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Amid Ethics Debate, Conjoined Twins Celebrate First Birthday
AOL News ^ | April 2, 2011 | Lisa Holewa

Posted on 04/05/2011 1:35:13 AM PDT by Pinkbell

Twin brothers Kameron and Kaydon Hayes celebrated their first birthday this week. They both love the character Elmo on "Sesame Street." They smile. Sometimes Kaydon babbles, trying to talk. Holding hands, they kick happily when they play and often poke each other in the face.

Born at 37 weeks weighing a combined total of 10 pounds, the boys -- who weren't expected to live -- share more than a special bond; they share a liver and a malformed heart.

Their birth and subsequent medical care touched off debate among doctors and medical ethics experts who said the conjoined twins are destined to die.

But their mother, Brianna Manns, pushed onward, refusing to sign a "Do not resuscitate" order in the boys' early months. She now is focused on their everyday growth.

"Kaydon, he's very laid back. He'll sleep all day if you let him. Kameron is very curious, social as well. He has a temper -- knows what he likes and what he doesn't like," Manns told WGN-TV in Chicago, before the twins celebrated their first birthday Thursday.

"Even though they are conjoined, they are two separate babies to me," Manns told the Chicago Tribune for a story published today. "They are very different in every type of way."

Medical experts said the twins can't be separated and aren't candidates for a heart transplant because of their complicated anatomy.

Last summer, doctors at the University of Illinois Medical Center at Chicago -- where the twins still are hospitalized -- described the emotional toll of caring for them. They worry that their interventions went too far, expressing concern that the infants are the ones who would suffer.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: briannamanns; healthcare; moralabsolutes; prolife; twins
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At the time, the twins were unable to breathe without a ventilator and were fed through tubes. The babies periodically went into distress and had to be resuscitated to prevent them from dying.

Today, doctors told the newspaper, Kameron breathes without assistance and Kaydon, who is doing most of the breathing for the two, is being weaned off the ventilator. They no longer experience the medical crises that require resuscitation.

To see a video of these two babies, check the link.

Needless to say, the comments to this article are not positive. Because these babies are on Medicaid and the cost is high ($4 million), because some claim they are suffering, because they are said not to be able to make a positive contribution, and because they will die at some point in the future, many people believe treatment should be ceased, or at least they should not be resucitated. One commenter says that the value of a human life comes from the ability of said life to contribute to society.

I believe the value of a human life is innate because human beings are made in the image and likeness of God. I know the cost is high, but what price do we put on a human life? These babies are able to interact with their mother and play with toys. If we as a society decide to take the decisions away from the families and patients, couldn't this apply to other situations? If the cost is high and the majority determine a person unworthy of life, can treatment be ceased against the families' wishes? I know the state is paying for it, and I think that is a problem if government healthcare is implemented.

1 posted on 04/05/2011 1:35:19 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah

Ping!


2 posted on 04/05/2011 1:36:40 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

The leftists are capable of a level of evil unlike anything the world has ever seen.


3 posted on 04/05/2011 4:01:48 AM PDT by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: Pinkbell

Interesting to read that the doctors are whining about the emotional toll on themselves.

But then, it is Chicago.


4 posted on 04/05/2011 4:42:46 AM PDT by Carley (UNION AGITATORS, NO DIFFERENT THAN THE ARAB STREET. UGLY AND VIOLENT)
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To: Pinkbell; 185JHP; 230FMJ; AKA Elena; Albion Wilde; Aleighanne; Alexander Rubin; Amos the Prophet; ..
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5 posted on 04/05/2011 5:28:40 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Pinkbell
Because these babies are on Medicaid and the cost is high ($4 million)

Thieves.

6 posted on 04/05/2011 5:54:05 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama will be president until Fri, Jan 20, 2017.)
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To: Carley
Interesting to read that the doctors are whining about the emotional toll on themselves.

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It's possible that they were asked by an interviewer if they were affected by the plight of these children and confessed that they were. Unless we see the transcript, we'll never know.

7 posted on 04/05/2011 5:57:08 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Pinkbell

I would not kill my babies and I would not kill one that the other might live. But I am an old man and what do I know?


8 posted on 04/05/2011 5:57:22 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: newzjunkey

Thanks for sharing your concern.


9 posted on 04/05/2011 5:58:24 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Pinkbell
One commenter says that the value of a human life comes from the ability of said life to contribute to society.

So, would they apply the same standard to the millions on generational welfare?

10 posted on 04/05/2011 6:12:43 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Hey D. C., tax increases are not spending cuts. Nor do tax cuts constitute increased spending.)
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To: Pinkbell; All
I know the cost is high, but what price do we put on a human life?

False choice. A charity should pick up the tab. That $4 million in tax dollars can be more efficiently used to provide services to numerous people in need.

The entitlement attitude exemplified by the mother is why many able and productive people are priced out of basic health care.

These black hole cases a study in immoral wolves in "moral" sheep's clothing.

11 posted on 04/05/2011 6:20:10 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama will be president until Fri, Jan 20, 2017.)
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To: Pinkbell

There is no mention of a father in this article.


12 posted on 04/05/2011 6:29:50 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: newzjunkey; Pinkbell; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
Thieves.

Let me guess, you can't wait for Zero's death panels to get into full swing.

It's shocking that all of you libertarians claim to oppose Obama, you SUPPORT nearly all of his policies.

13 posted on 04/05/2011 8:22:05 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wintertime

I believe that there is a “boyfriend”. These poor children.


14 posted on 04/05/2011 8:36:38 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: newzjunkey

It’s really heartening to see such a humanitarian in our midst.


15 posted on 04/05/2011 8:40:06 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: newzjunkey
4,000,000 dollars is what this person
suffering from hereditary defects costs
the community during his lifetime.
Fellow Americans, that is your money,
too. Read "Utilitarian dot Net" the
online magazine of Peter Singer's
version of bioethics.
16 posted on 04/05/2011 8:41:01 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

“Bioethicists” = “Death mongers”.


17 posted on 04/05/2011 8:51:18 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: BykrBayb; trisham
Let's say these twins only cost the taxpayers $50, under the pro-death panel approach that's still thievery and they should be put to death.
18 posted on 04/05/2011 8:59:25 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; BykrBayb

You’re right.


19 posted on 04/05/2011 9:08:17 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: tnlibertarian

No, because those are democrat voters.
It is unlikely these babies will ever vote so they don’t count.


20 posted on 04/05/2011 9:11:12 AM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: newzjunkey

Did you read the link I sent you? Here it is again. http://www.utilitarian.net/singer .

There’s an article linked to from that site which I believe you will be especially inspired by. “Treating (or Not) the Tiniest Babies’ By Peter Singer. http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&page=singer_27_4 .

Oh, check out that URL. http://www.secularhumanism.org looks like a thrilling site for folks like you. Enjoy.


21 posted on 04/05/2011 9:13:12 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: trisham; wagglebee

You’re both right.


22 posted on 04/05/2011 9:14:01 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Pinkbell

“One commenter says that the value of a human life comes from the ability of said life to contribute to society.”

This comment breaks my heart. In the twisted, evil thinking of our government these poor babies are not worth the money, but they don’t even blink about the millions given to planned parenthood. Makes me sick.

This way of thinking encompasses more than premature or ultimately fatal situations. The handicapped, elderly, disabled, etc. are in big trouble.


23 posted on 04/05/2011 11:43:33 PM PDT by Guardian Sebastian (All I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11.)
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To: BykrBayb; wagglebee

Check out what happened to this poster on another thread last night:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2699971/posts?page=60#60

He had a few words to say about “the religious right” and abortion. The response from this site’s owner is below:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2699971/posts?page=117#117


24 posted on 04/06/2011 5:31:36 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
Typical troll.
25 posted on 04/06/2011 6:17:36 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: trisham

I love it! I always enjoy watching Jim zot the riffraff. They’re a cancer.


26 posted on 04/06/2011 6:41:05 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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