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The Terrifying Brilliance of Islam
Citizen Warrior ^ | CITIZEN WARRIOR

Posted on 04/06/2011 3:08:41 PM PDT by ventanax5

HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED why millions of Muslim men are dedicated to killing Americans? Or why so many are willing to blow themselves up to kill Israelis? Or why they are so committed to blowing up random people in Bali, London, Madrid, etc.?

Islamic supremacists are doing this all over the world, attacking Westerners and their own fellow Muslims alike. Why?

Because of a doctrine. A doctrine is a collection of ideas. These could be customs, words, beliefs, etc. A religion is not a single idea; it is a collection of ideas. The collection of ideas that make up the religion of Islam makes Muslims behave and feel as they do.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: crushislam; fars; ggg; islam; islamicterrorism; islamofascism; jihad; koran; law; muslims; rop; sharia; trop; wot

1 posted on 04/06/2011 3:08:42 PM PDT by ventanax5
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To: ventanax5

Helpful resources at that linmk, too! Great post!


2 posted on 04/06/2011 3:24:39 PM PDT by MeganC (NO WAR FOR OIL! ........except when a Democrat's in charge.)
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To: ventanax5

Well, Satan is an angel of light. He decieves the nations.


3 posted on 04/06/2011 3:25:17 PM PDT by Rodm
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To: ventanax5

Excellent article!!!


4 posted on 04/06/2011 3:25:30 PM PDT by piytar (Godwin's rule is null and void. If you don't know what I mean, you aren't paying attention...)
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To: ventanax5

Kill’em first!


5 posted on 04/06/2011 3:28:44 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: ventanax5

The malware of ideologies.


6 posted on 04/06/2011 3:35:57 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: piytar
Pitiful article.

But then someone comes up with the idea that if you can persuade a non-believer to become a believer, you earn some sort of spiritual merit. You are saving souls, and your chances of getting into heaven are better.

If this author is referring to Christianity, he is showing that he doesn't know a thing about it.

Works do not save you; works are an expression of your faith. Nobody goes to heaven because of their deeds.

Realizing that we are all sinners and knowing that Jesus intervened and took our sins upon Himself to save us. Knowing that He loved us so much that He went to certain death.

That is the way; He said so Himself.

7 posted on 04/06/2011 3:42:12 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: ventanax5

It’s a religion of Jihad.


8 posted on 04/06/2011 3:59:15 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ventanax5

The realities of the ROP bkmk.


9 posted on 04/06/2011 4:03:30 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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10 posted on 04/06/2011 4:20:22 PM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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To: ventanax5

This religion causes the same suicide attacks that the Japanese had during WWII. In their religion, Shinto, the emperor was a God and the religious code required everyone die enforcing his will. Other elements leading them there were Bushido and Samari codes.


11 posted on 04/06/2011 4:26:45 PM PDT by veracious
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To: ventanax5
If you were going to deliberately design a collection of ideas with the purpose of making one that might eventually dominate the world — one that would eventually out-compete every other religion or political system — you would be hard-pressed to do better than Islam.

Declaring war against the whole world isn't brilliant at all. Being filled with self-loathing because they are in the shackles of a book that imprisons its' reader is folly. When America decides it has had enough and prepares to kick the crap out of yet another form of fascism, you will see how "brilliant" Islam is. The Nazis were far more formidible and they were stomped.

12 posted on 04/06/2011 4:30:25 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: ventanax5
Something only transmitted orally can change over time, but something written will be identical a thousand years from now, and with modern printing presses, can be reproduced in the millions, giving it an enormous advantage in spreading identical copies of the idea-collection.

That is actually quite wrong. In an oral tradition the student learns through repetition with a teacher. You don't become a teacher until you know not only the words but their deepest level of meaning so well that you can recite it in your sleep.

When a doctrine is written down people become lazy because they begin to assume it isn't necessary to put so much effort into learning it. It's written down so why bother when you can always go to the text. The text can be changed over time, especially when translated, and the meaning of words and phrases certainly do change over time even if the wording of the text doesn't.

13 posted on 04/06/2011 4:31:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: ventanax5; Nathan

Someone understands what we’re up against... great post, ventanax5


14 posted on 04/06/2011 4:36:10 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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To: ventanax5
Muslims test the waters to see what they can get away with. If we were resolved to completely destroy them, salt the earth, and send them from 700AD back to the Stone Age, that would happen.

The liberals in this country encourage them, but consider the fact that they won't be doing the fighting. Freedom loving Americans empowered by the 2nd amendment will smack down these "skilled" people who are "elite" soldiers when it comes down to killing women and children and the weak.

15 posted on 04/06/2011 4:40:16 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: ventanax5

Islam is a war plan.


16 posted on 04/06/2011 4:41:19 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

Well said. If only Islam would stand in one spot long enough for it to be blown to bits.


17 posted on 04/06/2011 5:07:33 PM PDT by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: ventanax5

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Yeah, a brilliant religion- for MEN.

The ‘ol pedo worked out quite a system for the benefit of the men, didn’t he?
This ‘religion’ is so easy to join; just say a prayer and you’re in for life!

The ‘ol lady pi$$es off? You can just back-hand her.
In fact, it’s okay for you to give her a good beating now and then just to keep her in line.
Why? Because it says it’s okay right there in the Koran, the holy book of the religion of peace- that’s why!

But not to worry, the bruises covering her body won’t show, because (ain’t this great!) a wife can never leave the house while showing one square inch of bare uncovered skin that’s not between her eyes and her chin. So if the old lady is still recovering from her last obedience lesson (as long as you don’t break any bones or smash her face in) she can still go out to shop for the family. (properly attired and with a proper male companion, of course.)
Cuts down on this shopping for clothes nonsense, too.

Oh, and here’s another reason to join the ‘ol pedo’s religion of peace. Bored with your wife? No problem! you can bring home a second, third or even a forth wife- and you don’t even have to ask for the ol battleaxe’s permission! You can bring home any little young sexpot you can snare. You’re a man! That’s all it takes.
Even if you’re fat, fifty or sixty and and pretty repugnant to the average female- no problem.
Just trade one of your daughters to your brother for one of his cute little nympets.
What a great deal for men! Under the rules of this glorious religion of peace, you can keep a fresh stock of young girls in your bed from now on- and nobody can say a word about it because the great profit Mohammed did it and encourages it. It’s right there in the holy book!

But what if the child brides object? Let ‘em. They have no say in the matter.
Scientists say all this inbreeding causes genetic problems, but then what do they know? The profit says it’s ok so don’t give it a second thought.
And say, if you like ‘em really young, nine years old is old enought. It was old enough for our glorious profit.
What if she objects to relations? No sweat! Beat her into submission.

Men, this is the best part; (you gotta love it) tired of any of your wives? Divorce ‘em. All you have to do is say ‘I divorce thee’. Done.
Kick her a$$ out. No lawyers, no paperwork. No alimony.
Her sorry a$$ is out on the street with a tin cup begging
for a living. This is a great lesson for other wives to keep ‘em in line.

Of course the holy book says that women are sinful creatures, but there’s an easy remedy for that; have their clitorises removed surgically when they are children.
(The ‘surgery’ is usually just performed with an ordinary razor or broken piece of glass, without anesthesia while the screaming girl is held down, but they get over it so don’t sweat it)
Anyway, this will keep little wifey from straying. What’s she get out of it? Nothing.

And, men, women being the sinful creatures they are, suppose you see one daring to show her lust provoking hair and and not wearing the proper burka? Bare meat. Advertising. Asking for it. There for the taking!
Go ahead.
She has to provide four witnesses that it was rape.
You’re home free. Just tell ‘em it was her idea.
A man’s testimony counts twice a woman’s, so you win! Every time!
What’s the penalty for her adultery?
The wanton b*tch is buried up to her shoulders and publically stoned to death.
That sure does keep rape complaints down.

What a great religion.

ALLAHU AKBAR!!!

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18 posted on 04/06/2011 5:08:21 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: jmacusa
Well said. If only Islam would stand in one spot long enough for it to be blown to bits.

This time there will not be any "Nation Rebuilding". Let them sit in the ashes and contemplate what happened. Repeat if necessary.

19 posted on 04/06/2011 5:21:28 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: He Rides A White Horse

“If this author is referring to Christianity, he is showing that he doesn’t know a thing about it.”

Um, I’m guessing you didn’t read the article? It’s a pretty decent analysis of Islam and why it spreads like a virus...


20 posted on 04/06/2011 5:25:48 PM PDT by piytar (Godwin's rule is null and void. If you don't know what I mean, you aren't paying attention...)
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To: patriot08
Put me on your ping list if you have one. Your post is one of the best summations I have seen..
21 posted on 04/06/2011 5:28:11 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: piytar

Oh, but I did. It’s a secular viewpoint if anything.


22 posted on 04/06/2011 5:31:54 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: ventanax5

http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_dennett_on_dangerous_memes.html


23 posted on 04/06/2011 5:34:34 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: piytar
I read every number of points. They are assumptive, in the sense that nobody will oppose them. Import that factor, and every single point is nullified.

Actually, under these circumstances, every point made will lead to their destruction.

24 posted on 04/06/2011 5:44:00 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: piytar
The points made neglect the idea that most people value their freedom, and don't want to be a slave.

Curiously, these people are foolish, as they have adopted a doctrine that enslaves themselves.

Nothing brilliant there; sheer stupidity.

25 posted on 04/06/2011 5:49:38 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: patriot08

Here the big surprise patriot08 - liberal elites looks down on a Christian pastor for being ‘backward’ but the same liberal elites give a pass to the following - that you’ve written so well...

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Under the rules of this glorious religion of peace, you can keep a fresh stock of young girls in your bed from now on- and nobody can say a word about it because the great profit Mohammed did it and encourages it. It’s right there in the holy book!

But what if the child brides object? Let ‘em. They have no say in the matter.
Scientists say all this inbreeding causes genetic problems, but then what do they know? The profit says it’s ok so don’t give it a second thought.
And say, if you like ‘em really young, nine years old is old enought. It was old enough for our glorious profit.
What if she objects to relations? No sweat! Beat her into submission.

Men, this is the best part; (you gotta love it) tired of any of your wives? Divorce ‘em. All you have to do is say ‘I divorce thee’. Done.
Kick her a$$ out. No lawyers, no paperwork. No alimony.
Her sorry a$$ is out on the street with a tin cup begging
for a living. This is a great lesson for other wives to keep ‘em in line.

Of course the holy book says that women are sinful creatures, but there’s an easy remedy for that; have their clitorises removed surgically when they are children.
(The ‘surgery’ is usually just performed with an ordinary razor or broken piece of glass, without anesthesia while the screaming girl is held down, but they get over it so don’t sweat it)
Anyway, this will keep little wifey from straying. What’s she get out of it? Nothing.

And, men, women being the sinful creatures they are, suppose you see one daring to show her lust provoking hair and and not wearing the proper burka? Bare meat. Advertising. Asking for it. There for the taking!
Go ahead.
She has to provide four witnesses that it was rape.
You’re home free. Just tell ‘em it was her idea.
A man’s testimony counts twice a woman’s, so you win! Every time!
What’s the penalty for her adultery?
The wanton b*tch is buried up to her shoulders and publically stoned to death.
That sure does keep rape complaints down.

What a great religion.


26 posted on 04/06/2011 8:01:05 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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To: MeganC

Except the pro-contraceptive pitch. This may make the individual successful, but ruinous for the orqanism (the body politics.) The population boom of the 18th Century was a boon for the industrial revolution. The population boom in Mexico after 1940 has been a boon for American employers who have been looking for workers. But but the decimation of the European-American and the African-American populations in the United States by the pill and by abortion , which created the need for Mexican workers, has caused a demographic revolution in this country, which probably will radically change the country in ways unforeseen in 1965.


27 posted on 04/06/2011 9:31:30 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: TigersEye

Totally right. Many rabbis could recite thousands of words from memory. I think it safe to assume that Jesus had memorized huge passages of scripture. Likewise, his disciples were trained to listen. Probably the variations in the gospels can be explained by the process of translation. Assuming, therefore, that Matthew was written in Hebrew or Aramaic, then it would be one step closer to the actual words of Jesus.


28 posted on 04/06/2011 9:39:36 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: ventanax5

As a Christian, I’ve always maintained that Islam is a devilish imitation of the Pharisaic Judaism that so opposed Jesus and the first generation Church.

Way before AD 630 the pagan/polytheistic religions were collapsing all over—at first voluntarily, and later with the aid of Roman culture—in the face of Christianity. The one religion which didn’t change though was the monotheistic law-based Judaism which opposed Jesus... Judaism though, then as now, was a small minority religion, without any aspirations to evangelism—and largely ethnically based.

Therefore, WHAM! Comes developed a new monotheistic law based religion, spread evangelically by military conquest/sharia law....without the essential ethnic basis like Judaism. It has its own holy books....which claim Judaism and Christianity totally corrupted the bible, and got everything wrong, which it finally set right... It fundamentally appeals to human pride and the predilection to warfare..... A cheap ripoff of Judaism (with a large measure of Arab superstitions/traditions, and a dash of Christian ideas thrown in the pot...)


29 posted on 04/06/2011 9:53:53 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

Of course I don’t mean to be offensive to Judaism—which I consider true, as far as it goes. As a Christian though, I do think, as the New Testament teaches, that they missed the Messiah, Jesus,...as of course, does Islam.


30 posted on 04/06/2011 10:09:00 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: He Rides A White Horse

Sorry, I don’t have a ping list.


31 posted on 04/06/2011 10:11:20 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: ventanax5
None other than Heinrich Himmler agreed

Heinrich Himmler's Remarkable Admiration For Islam: "It Promises Beautiful Women In Heaven"

32 posted on 04/06/2011 10:14:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Heinrich Himmler (1900-1945), Hitler's notorious "Reichsführer SS" (Federal leader of the SS) and chief of the German police, is one of the greatest mass murderers of the 20th century.

He was one of the greatest cowards as well. The sight of blood made him woozy. After witnessing executions by gun, he was concerned that his SS would be as sickened by it as he was. He was influential with the subsequent use of gas.

Less well known is the fact that the same Heinrich Himmler warmly embraced Islam or "Mohammedanism" as it was called then. He admired the religion of the Muslims because it promised that there will be "beautiful women in paradise for those who die in battle." (Many of today's suicide bombers – often sexually frustrated young males – have also deluded themselves into believing that 72 smiling "Huris" or virgin beauties are waiting for them in paradise.)

I have been pondering this idea for quite some time. Islam promises worldly rewards in the hereafter. Christianity promises things that are not of this world. Don't get me wrong guys. I am like any other man; God certainly knew what he was doing when he created women.

Since our existence in the coming kingdom will be far greater than the things of this world, I'm convinced that it will live up to the promise of true paradise.

Less well known is the fact that the same Heinrich Himmler warmly embraced Islam or "Mohammedanism" as it was called then. He admired the religion of the Muslims because it promised that there will be "beautiful women in paradise for those who die in battle."

There were battlions of Muslims wearing the SS emblem which is probably not well known.. Part of the decision was obviously the need for fresh inductees at that point in the war, yet there was that fact you stated. He truly believed they would be very reliable due to their religious fervor.

On March 21, 1945, Himmler wrote a very friendly letter to Kersten, thanking him for a recent visit:

I doubt that Himmler had any true friends. When he realized that Germany was going to lose, he secretly attempted to contact Jewish organizations, offering to arrange (behind the back of Hitler) the freedom of Jews for money. Treachery was not a unique occurence in the Third Reich, as Hitler himself arranged the murder of his 'friend' Ernst Roehm, a man so close to Hitler that he was on a first name basis. He could call him 'Adolph'. Hitler did this because he wanted the support of the military, who despised Roehm. When Hitler discovered what Himmler was doing, he forbade it. Himmler was skilled in the art of treachery; he got away with it because he knew he could say that he was arranging something that would benefit Germany. He was foolish however to think that his atrocities would be attenuated by releasing a token few Jews.

Kersten kept notes of everything Himmler told him. He was the only man whose "miraculous hands" could relieve Himmler's pain.

I have insuffient information to suggest that Himmler was a homosexual. It is common knowledge however, that homosexuality was practiced by many of its' leadership. Ernst Roehm was reportedly in bed with a man, when the SS carried out "The Night of The Long Knives".

The fact that Himmler did not hesitate to nearly exclusively confide in Kersten was not appreciated by other high ranking SS officers. It seems that Himmler was well aware of this.

Yes indeed. Himmler would accumulate dossiers on anybody that he thought was a threat. It wasn't a short list.

. It was through his efforts and personal influence on Himmler that 3500 Jews could be transferred from Nazi concentration camps to Sweden. And this was not the only thing Kersten did to save those who suffered under Nazi persecution. On December 12, 1945, the World Jewish Congress sent a letter to Kersten thanking him for his successful efforts to save the 3500 Jews as well as for his generous willingness to help whenever he could.

I covered that already; I will disagree with one point however. Himmler was issuing these orders; he was (like any schemer) interested in his own welfare. I will also say that I am unaware of any such letter of thanks. It seems to me that it would be hazardous to ones health to be discovered bearing such a letter, but that is an opinion.

"Mohammed knew that most people are terribly cowardly and stupid.

After reading the rest of the paragraph, one can easily see that Nazism and Islam share many of the same ideals and both believe that terrifying people is a virtue.

I think I have covered enough ground here; finish reading the rest of the article and you will find that Islam and fascism are truly bedfellows. The fact that the media can ignore these disturbing similarities is astonishing. From another viewpoint, however, it is not astonishing. Liberals utilize many of the same devices and plans.

33 posted on 04/07/2011 7:57:13 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: patriot08
Sorry, I don’t have a ping list.

No need to be sorry; that post was a direct hit.

34 posted on 04/07/2011 8:01:47 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: Fred Nerks

This is the best article I’ve ever seen on Islam - it confirms everything I’ve learned over the past 20 years...


35 posted on 04/07/2011 4:01:40 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

The Mufti of Jerusalem and Himmler - studying plans for the crematoruim at Auschwitz.

36 posted on 04/07/2011 4:12:20 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: GOPJ

After 9/11 I read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD written by CANON SELL - published in India in 1913. That told me all I needed to know about the filthy CULT known as MUHAMMADANISM.

http://www.muhammadanism.org/Canon_Sell/muhammad/life_muhammad.pdf


37 posted on 04/07/2011 4:29:28 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Yes indeed. It’s not a “photoshop” job either.


38 posted on 04/07/2011 5:05:58 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: patriot08


39 posted on 04/07/2011 5:12:08 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: SpaceBar

btt


40 posted on 04/08/2011 7:35:05 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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