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Federal Workers in Shutdown Limbo
Money ^ | April 4, 2011 | Charles Riley

Posted on 04/05/2011 6:09:15 AM PDT by Poundstone

With just five days left before a government shutdown, federal workers are pressing lawmakers to cut a deal that will keep the government open for business.

The stakes are high. If lawmakers fail to pass some kind of spending bill by the end of Friday, hundreds of thousands of government employees are likely to be furloughed, and their paychecks stopped.

The National Treasury Employees Union and the National Federation of Federal Employees, which represent a combined 260,000 workers, announced Monday they have asked their members to call lawmakers and encourage them to strike a deal.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: employees; federal; government; shutdown

1 posted on 04/05/2011 6:09:17 AM PDT by Poundstone
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To: Poundstone

Having experienced the shutdown in 1995-96, I sympathize with my fellow Federal FReepers. It’s an anxious time. I can only note that in the last shutdown, we federal employees all received our back pay and benefits that were due to us, and I’d expect the same thing will happen this time if there’s a shutdown.


2 posted on 04/05/2011 6:10:52 AM PDT by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: Poundstone

Looking forward to the shutdown.. .In Belgium, the citizens are overjoyed not to have a central government, going on a year there.............


3 posted on 04/05/2011 6:11:33 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

That’s Belgium. We definitely don’t need a shutdown here!


4 posted on 04/05/2011 6:12:01 AM PDT by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: Poundstone

Don’t they (and didn’t they) get paid for even the time it was shut down last time? Just after the end of the shutdown.

Then I am hoping they never reopen.


5 posted on 04/05/2011 6:12:19 AM PDT by Quick Shot
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To: Poundstone

How will we know if there’s a government shutdown?

Ahem.

-Rex


6 posted on 04/05/2011 6:13:25 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: Poundstone

Fed employees, yes, but contractors won’t get paid.


7 posted on 04/05/2011 6:14:50 AM PDT by whatexit
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To: Poundstone

Cry me a %^*(&in’ river.


8 posted on 04/05/2011 6:16:30 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: Poundstone
I can only note that in the last shutdown, we federal employees all received our back pay and benefits that were due to us

Did you work for it?

9 posted on 04/05/2011 6:17:13 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: whatexit

That’s true, whatexit, if the shutdown lasts very long. If it’s a short one, many consulting firms pay the employees even if the government won’t.


10 posted on 04/05/2011 6:18:11 AM PDT by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: Poundstone
It’s an anxious time. I can only note that in the last shutdown, we federal employees all received our back pay and benefits that were due to us,

If back pay and benefits were received for the 'down time', why the anxiety? It's a paid vacation which I'll bet wasn't charged against regular vacation time.

11 posted on 04/05/2011 6:18:25 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: Poundstone

See all the files in the picture?
That is the Freeper section & it grows by the minute.


12 posted on 04/05/2011 6:18:41 AM PDT by certrtwngnut
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To: Poundstone

From the article:

“The National Treasury Employees Union and the National Federation of Federal Employees, which represent a combined 260,000 workers, announced Monday they have asked their members to call lawmakers and encourage them to strike a deal.”

Once again UNION for taxpayer paid employees.

Of course the article is hateful. Government employees are making $74,000. Also they are “white”. What is this? Complete and utter BS.


13 posted on 04/05/2011 6:19:20 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Poundstone

The Republicans should beat the rush and proudly take credit for the shutdown before the media blames them for it.


14 posted on 04/05/2011 6:22:53 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Poundstone

The government can’t protect us from invasion at our southern border. The government didn’t protect us from foreign attacks on the Trade Center in 1993 or 2001. Defense is the one responsibility given to the federal government and they have failed miserably. We would be much better off spending our tax money locally, rather than sending it to the useless, wasteful D.C. government.


15 posted on 04/05/2011 6:22:54 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Poundstone

A shutdown is a shut down. Everywhere but the government - no work, no pay.


16 posted on 04/05/2011 6:23:52 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: yldstrk

Frankly, the “shutdown” would impact conservative sacred cows more than liberals. Lib pockets would still go on, but we’d lose things like veterans benefits along with revenue generators like monuments.

And it wouldn’t save any money—it would just provide free paid vacations for many.

True reform is needed, whether or not the “shutdown” occurs.


17 posted on 04/05/2011 6:24:04 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Poundstone
Having experienced the shutdown in 1995-96, I sympathize with my fellow Federal FReepers. It’s an anxious time. I can only note that in the last shutdown, we federal employees all received our back pay and benefits that were due to us, and I’d expect the same thing will happen this time if there’s a shutdown.

Even more dangerous for people like you would be that the taxpayers might realize they have very little need for a federal government.

18 posted on 04/05/2011 6:24:57 AM PDT by thesharkboy (<-- looking for the silver lining)
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To: Poundstone

With the prolonged shutdowns following 9/11, at least some stopped all administrative leave.


19 posted on 04/05/2011 6:26:24 AM PDT by whatexit
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To: Poundstone

Playin small violin. When I get a client backing out on a job, I don’t get a cancellation fee, even if I’ve spent time to bid on the project. I just go on to the next bid & hope I get it.

PS my biz is down 62% & I gotta still pay my own healthcare & SS; so nope don’t feel any sympathy in regards to persons with loads of gov’t perks & bennies.


20 posted on 04/05/2011 6:31:12 AM PDT by vidbizz
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To: Poundstone

You have got to be kidding or smoking something. Medicinal pot perhaps.

There is nothing we need more than a government shutdown.


21 posted on 04/05/2011 6:33:31 AM PDT by Carley (UNION AGITATORS, NO DIFFERENT THAN THE ARAB STREET. UGLY AND VIOLENT)
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To: RexBeach

“How will we know if there’s a government shutdown?”

The sun won’t rise. The earth will stop turning on its axis. And people will never fall in love again.


22 posted on 04/05/2011 6:34:17 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Poundstone

The National Treasury Employees Union and the National Federation of Federal Employees,

This is part of the problem.


23 posted on 04/05/2011 6:35:26 AM PDT by chainsaw
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To: kittymyrib

“We would be much better off spending our tax money locally, rather than sending it to the useless, wasteful D.C. government.”

DC is corrput and incompetent. Shut it down.


24 posted on 04/05/2011 6:36:00 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Amen


25 posted on 04/05/2011 6:42:06 AM PDT by lone star annie
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To: Poundstone
It’s an anxious time. I can only note that in the last shutdown, we federal employees all received our back pay and benefits that were due to us,

In the private sector that uncertainty is a constant. If the product doesn't sell or the service isn't wanted we are out of a job.

If we asked for a paycheck anyway because it was "due" us we'd be either laughed at or escorted off the premises.

26 posted on 04/05/2011 6:43:43 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane; Poundstone
It’s an anxious time.

I'm sure it is! I mean, not knowing if you are going to get a paid vacation or not.

I truly believe that government union workers live in an alternate time-space continuum from the rest of us.
27 posted on 04/05/2011 6:52:41 AM PDT by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: ladyjane

Exactly. Welcome to the real world, Mr. Federal Employee. There’s no law saying that you have to live in conditions that the rest of us can’t afford. At least not yet.


28 posted on 04/05/2011 6:56:56 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak-Adams)
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To: vidbizz

Same here, bud. Have my own biz in the film industry and I go full throttle everyday knowing my current contracts may be my last. I would like to note that I hate unions.


29 posted on 04/05/2011 7:05:49 AM PDT by max americana ( NF)
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To: TSgt

Just so I am clear with this, we are looking to shutdown the government based on “Last Year’s” budget with which money was already spent?

We are already on the 2012 budget. Cut whatever you can out of this one, both sides claim victory then everything that they tried to cut this year but couldn’t just add to the 2012 cuts.

Remember, Obama is going to have to run for office on a Republican proposed 10 year, 4 trillion dollar cut. He can’t, the left will go nuts. There is no way the Senate or Obama can spin 2011 numbers for the election.

Save the shutdown for next year. Get as close to 61 billion as you can and go from there.


30 posted on 04/05/2011 7:05:57 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (HaveTs you terrorized a terrorist today?)
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To: Poundstone

Just like the auto workers. In the past, the UAW workers that I knew loved to have plant shut downs. They still got paid and were able to take long vacation trips. If the govt. shuts down for two or three weeks, no problem. It’s just a paid vacation.


31 posted on 04/05/2011 7:06:29 AM PDT by CobraJet
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To: RexBeach
How will we know if there’s a government shutdown?

Less traffic in certain metro areas at rush hour?

32 posted on 04/05/2011 7:12:14 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmit in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: CobraJet

The 1995 “shutdown’ was all kabuki theatre. Every federal employee who participated was given extra paid vacation leave. The only problem was a shortage of parking at Pentagon City Mall (a shopping center).


33 posted on 04/05/2011 7:14:40 AM PDT by Kanzan
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To: Poundstone

Lets roll!....shut her down!


34 posted on 04/05/2011 7:30:57 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Poundstone
Sir, in the private sector we call this life.

Only the times where I have been furloughed, I didn't get back pay.

And here is another thing. It is only “non critical” employees that will be sent home right? So how long will that non critical job exist? Something that my company deals with on a weekly basis.

35 posted on 04/05/2011 7:31:30 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

How will we know if there’s a government shutdown?....

You won’t, except for all the whining and crying on government run media.


36 posted on 04/05/2011 7:32:27 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: redgolum

The longer the shutdown goes on and if Americans ignore Obama and the media you will see no change because by law Obozo cannot shut down essential services. What he can do is illiminate all those $100,000 dollar a year jobs he created since plopping his butt in the White House.


37 posted on 04/05/2011 7:35:43 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: IYAS9YAS

I think the sooner the government shuts down, the safer America will be.

-Rex


38 posted on 04/05/2011 7:36:08 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: Poundstone

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Au contraire. Why do you deserve a steady paycheck while private citizens don’t? I never know whether my clients will pay or not. Perhaps ed workers need a little reality check, unless we all should be on the Federal dole?


39 posted on 04/05/2011 7:38:47 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Oh yes, the media will play the violins nonstop if this happens, and blame the Republicans. It will be sickening. But, I don’t plan to listen to their cry me a river song.


40 posted on 04/05/2011 7:47:19 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: Poundstone

There’s a lot of scuttlebutt that the feds won’t get paid this time around. Too many people in the private sector have lost their jobs. Too many State and local government employees have gotten furloughs. A paid vacation for the feds would not look good. That would explain why the unions are weighing in for an agreement instead of lining up to cheer on the dems.


41 posted on 04/05/2011 7:59:36 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Poundstone
Those employees that are EE will still have to work and not get a free vacation.
42 posted on 04/05/2011 8:13:11 AM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: Poundstone
Do the Limbo shutdown!.....
43 posted on 04/05/2011 8:23:32 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Poundstone
Since the 'Shutdown' would be for 'non-essential' government employees, I have taken a look at the Obama Czarocracy and I have a few suggestions...

(1) California Water Czar – Given that the Sierra snowpack is at close to record highs - Permanent Dismissal.

(2) Government Performance Czar - self-evident?

(3) Guantanamo Closure Czar - read the news recently?

I could go on but why waste our time, Obama will grow government because that is all he knows and is comfortable with. The rest of us peons will have our wealth distributed!

To the chant of "Drill, baby, drill" add my plaintive refrain of "SHUT IT DOWN ALREADY!"

44 posted on 04/05/2011 8:30:11 AM PDT by SES1066 (Michael Moore - a pernicious progluddite of socialism!)
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