Posted on 04/04/2011 7:32:51 AM PDT by CreviceTool
The crescendo of complaints about Gov. Rick Snyders proposed budget which infuriated a mass ensemble of groups throughout Michigan sounds a common theme. By most accounts, people seem to agree that shared sacrifice, as the governor has put it, is fair and necessary to help Michigan establish a sustainable state government. But few can agree on the definition of fair. And there has been little agreement on a better alternative.
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Poll to FReep (Michigan Budget cuts)
My one and only problem with Snyder’s proposal is that he wants to take away from K-12 schools and give to universities and colleges. His proposal is that we consider the money to fund schools as, not a K-12 issue but a K-20 issue. The fact that he is a Univ of Michigan professor should have been a warning since U of M is so liberal that it is over the top. I am not a teacher but I live in a small town and see our school struggling, while just in the last five years, colleges and universities in the state have increased their administrations (and administrative costs) by 50 percent - all the while raising tuition rates. Cuts to public schools are one thing but cutting public schools in order to give to colleges and universities is something else altogether. Colleges and Universities should not be entitled to education tax dollars.
Govt in Michigan needs to be leaner, and butt out of our wallets. We already pay enough.
What I don't understand is the diff in taxation on 401k’s and pensions. Personally I think when you finally become a senior after working all of your life, and paying taxes, the govt should get none of that money. But 401k’s are taxed once you start taking from it.
So this just confuses me to no end. One is company paid (pensions) and one is self sacrifice (401k). Why are they any more special?
But he’s also cutting some 15% of the funding from universities. My uncle expects to lose his job teaching at UofM. Fortunately he’s pragmatic about it.
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Cutting taxes has pulled even at progressive headquarter city, Ann Arbor:
es. Snyder’s budget is fair and spreads the pain.
403
Yes. But the business tax cut and pension tax increase are too steep.
194
No. We should be investing in cities and education, not cutting.
406
No. Wealthier citizens should pay more because they can afford more.
407
“So this just confuses me to no end. One is company paid (pensions) and one is self sacrifice (401k). Why are they any more special?”
I have the same questions and the only answer that I can come up with is that pensions are generally what union members have as a retirement plan and 401K’s are generally white collar workers...at least historically. Now, I think that it is mostly limited to the UAW and gov’t workers....
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There is no shortage of idiots in Michiganistan.
* Yes. Snyder’s budget is fair and spreads the pain.
437
* Yes. But the business tax cut and pension tax increase are too steep, and I want more socialism than that.
200
* No. We want more money for our failing schools and cities that don’t get any better no matter how many rich people we rip off nor how much money we pour into them.
414
* No. Socialism, fascism, and communism are the only way to go, and the filthy rich should pay more because I think they can afford more, the greedy bastids.
413
Well it is an Ann Arbor paper. LOL
Yes, that’s the reason for the plethora of idiots, LOL!
We import idiots from outside the state.
how much “sharing the pain” are our legislators doing?
how about their staff?
governor’s appointees?
Sanity prevailed in liberal A-squared:
Final results
Yes. Snyder’s budget is fair and spreads the pain.
516
No. Wealthier citizens should pay more because they can afford more.
503
No. We should be investing in cities and education, not cutting.
493
Yes. But the business tax cut and pension tax increase are too steep.
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