/2011 10:38:19 AM PDT by Selene
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To: driftdiver

The hole in the ceiling is for the unloading of passengers only, no parking.


49 posted on 04/02/2011 10:38:25 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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To: catbertz

They lost a flight attendant from the Aloha Airlines flight in the 1980s, so the answer is “yes”, people can be sucked out.

There is also a case of a pilot being sucked out when a cockpit window failed and the co-pilot had to fly solo (saw it on the show Air Emergency, don’t remember the year or airline). The pilot lost consciousness nearly instantly. I hope for his sake he never woke up.


50 posted on 04/02/2011 10:39:16 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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