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Boehner to introduce one-week stopgap to stave off shutdown (Pelosi had more of a pair)
The Hill ^ | 04/04/11 | Molly K. Hooper and Russell Berman

Posted on 04/04/2011 8:17:40 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy

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To: Walts Ice Pick

hell, what does it matter anyway, take a swig and pass the misery around... just be sure to make mine a double shot of som’n good...


101 posted on 04/04/2011 9:40:23 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: dadfly

Hey n00b, did you know *America* is capitalized if one can read and write at a third grade level?

What an embarrassment.


102 posted on 04/04/2011 9:41:46 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

yes like the military but is symbolic as funding for the essential part of government wouldn’t stop in the so called “shutdown.”

i really hope you’re right. that boehner wins. but unless he’s gone as speaker, i don’t have much hope at this point after three months.

so, i’m making all my personal family, financial plans and preparations for a loss at this point. it’s the only rational approach for me.

america is on life support, but 2 years ago. it was dead. history or a divine wind could give us a game changer. pray. and keep faxing boehner and the repubs.


103 posted on 04/04/2011 9:43:36 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Siena Dreaming

John we have to stop meeting like this.....


104 posted on 04/04/2011 9:44:12 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy (The Obama beat down of America continues)
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To: ClearCase_guy
We're always 2 years away from really doing something.

I've personally been hearing this same crap about cutting government from the GOP for twenty years but government spending and power always seems to increase even when they control the entire Federal government. The most sickening thing are excuses from your average dim-bulb Republican as to why its actually raining on our collective back and we have just got to vote for the R's or those devilish D's will really sink us. Puh-lease. When are these suckers going to realize the purpose of the GOP is to mollify conservatives and waste all their political energies on utterly trivial matters while the real work of creating a One World Government goes on unabated.

105 posted on 04/04/2011 9:44:17 PM PDT by Roninf5-1 (If ignorance is bliss why are so many Americans on anti-depressants?)
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To: dadfly

And which Rogers are you referring to, genius?


106 posted on 04/04/2011 9:45:53 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

Has he started crying yet?

Say good bye Boehner!


107 posted on 04/04/2011 10:00:15 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama & try him for treason / Homosexuals reject diversity / Unions finally caught for theft)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Siena Dreaming; Marine_Uncle
The Dems definitely have a game Plan for total takeover....

FR Thread that is relevant to all of the sniping going on here:

GOP Aim: Cut $4 Trillion ( 2012 budget and beyond)

108 posted on 04/04/2011 10:03:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The bill the House passed didn’t touch the 109 billion Obamacare bucks. It only defunded the minuscule discretionary portion of Obamacare spending.


109 posted on 04/04/2011 10:11:23 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: hatfieldmccoy

having read approximately 1/2 of the comments here I wonder what ever became of “constructive criticism”.


110 posted on 04/04/2011 10:17:09 PM PDT by callthemlikeyouseethem (Biden10/19/08: "I probably shouldn't have said all this because.. the press is here")
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To: Siena Dreaming
The budget IS being cut.

You must be using Washington math. Boehner, Ryan, et all are all blowing smoke.. Year-to-year spending by the Federal government is increasing every year. There are NO cuts, only accounting gimmicks. When the absolute spending (adjusted for "real" inflation) is reduced year-to-year, then one can say cuts are happening. Until then, it's all B.S.

If QE3 happens, everyone will quickly see how fragile is the house of cards built by the elites in D.C.

111 posted on 04/04/2011 10:25:33 PM PDT by sand88
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To: Siena Dreaming; CharlesWayneCT; Marine_Uncle; sybilll; onyx
Just posted this transcript from the weekend WSJ discussion on Foxnews regarding the budget battles :

Is $61 Billion Enough?

...to satisfy the Teaparty.....

112 posted on 04/04/2011 10:38:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

GOP = Gutless Old Party


113 posted on 04/04/2011 10:39:40 PM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

any man who cries over victory...nuff said...unless it’s been a grueling war or something very heavy..but an election

can you see Sir Winston or Magnus crying over defeating the Left

lol


114 posted on 04/04/2011 10:43:14 PM PDT by wardaddy (ok...Trump---Sarah----Michelle.....any of them are ok for now---tain't picky)
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To: hatfieldmccoy
If I thought Boner had any intestinal fortitude I would give him a pass, but the absolute weaseling coming from Boner and Can'tor kill me. Every week is more BS.


115 posted on 04/04/2011 10:45:29 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Southack

I hope you are right Southack....


116 posted on 04/04/2011 10:48:03 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Judge Rules Health Care Law Is Unconstitutional

Published January 31, 2011

| FoxNews.com

‘”I applaud the ruling today by Judge Vinson,” said Florida Gov. Rick Scott, who, prior to getting elected in November, helped lead the charge against the law. “In making his ruling, the judge has confirmed what many of us knew from the start — ObamaCare is an unprecedented and unconstitutional infringement on the liberty of the American people. ... Patients should have more control over health care decisions than a federal government that is spending money faster than it can be printed.”’

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/31/judges-ruling-health-care-lawsuit-shift-momentum-coverage-debate/


117 posted on 04/04/2011 11:35:28 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Siena Dreaming

Siena Dreaming wrote:
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Like I said...all excuses end when the SC strikes it down.
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That would sure be nice, but unfortunately the Supreme Court is so unpredictable anymore that one just never knows how it’s going to rule on any given issue.

Basically, it’s all going to come down to Justice Kennedy’s opinion. Even though he leans conservative, I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if the left is currently working behind the scenes to illegally bribe him with some backdoor “Cornhusker Kickback” type deal.


118 posted on 04/05/2011 1:06:43 AM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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To: hatfieldmccoy

Smart thing would be to stop trying to pass a comprehensive budget for the rest of the year.

Instead, work on seperate budgets for each Federal department. (Department of Defense, State Department, Department of Commerce, etc, etc, etc).

Then, push the ‘departmental’ spending bills that contain the least cuts out for passage first (like for the DoD). Since Democraps hate to cut spending *EVER*, they won’t have a problem voting for the spending bills.

But then, the ‘departmental’ spending bills for departments that really shouldn’t even exist will be left... and all the money from the previous ‘temporary’ spending bill will have been exhausted.

So when the Democrats scream that the Republicans have shut down the government, the Republicans can point to the fact that Federal departments are fully funded (just not all of them... heh heh). That would blunt the Democrat’s propaganda weaponry.

And it would force the Democrats to seriously come to the negotiating table for substantial talks... as if they don’t, their pet projects simply won’t be reauthorized for funds (since they *ALREADY* ran out of the money). Though, if they don’t, then the Republicans will have met the dreams of the TEA party, which was to seriously cut the deficit and shrink the size of the government.

And if all the spending bills for the Federal departments that Democraps favor aren’t negotiated out, then they are shut down... shrinking government and cutting spending.

It’s a win-win no matter what the Democraps do.


119 posted on 04/05/2011 1:10:50 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: conservativehistorian

conservativehistorian wrote:
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In all this commentary there is no mention of the riders passed in the original House 2011 Budget bill. What is the fate of PP, NPR, Obamacare, EPA - all more important to this conservative than the budget reduction.
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That’s just it. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe any of the budget cuts resulting from the Continuing Resolutions make any cuts to the appropriations you’ve mentioned.


120 posted on 04/05/2011 1:17:36 AM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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To: hatfieldmccoy
“We’re serious about trying to prevent a government shutdown."

This is excellent politics.

Boehner is taking the lead with another preemptive strike. Notice that it's Boehner who is leading the efforts, and not Reid or any other Democrat, to prevent a "government shutdown". Boehner knows there will be a shutdown, and he is cementing the notion ahead of time that the Republicans did everything they could to prevent it from happening. See, mindless rabble? It's the Democrats' fault!

I love that the Republicans are finally learning the art of political jiu jitsu.

121 posted on 04/05/2011 1:35:26 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Siena Dreaming

Siena Dreaming wrote:
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The budget IS being cut.
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Congress has cut $10 billion over a five week period via two continuing resolutions.

Yet the national debt is increasing at a rate of approximately $4 billion A DAY!

Pardon the unintended pun, but that just ain’t gonna cut it!


122 posted on 04/05/2011 1:38:29 AM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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To: Southack

Compassionate, what in the world is that sucking sound.!!!!


123 posted on 04/05/2011 1:39:35 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You are correct, living up to commitments, is just so yesterday, why hell let the spending continue, we will show them next year. Party, party, party. That will last until people say they are lying about fixing things, going to vote, hell why bother. That will be the end results.


124 posted on 04/05/2011 1:47:24 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: jeltz25

You seem to have forgotten about the additional tens of billions a week they are spending at the same time they are “cutting” a week here and a week there.


125 posted on 04/05/2011 1:58:36 AM PDT by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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To: LUV W

he got the job only because he looks better on TV than the others ... wake up people


126 posted on 04/05/2011 2:41:53 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

Not pleased, but do understand it if they are on the brink of a real deal. We need to put 2011 to bed so we can adopt the Ryan 2012 plan.


127 posted on 04/05/2011 3:59:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: Lazamataz

lol, what makes you think if they don’t have a backbone to win the budget issue in 2011 that the Ryan Plan will ever see the light of day for 2012?


128 posted on 04/05/2011 4:03:19 AM PDT by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: Siena Dreaming

I heard the same from a DC insider.


129 posted on 04/05/2011 4:03:36 AM PDT by jenk (ima go with tgo)
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To: Walts Ice Pick

Obama has already cut their SS, by not allowing any COL increases. Not only that, but most SS recipients remember what the promise of America once was. Tea partiers are not dumb, pal. They know damn well that the future of their grandchildren rests on how they push their congress.


130 posted on 04/05/2011 4:13:33 AM PDT by jenk (ima go with tgo)
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To: parksstp
lol, what makes you think if they don’t have a backbone to win the budget issue in 2011 that the Ryan Plan will ever see the light of day for 2012?

Three reasons:

1) 2011 was the opposition's job.

2) The urgency of this budget makes it impossible to negotiate without the 'impending doom' of the shutdown.

3) More time will be available for educating the populace and countering the lies from the Professional Left.

131 posted on 04/05/2011 4:15:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: Siena Dreaming

maybe not Boehner, but you sure are displaying the group think of DC.


132 posted on 04/05/2011 4:16:59 AM PDT by jenk (ima go with tgo)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

Delaying the inevitable...

Maybe its time to flush the entire cadre of knuckleheads this next election...

Might be too late by then...


133 posted on 04/05/2011 4:25:40 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: stevie_d_64

boehner needs spinal viagra.


134 posted on 04/05/2011 4:27:48 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: dadfly

I think they are the modern day Whigs. They are simply trying to save the failed system rather than eliminate the root cause of the problem. Sorry but that will not cut it. I am going back to being a happy Libertarian. Republicans are always going to flop.


135 posted on 04/05/2011 4:31:23 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

Folks if you aren’t on Facebook, sign up if for no other reason than to “talk” to your officials. Boehner is showing himself to be a spineless man who must have forgotten about the november election.


136 posted on 04/05/2011 4:31:53 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: hatfieldmccoy

People who know me but respect my opinion could not understand why I was not optimistic when the Republicans took the House last November.

I tried hard not to be pessimistic.

I want the pink-tie crybaby GONE. Replace him. He is not only worthless, he is AIDING THE ENEMY.


137 posted on 04/05/2011 4:32:11 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: wardaddy

As a matter of fact, I haven’t seen Bachmann cry at all.


138 posted on 04/05/2011 4:32:52 AM PDT by jenk (ima go with tgo)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

So much for winning the House in November.


139 posted on 04/05/2011 4:37:34 AM PDT by fwdude (The world is sleeping in the dark that the Church just can't fight, 'cause it's asleep in the light.)
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To: Siena Dreaming

If we had conservative leaders who know how to play a dirty little game called Politics, it would be an excellent idea.

Did you forget how the left essentially “shut down” a portion of the government out in the midwest recently? The government unions “shut down” the government whenever they need to promote their cause and make a gain. And it works well...because they know how to use it politically.

What does shutting down the government mean? Have you swallowed the propaganda BS that it means shutting everything down, grinding all government services to a halt?

Well that would be incorrect. What they want to do is keep the essential services up-and-running but shut down the non-essential services.

That is EXACTLY what we need to do.

If you don’t pay your electric bill, the utility company SHUTS DOWN YOUR ELECTRICITY.

Well the leftist who ran this country into the ground for the past 5 years HAVE NOT BEEN PAYING THEIR BILLS.

We need an orchestrated campaign to communicate to the people where we are fiscally, how we got here, why we need to shut SOME portions of our government down, AND WE NEED TO PLAY POLITICS IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE LEFT LOSES.

These G-D Republicans keep caving to these effing tyrants and giving ground every day.

AND I’M SICK OF OUR SIDE RUNNING AND HIDING. WE NEED TO SHOVE IT DOWN THEIR THROATS.


140 posted on 04/05/2011 4:38:21 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Siena Dreaming

So did our Founding Fathers.

There is good restructuring and there is bad restructuring.

We’ve been suffering the demise of America and American ideals since the 19-teens thanks to Statism.

IT IS TIME TO TEAR STATISM DOWN.


141 posted on 04/05/2011 4:41:00 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Siena Dreaming

There is no longer any “we win” scenario. Everything is too far gone to recover. We have a 14+ trillion dollar debt which will hit its cap next month apparently. Everyone will of course vote to raise the debt ceiling again to avoid a crisis. Gas prices are starting to get out of hand, I know for me personally its hitting me hard. We have countries looking to unload our debt and dumping dollars as their currency reserve. Once all countries dump us as the reserve then it really will get bad. The only thing thats keeping us afloat is our ability to print money. If we lose our currency as the world reserve then we have to start buying other nations currencies to do business. Then no amount of printing will help us. We have an illegal private bank cartel, The Fed, that gives out money to foreign banks while spitting in our faces.

We have an administration that exploits an oil spill crisis to shut down a good portion of our oil drilling capacity all in the name of safety, while at the same time giving billions to Brazil to help them in their drilling industry. Then to rub the proverbial S*** in our faces this admin says we are going to buy the very oil from the very people we just gave billions to.

Now with our aligning with the Muslim nations of the world we are showing our true evil colors and are on in an inevitable showdown with Israel. God will not stand for any of this for long, we have squandered what our forefathers bled for. They should look at us all in shame as the ulitmate lust and greed for individual power at any cost has run roughshod over everything and left our once great nation in shambles.

Every empire/nation through out history has always eaten itself alive from within and then fallen. Why do we think that America would be any different?? I am not one of those doom criers standing at the corner, but in all seriousness what can anyone do at this point in time to stop this spiral to oblivion?


142 posted on 04/05/2011 5:02:07 AM PDT by eak3
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To: Southack

fully agree! the Dem’s look ridiculous right now, especially as Ryan’s longer term plan is introduced.. let them stew another week!


143 posted on 04/05/2011 5:06:03 AM PDT by GotMojo
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To: hatfieldmccoy
“We’re serious about trying to prevent a government shutdown. We’re also serious about cutting spending"

That's kind of like saying "We're serious about trying to prevent plugging this hole in the boat. We're also serious about preventing the boat from sinking."

144 posted on 04/05/2011 5:19:04 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

I got one of those surveys last Presidential election cycle. I wrote in capital letters in black sharpie - I WILL DONATE WHEN YOU GIVE CANDIDATES I CAN VOTE FOR. NO RINOS!!!! and sent it back. Have not received one since.


145 posted on 04/05/2011 5:33:34 AM PDT by Calm_Cool_and_Elected ("The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it." --Flannery O'Connor)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Agree. The cr’s are producing real spending cuts, even through they are smaller than what we would like to see overall.

What the medai keeps failing to report...and the Republicans don’t seem to scream for the rooftops enough is that the Democrats were absolutely derelict in their duty and failed to even pass a budget last year. Too busy jamming Obiecare down our throats to do their job.


146 posted on 04/05/2011 5:44:30 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: Siena Dreaming

the last time a republican congress shut down the govt was followed by a second term of slick william...


147 posted on 04/05/2011 5:50:22 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: PAR35

Paid vacation my ass. We’ve been told by upper management we will be sent home without pay, and that we will NOT be paid retro-actively for time missed. If you’re going to go after an easy target, and least load your ammo right.


148 posted on 04/05/2011 5:56:13 AM PDT by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: Siena Dreaming

for one it would save adding 900 billion to the national debt. This would curb inflation and protect the dollar. Two a six month shutdown would create jobs...the government not destroying the economy would allow the economy to breathe...three it would teach the people that we do not need government at these levels...


149 posted on 04/05/2011 5:58:42 AM PDT by Gipper08 (www.travishankins.com...a real CONSERVATIVE)
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To: hatfieldmccoy; All

I sometimes wonder what some Freepers are thinking.

Because the man doesn’t want to shut down the government he is a wuss?

The last time we let the government shut down, we got Clinton again.

No way in heck should we try that again. They still are demanding steep cuts.


150 posted on 04/05/2011 5:59:24 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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