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Live thread: Wisconsin Supreme Court election - Prosser vs Kloppenburg
http://elections.620wtmj.com/G8801.htm ^ | 4/5/11

Posted on 04/05/2011 4:56:48 PM PDT by Jean S

Edited on 04/05/2011 8:26:32 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

This election is important nationally too. If Kloppenburg is elected the Wisconsin mandate by the electorate in 2010 in this state will be negated by the WI Supreme Court and the unions will have won.

I live in a hardcore conservative area and discovered today that my Prosser yardsign was mutilated and thrown into one of my plantings.

Pray for Wisconsin and for Prosser's election!

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: bustunions; kloppenburg; prosser; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
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To: Jean S

Even if the woman wins can’t the legislature just bring it up for a vote again? Or don’t they have the votes now?


51 posted on 04/05/2011 5:32:56 PM PDT by 30Moves
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Thanks! Hopefully, the court will figure this one out before then.

I wish but the chief justice is a lib, she will delay everything until August if Kloppenburg wins.

52 posted on 04/05/2011 5:33:01 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Bushbacker1; All

http://wisconsinvote.org/


53 posted on 04/05/2011 5:33:04 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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Who’s counting the votes? SEIU goons?


54 posted on 04/05/2011 5:34:59 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: bigbob
This election is critical for Wisconsin, as a liberal majority on the Supreme Court (if Prosser loses) would mean big trouble for all of Gov. Walkers reforms

How so? State supreme courts can just go around voiding legislation they don't like? If the law in question even gets there, won't the legislature just repass it ling before any election, recall or otherwise?

55 posted on 04/05/2011 5:35:30 PM PDT by Minn
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To: Salvation

ping to ping for prayers.


56 posted on 04/05/2011 5:36:27 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: bushwon

Polls open until 8 pm central


57 posted on 04/05/2011 5:36:31 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: 30Moves
Even if the woman wins can’t the legislature just bring it up for a vote again? Or don’t they have the votes now?

I think they're more concerned that the court, evev with a new vote to pass, would invent some reason why the law is not constitutional. And because it would be a state constitutional issue, there wouldn't be any opportunity for Federal review. They're also concerned that any other such action by the Walker Administration would be thrown out on specious grounds as well.

But your point about not having the votes may be true as well -- if this is a decisive defeat for Prosser, you may start seeing some R's turning into RINOs out of fear of the unions. Which would, frankly, suck.

58 posted on 04/05/2011 5:37:02 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: Jean S
Y'all can check the results here.
59 posted on 04/05/2011 5:37:02 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.conservativedna.com/)
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To: Jean S

If she wins, the Pubs should repeal the bill, write a new one, and pass it. They should take this out of the hands of the court.


60 posted on 04/05/2011 5:40:07 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: gorush
If you end up having to pay this bet, I will buy you a beer.

Or ten.

61 posted on 04/05/2011 5:40:20 PM PDT by brewcrew (Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid. --John Wayne)
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To: rabidralph

CLICK REFRESH

http://elections.todaystmj4.com/G8801.htm


62 posted on 04/05/2011 5:40:24 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: brewcrew

You’re on!


63 posted on 04/05/2011 5:41:16 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: mwl8787

I just got back from placing my vote


64 posted on 04/05/2011 5:41:28 PM PDT by mdel747
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To: Jean S

There’s still just under 1/2 hour left to vote, any WI conservatives who haven’t, for God’s sake, get out and vote!


65 posted on 04/05/2011 5:41:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Numbers Guy

“...you may start seeing some R’s turning into RINOs out of fear of the unions.”

I think those R’s in question should be more afraid of fiscal conservatives.


66 posted on 04/05/2011 5:42:05 PM PDT by Jaguarmike
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To: Numbers Guy

Correct. If Prosser loses, the Walker reforms will be voided by the Supreme Court. Period. This will be an exercise of raw power, and they will invent any ridiculous legal rationale they damn well please.

I cannot fathom why so many freepers are being naïve about this.
The national ramifications of a Prosser loss are horrendous.


67 posted on 04/05/2011 5:42:10 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: acw011

Hey that’s encouraging...low turnout may mean the standard SEIU “cigarettes for votes” campaign isn’t working too well.


68 posted on 04/05/2011 5:42:14 PM PDT by bigbob (u)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Beautiful! Thank you...


69 posted on 04/05/2011 5:42:51 PM PDT by GizzyGirl
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To: Balding_Eagle

They have the most bags of fake votes to put in in case Kloppenburger is losing.


70 posted on 04/05/2011 5:43:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Jean S

Hope this turns out well.... Will check in later tonight.


71 posted on 04/05/2011 5:44:12 PM PDT by Bud Krieger (Another President, another idiot....)
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To: mdel747

How was turnout, and are you in a liberal or conservative area?


72 posted on 04/05/2011 5:44:19 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: sgtyork

Milwaukee county turnout will be higher because of the county exec race. Suburbs are heavy conservative. Can easily negate the inner city. And then go and negate some of Madistan. Waukesha county needs to have heavy turnout.


73 posted on 04/05/2011 5:46:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

yes


74 posted on 04/05/2011 5:47:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Numbers Guy

If Kloppenburg wins, Wisconsin can kiss budgetary reform, concealed carry, and voter ID away. Moochers everywhere will run to the activist Supreme Court to have them all declared unconstitutional.


75 posted on 04/05/2011 5:47:36 PM PDT by brewcrew (Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid. --John Wayne)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Doesn’t matter lower judges will just delay cases as they control timetables for hearing them. That’s what Sumi is doing now.


76 posted on 04/05/2011 5:47:58 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: All
Kloppenberg put up these flyers all over saying she would be a sure vote against the bill:

Is that ethical?

She should have to recuse herself if she wins.


77 posted on 04/05/2011 5:49:38 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: mwl8787
I cannot fathom why so many freepers are being naïve about this. The national ramifications of a Prosser loss are horrendous.

I'm not being expressly naïve, but I am 2000 miles away, and not a WI citizen. I will watch the results with interest, and pray for the republic. I live in a right to work state. I admired Reagan's view of PATCO. Government unions? Socialist parasites. Fire them all.

78 posted on 04/05/2011 5:50:59 PM PDT by glock rocks (Donald Trump is Ross Perot in drag)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Thing is when this is law the state won’t take their union dues out of their paychecks anymore. It will be up to them whether they want to be in the union, or pay dues.

As most liberals and most teachers are cheap people, as exhibited by what they are bitching about, I would bet most will not pay union dues or even bother to be in the union anymore.

Which is why the unions are freaked by it.

Note this is only for public sector unions.


79 posted on 04/05/2011 5:51:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: brewcrew

I really hope our man wins too, but if not, I see a big silver lining.

Let the big union states continue to screw themselves with massive budget deficits and higher taxes. Companies from those states will move to places like Georgia, which has low taxes and is a right to work state.


80 posted on 04/05/2011 5:52:14 PM PDT by Jaguarmike
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To: mwl8787

Good points. If Prosser is defeated, it will embolden and encourage all the Left, including the petition drives underway now against Republican state Senators (a challenge to one has already been successful). In addition to the tangible effect on the balance of the supreme court, there is also the impact on the battle for hearts and minds, including the 2012 election. The last thing we need is for Wisconsin voters to start feeling remorse over last Novembers sweeping changes and have to give back the momentum that has been gained.


81 posted on 04/05/2011 5:52:44 PM PDT by bigbob (u)
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To: Jean S

my best wishes for Wisconsin and America....that would be the guy winning


82 posted on 04/05/2011 5:53:09 PM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now, and in the future)
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To: presently no screen name

Thank you. God be with Wisconsin. All the good work of the good people cannot be swept away by the thugs and parasites in this election.

Dear God, please see that evil does not triumph.


83 posted on 04/05/2011 5:53:53 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: gorush

...and if you win the bet, well, we might as well cash in all our chips and drink ourselves into oblivion.


84 posted on 04/05/2011 5:53:56 PM PDT by brewcrew (Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid. --John Wayne)
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To: 30Moves

They will just keep shooting it down in the courts.

The democrats are actively promoting voting for someone on the judicial branch to prevent the executive and legislative branches from functioning.

This will not be allowed to occur. We will have a revolt in this state before this happens. Actually we will probablt have judges removed from the bench before that.


85 posted on 04/05/2011 5:54:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: mwl8787
mostly lib farmers here with union guys working Hooper and for the towns around , i was #92 i think so i have my fingers crossed .
86 posted on 04/05/2011 5:54:38 PM PDT by mdel747
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To: brewcrew

See! Win-win.


87 posted on 04/05/2011 5:55:09 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Numbers Guy

I doubt that, I believe it will make the Republicans stick together more. I suppose it can go either way but so far from what I’ve seen I beleive it will keep them together.

Especially given the recall attempts going on.


88 posted on 04/05/2011 5:56:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

No, the dems will just bring it to Dane cty circuit court for another reason. They will just invent reasons and the liberal judge Sumi will allow it.


89 posted on 04/05/2011 5:57:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: glock rocks

I live in a right to work state and I have been on the edge of my seat all evening, waiting for a good outcome for the fine people in Wisconsin. I love Gov. Walker and am keeping him in my prayers. What an outstanding man and so brave, he needs prayers.


90 posted on 04/05/2011 5:58:24 PM PDT by DaltonNC
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Kloppenberg put up these flyers all over saying she would be a sure vote against the bill:

Is that ethical?

She should have to recuse herself if she wins.

Surely you jest! Do libturd activist judges EVER recuse themselves for any conflict of interest or any reason? Just look at the RAT bastard Judge Sumi, who should have recused herself on the union collective bargaining bill, when her son is a union official.

Dimturds & activist libturd judges NEVER follow the rules that they mandate for conservatives & Republicans. Unfortunately Repubs let them get away with it, pretty much without any exceptions. "It's time to move on" they say.

91 posted on 04/05/2011 6:00:01 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: sgtyork

Thanks for your work on this, Sarge! I’m surprised I only learned about this particular race today.

Prayers up!


92 posted on 04/05/2011 6:02:12 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’m in CA, but I recognize the importance of this race so I’m on pins and need;es here.

I’m hanging my hope on the fact that a lot of the traditional rat vote is unemployed and don’t value education/teachers. Blacks are heavily unemployed and don’t vote unless there’s some $jack in it for them or it’s one of their own running. Maybe they’ll stay home.

BTW, how’s the weather there? If it’s cold, it’s good for pubs. They’re more willing to make the effort in bad weather than lazy lefties are.


93 posted on 04/05/2011 6:03:12 PM PDT by ratsreek
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To: mwl8787
The collective wisdom, courtesy of the MSM and all the talkign heads, is that this is a big test for the GOP.. Well, it's even bigger for the Dems. They've gone all in..

I think Prosser wins, about 53-47. The union riots in the Capitol building got lots of publicity, but I think the majority of Wiconsin voters, who, lets not forget, only a few months ago elected Walker AND a GOP legislature, are disgusted with what happened, and can't wait to vote....

94 posted on 04/05/2011 6:03:55 PM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: rabidralph

Thanks. I make it 2 minutes ‘til launch.


95 posted on 04/05/2011 6:06:22 PM PDT by ratsreek
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To: Amagi
This is very important for the nation.

You're right, that's why this west-coaster is watching with interest.

96 posted on 04/05/2011 6:06:29 PM PDT by rockrr ("Remember PATCO!")
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yes. Most people are unaware that there are three separate lawsuits over this bill. The Republicans believe that this bill was passed legally and they know that even if they pass it again there will be another liberal judge to to attempt to overturn it.
And personally for these people, their lives were threatened and had to have police escorts to get to their jobs. The unions took over the Capital, it was so very ugly.


97 posted on 04/05/2011 6:07:00 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

If the good people do not win this one, it is all over for Wisconsin and ultimately the Nation. If the thugs win, it shows that there are more of them than they are of good people.


98 posted on 04/05/2011 6:07:38 PM PDT by sport
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Thanks. That’s easier than the other link.


99 posted on 04/05/2011 6:08:13 PM PDT by ratsreek
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Sarah, Sarah, Sarah...


100 posted on 04/05/2011 6:08:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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