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Family of injured Giants fan asks for civility - (LA Dodger game beating)
LA Times ^ | April 5, 2011 | Richard Winton

Posted on 04/05/2011 2:55:54 PM PDT by Beaten Valve

The family of Giants fan Bryan Stow issued a call for civility among rival sports fans and asked people to help catch the two suspects.

At a news conference Tuesday outside County-USC Medical Center, where Stow remains in a coma due to a brain injury he sustained during a beating at the Dodger Stadium parking lot on opening day, the family thanked the public for their support and prayers. Stow is a father of two and a paramedic who made a road trip from Santa Cruz to attend the game.

Stow's doctors also updated his condition, noting that even without sedation, he would be in a coma. They described his injuries as a severely fractured skull, which led to damage to both frontal lobes. Doctors removed the left side of his skull to allow his swollen brain to decompress.

"It's going to be a long recovery process," said Dr. Gabriel Zada, a neurologist who is treating Stow.

Bryan Stow's sister, Erin Collins, also thanked the people of Los Angeles for their support. "We know they weren't true Dodger fans," she said of the suspects.

Detectives also said they believe at least 100 people may have witnessed the attack. They and family members asked witnesses to come forward. Det. Jose Carrillo said he believes the two suspects may have assaulted three or four young men before beating Stow. The beating occurred in Parking Lot 2 at Dodger Stadium on Thursday night about 8:30 p.m. after the season opener while Stow was walking toward the taxi area.

The Los Angeles City Council voted Tuesday to offer a $50,000 reward for tips leading to the arrest of the suspects. The total reward is now $100,000.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baseball; dodgers; giants; losangeles; violence
As unfortunate as this situation is, I don't expect too any "snitches" to come forward...
1 posted on 04/05/2011 2:56:01 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: Beaten Valve

The civility train has left the station. Next stop, marxism.


2 posted on 04/05/2011 2:59:23 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Beaten Valve

We can only hope and pray someone comes forward.

Animals.


3 posted on 04/05/2011 3:00:48 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Beaten Valve

“We know they weren’t true Dodger fans,”

Raider fans?


4 posted on 04/05/2011 3:02:52 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: Beaten Valve

Very restrained of them; personally, I’d be asking that they be strung up by their n*ts. For a start.


5 posted on 04/05/2011 3:04:42 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: gorush

You are correct, I was in LA last week, it has moved into the lowest, most hopeless city I have ever seen, outside of places like Detroit and Oakland.

Downtown is a third-world country and so is 80% of the Valley.

Dodger Stadium is off the 110 Freeway north of downtown and probably has 50% illegal aliens and most young men are in gangs. It’s an absolute no-go zone.

In Pasadena last year at the Rose Bowl someone got stabbed by another person just here to work.

The Liberals brought this into the US with a lot of complicit Graham/McCain types, it is killing CA and the nation.


6 posted on 04/05/2011 3:07:33 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: gorush

Rodney King’s plea has fallen on deaf ears


7 posted on 04/05/2011 3:12:25 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Beaten Valve

Sad situation, praying for him and his family.

I don’t mean for my following comments to be a smear against all Dodger fans, there are just a few rotten eggs who are spoiling it for many, the Dodger organization included.

As a fan of a rival team that has beaten the Dodgers in the playoffs the past few years, I won’t ever attend a Dodger game at Chavez Ravine. Coming on the heels of the events of the past few years. A couple of years ago, a guy was stabbed and now this.

It’s unfortunate because I attended a few games in the mid to late ‘90s and the atmosphere was much different than now. Friendly ribbing and chatting about baseball, then.

Not saying this is reserved solely for the Dodgers, there are problems in stadiums across the country. And until the teams get serious about it and do something, count me out.

I won’t endanger mine or my family’s life because some thug who has no comprehension of civililty may do the same to one or all of us.


8 posted on 04/05/2011 3:12:56 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: Beaten Valve

If I managed any sort of public venue, be it Dodger Stadium or a corner market, I’d install inexpensive surveillance cameras — some conspicuously visible, some not — all over the place, sending images cheaply to a remote server. This once would have been prohibitively expensive, but these days it’s cheap ... cheaper than higher liability insurance. (Of course, if your venue IS big and lucrative, you’d spring for slightly better cameras, etc.)

I’m thinking of this because, Just Damn, wouldn’t it be great to have some nice pictures of these two animals at Dodger Stadium? And of their getaway car, with a good image of its license plate?

Prayers for the poor victim of this senseless attack.


9 posted on 04/05/2011 3:16:03 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Beaten Valve

This is bad, and reminds me of the white truck driver beaten by black thugs during the post-Rodney King riots, who suffered permanent brain damage. Finally, some brave citizens stepped in to help him.

In this case, the witnesses did not step in and are not even speaking out afterward. Does this mean they support the Giants fans being beaten? Or anyone who fits a Giants fan “profile?”

Believe me, the racial aspects of this will NOT be discussed publicly in this city.


10 posted on 04/05/2011 3:24:38 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: La Enchiladita

You may be right about the racial aspects, but consider that “southern” (California) Latino gang members, “Surenos,” profess PARTICULAR hatred for Northern California Latino gangsters, “Nortenos.” My point is that a Latino Giants fan might have been beaten even more quickly or severely. (Unimaginable ...)


11 posted on 04/05/2011 3:27:08 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Beaten Valve
It's kind of unusual to see this kind of sh!t at a sporting event these days. One of the underlying factors behind the high ticket prices in many professional sports is a desire on the part of these teams to keep animals like this away from respectable fans.

My guess is that the Los Angeles Dodgers have a stronger interest than anyone else in getting this resolved quickly. As someone who has lived in the New York City area for most of my life and grew up as a fan of the Yankees, I can tell you that one or two incidents like this can depress attendance for decades.

12 posted on 04/05/2011 3:34:21 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: pogo101

Mr. Stow, in fact, has dark hair and a ruddy complexion from pics I saw. Maybe they thought he was a cholo too? But, I don’t think we need to get too complex about this. The homies went to Chavez Ravine looking for some “action.”


13 posted on 04/05/2011 3:38:13 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: Alberta's Child
One of the underlying factors behind the high ticket prices in many professional sports is a desire on the part of these teams to keep animals like this away from respectable fans.

Which pretty much explains why soccer hooliganism is virtually non-existent today in the English Premier League, it's in the lower divisions, with cheaper tickets where it continues to be somewhat of a problem.

14 posted on 04/05/2011 3:38:34 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: La Enchiladita

I wonder what happened to all the cell phone cameras that seem to pop up whenever something meaningless happens and it is worldwide in minutes.


15 posted on 04/05/2011 3:45:24 PM PDT by biff
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To: Beaten Valve

Not saying he deserved to be injured but I find it hard to believe they just singled him out for no reason at all, above all other fans. I would doubt he wasn’t a willing participant in some form and escalating the situation.

Otherwise we’d be seeing this occurring all the time to people that aren’t drunk or getting verbal and obnoxious with fans of other teams. generally this doesn’t happen to people that aren’t getting ‘into it’ with other people.


16 posted on 04/05/2011 3:48:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Those are valid points, but if you do a Google search on phrases like "Philadelphia fans," "scumbags," etc., you'll find a number of stories of people who were abused at sporting events in Philadelphia for no good reason at all.

This guy takes the cake for the lowest piece of sh!t in the food chain, as far as I'm concerned:

Major League Jerk Charged with Intentionally Vomiting on 11-yr.-old Phillies Fan

17 posted on 04/05/2011 4:11:39 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Beaten Valve

The act was totally sick, but there is a moral to this incident: Do NOT wear Giants apparel to Dodger Stadium.


18 posted on 04/05/2011 4:16:03 PM PDT by getarope (Paddle faster, I hear banjo music!)
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To: Beaten Valve
Dodger games to definately avoid:

Half-price food and drink, including alcoholic beverages, will also be offered on May 4, June 15, June 22, August 10 and August 31. The Dodgers will wear the throwback uniforms in each of those games.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20110204&content_id=16572200&vkey=pr_la&fext=.jsp&c_id=la

19 posted on 04/05/2011 5:07:17 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: Alberta's Child

I wasn’t aware that this was actually a specific thing going on in Philadelphia. Thanks for pointing that out.


20 posted on 04/05/2011 5:19:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: SZonian

I have been a Dodger fan for my entire life. But if the Dodgers don’t step up and offer to help Stowe out with his medical bills, and figure out someway to make it less risky to attend a game in Chavez Ravine, I will not be a Dodger fan anymore.


21 posted on 04/05/2011 5:22:53 PM PDT by GSWarrior (To activate this tagline, please contact the board administrator.)
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To: Beaten Valve
The family of Giants fan Bryan Stow issued a call for civility
Yup, that's the Santa Cruz mentality alright...Probably had something to do with why he got beat-up.
22 posted on 04/05/2011 5:30:44 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: Alberta's Child

I dare say vomiting on someone is a hell of alot different than say; stabbing someone [http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/04/man-stabbed-after-dodger-stadium-home-opener.html] or beating the hell out of a fan from an opposing team.

It goes on at almost every venue, I don’t believe any team or sport is exempt.


23 posted on 04/05/2011 6:00:44 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: SZonian
True, but I've been to sporting events at a number of venues around the nation and I can definitely say that there are some places a heck of a lot worse than others.

I can tell you stories about incidents at New York Jets games that are unbelievable. I was interested in them as a Giants fan because the New Jersey Sports & Exposition Authority -- the owner of Giants Stadium in the Meadowlands where both teams play -- would impose restrictions on fans of both teams in response to the nonsense that was pretty commonplace at Jets games back in the 1980s.

One particularly troubling game was a Monday night game back in the late 1980s when the Buffalo Bills were one of the worst teams in the NFL but somehow managed to win a late-season game to knock the Jets out of the playoffs. People watching the nationally televised game were treated to the spectacle of seeing fans in the stands lighting garbage, clothing and souveniers on fire during the fourth quarter. The NFL actually threatened to impose a long-term ban on Monday night home games for the Jets over that one.

Without question, the most civilized fans I've ever met were in Minnesota. It must be something in the water, or maybe it's that culture of civility that the Upper Midwest is known for (I've heard the same thing about Green Bay fans). The Metrodome was one of the first major sports venues in the U.S. to enact a smoking ban (about 20 years ago). At first they were hesitant to do this because they feared even a small bit of controversy, but it turned out that the smoking ban was pretty pointless because nobody was smoking at Vikings or Twins games anyway. LOL.

24 posted on 04/05/2011 6:18:49 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Back in 1985 when the Blue Jays first made the playoffs they played Kansas City. Fans were wondering what kind of reception they would get but the general consensus was KC was very civilized as far MLB parks went. Not sure about now but that was the lowdown 26 years ago.


25 posted on 04/05/2011 7:22:34 PM PDT by xp38
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To: GSWarrior

As a Phillie fan, I get to wear the millstone of shame of all the “classy” fans that came well before me. I understand that there are classless jerks no matter where one goes. It’s a damn shame too, people pay good money for an enjoyable time. No one should have to put up with any of the garbage going on.

The Phillies fan puking on an 11 year old is disgusting and there is no excuse for it.

But what’s going on at stadiums around the country and Chavez Ravine in particular are disturbing and go well beyond the pale.

What I found out in looking into this, although 3 years old, it is telling:
http://www.walkoffwalk.com/2008/10/twenty-years-after-kirk-gibson.html


26 posted on 04/05/2011 9:45:35 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Ping to # 26.

I agree, I’ve often considered NASCAR as an option to take my son to vs. any of the ball related sports. I figure a more “conservative” crowd would be more interested in the race, the cars and the girls instead of acting like a$$es.


27 posted on 04/05/2011 9:49:10 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

No, things have been bad at Dodger’s stadium for a long time. A fan of another team was told by a cop he should take his hat off and turn his jacket inside out before he went into the men’s room. If he didn’t, he might not come out alive.

From the comments I read online from a local paper, the stadium is filled with Hispanic gangbangers. It is not safe to go there.


28 posted on 04/05/2011 11:17:11 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: wac3rd
You are correct, I was in LA last week, it has moved into the lowest, most hopeless city I have ever seen, outside of places like Detroit and Oakland.

You need to get out more...Crime in most major cities in the Midwest like St. Louis, make LA look like a church picnic on a spring day..

Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:

St. Louis, MO Los Angeles, CA National
Murder: 37.2 12.4 7
Forcible Rape: 97.15 27.3 32.2
Robbery: 907.2 370 205.8
Aggravated Assault: 1439.1 377.2 336.5
Burglary: 2453.3 524.8 813.2
Larceny Theft: 6802.4 1539.2 2601.7
Vehicle Theft: 2492.2 654.4 501.5

29 posted on 04/05/2011 11:35:56 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Beaten Valve

“As unfortunate as this situation is, I don’t expect too any “snitches” to come forward..”

La Raza sticks together. Anyone who knows the culture knows that the police won’t get any help even though plenty of people know who did it.

Dodger Stadium has essentially been turned into an extension of the California prison system.


30 posted on 04/06/2011 8:46:26 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam, mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: wac3rd

“The Liberals brought this into the US with a lot of complicit Graham/McCain types, it is killing CA and the nation.”

There was plenty of help from Dubya as well.


31 posted on 04/06/2011 8:47:50 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam, mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: Alberta's Child

“My guess is that the Los Angeles Dodgers have a stronger interest than anyone else in getting this resolved quickly.”

Then you don’t know Frank McCourt, Dodger owner. The Dodgers demonstrated no interest in what happened, and even after the bad publicity began to overwhelm the LA airwaves they haven’t done much.


32 posted on 04/06/2011 8:52:46 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam, mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: Pelham

Thus the “Graham/McCain-types” allusion.


33 posted on 04/06/2011 9:12:26 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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