Skip to comments.Boehner to introduce one-week stopgap to stave off shutdown (Pelosi had more of a pair)
Posted on 04/04/2011 8:17:40 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy
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i hope i am wrong. let’s hear your counter point. but i call them as i see them.
I think we are on the same page. I see it as strategic. The left is unglued about Libya, after already being unglued about Iraq & Afghanistan. So, now Boehner is going to force mandatory spending on the DoD, but not the rest of government, to gauge what is really important to the left. I know I am not doing a good job of explaining, but, a couple of Tweets during the game laid it out well, though I cannot remember which ones now.
Why do they not have time to make areal budget?
What is largely misunderstood is that Paul Ryan IS introducing a budget tomorrow...for 2012. And that is this Congress' responsbility.
The Continuing Resolutions are another topic. The reason the GOP Congress is having to pass those to keep the Gov't open THIS YEAR is that the Dems DID NOT pass a 2011 budget.
Too many are deceived into thinking a "government shutdown" means "government shutdown". It means nothing of the sort. It's an empty threat the GOP is forced to take seriously because of their inability to counter Democrat lies.
There’s always an excuse to keep on funding Obamacare. Always.
Boehner is neither dumb nor afraid.
Simply put, he is having to do the business now of what the Dems failed to do last year...thus the Continuing Resolutions.
However, as far as this Congress's responsibilities go...they is about to unveil major cuts in their 2012 budget tomorrow.
Boy it’s really been cool that Boehner staffers have been posting on the thread tonight..
Won't need an excuse when the SC strikes it down.
if that’s all you got. it doesn’t fly. sorry.
i forget, what was the point of the election?
Ha. That’s all you’ve got instead of logic? Pretending I’m a Boehner staffer? What a laugh.
Got any reasons other than knee-jerk?
It’s already been ruled unconstitutional. When a hack judge in WI ruled for spurious reasons—with a massive conflict of interest—against Walker, he stopped implementing his legally passed law. Pelosi broke rules with both the passage and the contents of Obamacare. Then it was ruled unconstitutional.
But the funding and implementation go on.
Haven’t seen Boehner lifting a finger to stop it.
Waiting for the screams from the Democrats tomorrow...
a friendly suggestion. study poker and the art of negotiation.
Like I said...all excuses end when the SC strikes it down.
Right. You still have no logical argument.
Well , it's good to see that you are on top of things.
Yes, it is going to be an interesting few weeks ahead.
You’re an idiot for calling me a Boehner staffer. And a liar.
The damage Obama & Co will have done by then is incalculable.
..........Sir, you leave out an important few words, to wit:...........”many conservatives think that UNDER THE APOCALYPTIC Circumstances we are in it is better to NOT borrow ANY MORE MONEY and apportion out on a priority basis the 2.5 trillion in income the government has”........
This decidely IS NOT “shutting the government down”...the government will go on no matter what..........just on a much reduced basis.
you are just repeating the favorite Dimocratic talking point when you even use the words “shut the Gov’t. down”.............thats a DIM/MSM co-operative scare tactic and you are, for the most part, on the wrong forum to be repeating Dim talking points and scare tactics.............
Basically, most of us are not smoking anything and never have. We’re just tired of the damn government destroying our kids and grandkids future by borrowing trillions and printing worthless trillions while using the scare tactic of “shut the gov’t down”..............!!!!! The feds should be permanently enjoined by Constitutional edict from borrowing money without a super majority in both houses.
What’s your point?
Hmmm, a little sensitive here.. so when did you stop beating your wife?
Because it advances our (the right's) interests even if it doesn't advance us politically.
Do you know why the left always wins? Because they think long term. They always move the debate in their direction. They demand a mile, we give them a yard. Before the ink is dry on the compromise, they start demanding two miles.
They are the Borg. They never quit pushing. And until we adopt their tactics of demanding the ultra- radical and settling for the radical, we'll continue to lose as we have for 100 years.
You want to be a winner, do what the winners do.
Unfortunately, they are not serious about governing...
Boner... Obama is going to kick your *ss every which way from Sunday. He is vastly smarter and vastly more political that you'll ever be. You've been had, sir. Please go a way...
I can be patient like the old bull and young bull at the top of the hill joke.
We need a budget that starts trimming everything. The trend to more and bigger deficits needs to be reversed quickly. If it takes another week or so to do that with respect for our obligations, so be it.
But what I am getting pxssed about is me (the little guy) paying more in taxes than these multi-natl corporations and banks that we bailed out, and who are now making billions in profits. As a small business guy semi-retired I’m tired of being a sap to those corps. who are as much in bed with the commies in China as our country. As a businessman I can tell you that deficits come at ya from both ways.
Funny! I always thought the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES controlled the purse strings of government...
Your words, not Boehners...
1. america as we know it is dead. were in the 2nd great depression by all metrics. the tea party and conservatives decide to roll the dice one more time. we all work not stop for two years.
2. the result. you win an election (despite the efforts by the repubican party) by the biggest margin since the 30s (the last great depression under rosevelt).
3. you go into the lame duck showing a powerful hand of cards. the only thing obama can do is play your personality. you fold. he wins.
4. you appoint the good old boys (upton, rogers, etc). you ignore the tea party and conservative wing. in fact, you dis them. obama sees it’s game on as usual.
5. your first three months. you anti. you pass. you pass. you fold.
poker is mathematical (you calculate the odds if your able. i being a math major, calculate the odds). but far more important is to study your opponent(s) at the table. that’s what wins.
You have defined the evolution of a new political party depending on how long the Constitution holds out.
Question: are you purposely advocating policies that ensure our national destruction or are you simply clueless/unaware as to what you're promoting?
In the end, it really doesn't matter. Math, and the inexorable toll of reality, namely the 2nd law, provides a clear path of the future for anyone who cares to look.
I like this on two counts. First, it funds the military for the rest of the year. It is absurd to drag the military funding through this process. We should have passed the defense appropriation a long time ago — if we wanted to cut it, I’m sure the democrats would have gone along.
Second, it’s got more spending cuts, so it’s not like we are going back to the higher spending.
Once the military has secured funding, we will be safer with a shutdown.
If they do shut the government down, Vacationer-in-Chief will just think that means he can take another vacation until it re-opens.
Yep! Old bonerhead really needs leverage.
It's tough, at his age, to get off his knees, slam his butt-cheeks shut, and stop crying after meeting the marxists face-to-face!
We're facing the greatest existential crisis since 1776, (surpassing even 1861), and we've got people ostensibly representing citizens who either (a) don't get it; or (b) more than get it.
More & more, I'm tending towards 'b'. Is Boner trying to tell us something, like wink, wink, nudge, nudge? How else can one explain such actions?
THe democrats want us to shoot our own troops in the back over a partial-year budget that in any normal time would have already been in the books before we got here. It’s ALMOST LIKE they purposely failed to pass a budget, just so they could get us sniping at each other.
What other excuse could there be for them NOT to pass a full-year budget in the lame-duck session? It would have been easy to do, they had their filibuster-proof majority in the senate, and it’s not like those who lost the election were worried about losing a second time.
No, I think they left it so they could do exactly what they are doing now, trying to divide and conquer, to get the tea party to turn against the republicans, and vice versa, and maybe to blame the TP for a shutdown (which if we have attacked the republican leadership enough, they might well decide is their best option).
Yeah...they sure did halt those Bush tax cuts now didn't they...
Oh, and they sure got us out of Iraq and Afganistan like they wanted didn't they...
Oh, and wow...did you see all those seats they won in Congress last election....
And I hear Guantanamo's closed... Yup...they ALWAYS win.
Southack's right...you ARE an idiot.
I don’t want the military to get caught in the crossfire of the budget shutdown. So I’d like them to solve that problem, and it sounds like Boehner has a plan to do that with this 1-week CR.
We are supposedly winning the discussion. The longer this drags on, with the republicans doing things like this to keep government going, and the democrats screaming “shutdown” and complaining and offering nothing, the stronger our position gets.
That is, so long as the tea party doesn’t abandon the fight to “prove a point”.
yes. i understand. how can he be such a fool? (i.e., self mislead). the alternative is he’s just very, very afraid he’ll do something wrong (again “fear is the mind killer”).
what we all know is that if you do something that turns out to be wrong (after your best preparation). the seeds are most often there to rise again. but if you do nothing. if you take no risk. you must lose (i.e., stagnate in the status quo which i think we agree is a “dead” america).
he past a bill that cut it, but the senate rejected it. Boehner can’t make the senate vote for something.
Not ALMOST...that's EXACTLY why they didn't pass it.
So those unaware of what's going on would attack the GOP leadership just as they do on FR.
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